Ban the Burqa?
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- bigtrick0
- what's wrong with spiderman?scarabin
- just saying, banning niqab due to "covering of face" argument means banning spiderman toobigtrick
- unless there are defences for special occasions, theatrics, etc...ribit
- oh ok, halloween is more important than someone's religion. got it.bigtrick
- no, it could be trivial stuff, but usually laws will have allowances for special occasions, actors..ribit
- the burka wearer would have to argue that defenceribit
- "halloween is more important than someone's religion. got it."
With that argument you can make up a religion to suit your needs.Peter - needs.Peter
- airey0
banning someone's choice of socia-religious wear = oppression.
- BusterBoy0
airey, please fuck off to your little hole, or wherever else it is that you crawled out of. Surely even you are not so blinkered to believe that my comment was nothing more than a throwaway line to illustrate a point and provoke a reaction...your "class-a fucking idiot" comment goes to prove that you are a closed minded cockhead and anyone who disagrees with your point of view must be a moron.
And you call me 'middle class white boy with insular view'...pfft...that's a laugh coming from you.
- ribit0
How about... burqas allowed but the men have to wear them on alternating days instead of the women? Or the right to wear what you like defended in muslim countries too.
- airey0
a well made bbc world service doco about the issue, featuring a woman who wears it even though her husband wasn't really for it.
- bigtrick0
and with the posting of the camel picture, i declare myself done with this thread, as i have said all i have wanted to say on the subject, and any tosser that goes on to defend the ban should look into their hearts and see the dirty little xenophobe living inside.
seeyall!
- dyspl0
too many good reason in both banning or allowing burqua to simply stand on 1 side and pretend it's the right thing to do IMO.
One thing tho, sacarabin, "muslims don't outlaw striped shirts and cigarettes so the french should shut the fuck up"
I would be curious to see what would happen to an average occidental girl walking in the street dessed like this
let say in pakistan?Not saying that's an excuse to ban it in our country, just your argument that is not valid.
- making laws removes the will of the subject. let the subject be stupid on their own if they want.scarabin
- ukit0
^Exactly. It's not as though Muslim countries don't make oppressive laws or anything.
Why do we get worked into a frenzy over a comparatively minor restriction in France?
- Amicus0
I'm far, far from a racist. I've got friends from varied backgrounds including christians, jews, moslems, hindus and buddhists.
I just think societies should be able to control their culture to some extent. Sure, embrace different faiths, foods and backgrounds, but we wouldn't tolerate stoning or honour killings in western countries and most conservative religious countries wouldn't accept our standards of dress or sexual and gender based freedoms.
- btw... I'm agnostic.... neither religious nor atheist.Amicus
- boobs0
OK. I've got the solution:
cover the face, but leave the vulva completely uncovered.
- neue75_bold0
I like living in Fitzory and all, but I'd welcome the burqa over half the absolutely ridiculous hipster outfits worn in hopes of ones own 'personal expression' any day... But to each his own... Amicus has made many good points here, and I agree with most of it, it's just hard to know where to draw the line in the sand in what rights the state has the power to either limit or completely remove, and I tend to think it lies in common sense.. fundamentally, I don't feel that it's up to the (young) western world to condemn long standing religious or cultural ideologies because it doesn't jive with what's 'right' as we've determined in first world nations.. of course stoning and honour killings are terrible and wrong, but according to a large majority of the worlds population, so is eating meat...
- but even young western world should have some say over community behaviour?ribit
- indeed...neue75_bold