Sticking with Flash
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- formed0
We'll just have to see how the competition does, as they will have Flash.
I am interested to see how the HP pad-thing does and how Dell's Streak does. I am praying they come to market with the functionality that is necessary to compete (unlike the iPhone's competition, first round, that looked pretty embarrassing imho, but this time they know what they are up against, nothing new on the iPad).
I wanna love Apple's devotion to great design, but without any functionality, it is just a fancy movie watcher (to me and my clients, anyway, and even then I can't watch the videos we make for clients as they are all Flash based when online, that ain't changing anytime soon!)
- ukit0
Walt: So you just woke up one morning and heard about Android?
Steve: Kinda.
Walt: So do you feel betrayed?
Steve: My sex life is pretty good. How's yours?
Kara: Don't ask.
- kpl0
"Steve Jobs controls many people's minds. No one was talking about getting rid of Flash 6 months ago. Jobs says something and motherfuckers toe the line."
Aral Balkan, noted Flash conference speaker and blogger bloke, called for Adobe to drop Flash Player in December. 5 mos ago, but ahead of the iPad announcement when Apple drew the line on the ground: http://aralbalkan.com/2911
- he's talking about in the context of building apps for the iphone, not in the web browser context.SteveJobs
- dasmeteor0
I hate Steve Jobs.
- gabe0
good points ukit. i think perhaps my biggest gripe is with people trying to kill a technology that is still the most appropriate solution for any number of scenarios (as opposed to pushing competing technologies to offer more so that we won't have to rely on things like Flash).
calling for the death of flash without a more sophisticated replacement is just...dumb.
- Hombre_Lobo0
me too dasmeteor...me too.
- dbloc0
just tried out cloudBrowse...it's actually works amazingly well.
- kpl0
HTML5 3d picture viewer (WebKit required):
http://www.satine.org/research/w…TiltViewer Flickr 3d (Flash):
http://www.simpleviewer.net/tilt…
- SteveJobs0
oooowwww, you rike frash arrec bodwin? you rike frash?
- sherm0
kind of getting sick of this fucking debate already. how about:
use it if u feel like, OR don't use it if u don't want to fucking use it because there are other options...
- SteveJobs0
yeah, i agree with sherm. i'm getting sick of this too. we've gone back and forth on this issue and debated every point and i'm really not sure who's trying to convince who of what any more.
for those who are anti-flash, are you trying to save the futures of those who have so much vested in the technology already to get them to 'see the light' so hopefully they're not made redundant any longer? do you really care to convince everyone that their plug-in technology is dated, slow, and a resource hog? is it important to remind everyone how apple game them their chance time and again?
for the pro-flash folks, your career's are probably safe, but it wouldn't hurt to learn some html5 for that one glorious day when *all* browsers support it. and let's just get over the fact that apple won't let anyone create apps with anything other than xcode and cocoa. it's their choice to make and their obviously content with it. the language is simple enough to pick up. yeah, you're gonna spend a couple months porting something that you should have just been able to cross-compile, but fuck it - it's jobs security and you've learned a new skillset.
it's just my opinion, but there's still a lot to be seen still from these big corporations and how their decision will sway the industry. in spite of the impressive ipad sales reported (2 million in the last two months i think?) i think it's too early to tell what impact jobs' decision will have on flash, so let's just sit back and chill the fuck out, ok?
- yea mofos act like ipads and iphones etc are dictating whats applicable for the rest of the web. so unilateral...sherm
- ukit0
- instrmntl0
I'm a mac person. Macbook, iPhone, and G5. I'll always love macs. That being said, they don't run as good as pcs. I had a sony cellphone 3 years ago that took 2mb photos with a flash. iPhones still dont have a flash. They have weaker technology to balance their slimmer, modern aesthetic. While I appreciate their design, their products suck. Flash doesn't work well on iPhones and iPads because theyre both a piece of shit, technology wise.
- Timmiller0
iPhone is last year, send in the droids!
- DrBombay0
It is funny to me that people are so quick to want to kill flash. Seems like it is mostly fanboys though.
- Jobs said no flash, so they must be against it too.DrBombay
- mostly people that don't use flash I'd say.dbloc
- plenty of good reasons to kill flash. ignoring them cos you don't like them doesn't mean it's not there.kpl
- specifically, flash player.kpl
- < fanboyhotroddy
- Something tells me you don't know as3...DrBombay
- twokids0
Adobe just needs to get flash working well on mobile devices. Apple will cave if they do that.