Sticking with Flash
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- dbloc
Sources said several large media companies, including Time Warner and NBC Universal, told Apple they won't retool their extensive video libraries to accommodate the iPad, arguing that such a reformatting would be expensive and not worth it because Flash dominates the Web.
- Stugoo0
As much as I hate to admit it... it will probably just end up that they will back track and do it anyway
- No they won't. You're talking about worldwide retooling.FredMcWoozy
- Miguex0
As much as I hate to admit it... it will probably just end up that they will back track and fix the iPad.
(hides under table)
- The tyrant shall never admit defeat... Compromise and die...ideaist
- over his dead body?kingsteven
- jhey0
"Flash comes to the iPhone ... sort of"
http://content.usatoday.com/comm…- 150,000 downloads so far.
The users have spokenMiguex - flash developers have spokenPIZZA
- "He plans on bringing out a paid App at $9.99 monthly." ummm to view flash on my phone. nolvl_13
- 150,000 != total population. Sorry.dMullins
- 40 million iphone os devices. 150,00 downloads is about 0.3%kpl
- its only 1 week though, that is HUGE, sorryMiguex
- can't test it on the French AppStore.... shhhiiiiittJuniorSenior
- 150,000 downloads so far.
- canuck0
Makes sense. Bravo!
- ukit0
Has anyone actually tried Flash on a mobile device?
http://www.mobilecrunch.com/2010…
It looks like it's nice for games and stuff like that, but loading elements on a typical web page seems like it totally kills the performance. So even if you have Flash it seems like you would want to browse with it turned off, and enable it only as needed.
- We had the same issue with regular desktop computers 10 years ago, and look how that changed just a few later. Flash runs fine on desktops.fyoucher1
- Hardware will get better quickly. More than enough to allow Flash on a mobile device. It may be just a matter of a couple of years or even less.fyoucher1
- I guess, still it kind of shows Jobs wasn't lying doesn't it? Not to mention this is in 10.1, which didn't even have a release date when they were rolling out the iPhone and iPadukit
- when they were rolling out the iPhone and iPadukit
- html5 will get better faster than flash will.kpl
- html5 is just a buzz worddbloc
- HTML5 will have the same progress Flash did. Just wait until people start going animation crazy with jquery.fyoucher1
- Except Flash is 15 years ahead.fyoucher1
- why use crappy software with better hardware when you can use better software with better hardware?kpl
- Don't get me wrong. I'm all for HTML5. Just not for abandoning a very useful technology such as Flash.fyoucher1
- Apple + Google + Microsoft competing against each other > Adobe's rather slow effortskpl
- 15 years of cruft more like it.kpl
- Anything Flash9.0 AS2.0 or lower seems to run fine on my Hero and has done since the day I got it.orrinward
- How the hell am I supposed to distinguish between AS2 and AS3 while browsing?;)ukit
- HTML5 has it's downsides too. It's a fairly brand new spec. I wouldn't go as far to say it's "great software" just yet.fyoucher1
- BTW, they should put scroll bars in these note areas or make them as tall as the postfyoucher1
- 10.1 for Android is still beta. Also the Android version has a click to Flash option built in.munch
- Sorry, kpl, Flash is better software than an unfinished HTML5 spec.CyBrain
- html5 is planned to be the standard in 2021. 20FUCKING21!instrmntl
- technicalities. "html5" is already kicking flash's ass in interpreted code (as3 or js) execution speed.kpl
- Maybe you need to see this.
http://www.youtube.c…CyBrain
- erikjonsson0
zzz
- CyBrain0
I have Cloud Browse and was tempted to post it here, but was paranoid that if it got too popular Apple would kill it. I don't know what amazes me more, that Apple approved it or that it isn't well known yet.
I would pay $10 gladly if the paid version was a good browser (aside from playing Flash). The free version can't bookmark, doesn't even remember what windows you had open and doesn't support any Firefox add-ons. I know add-ons is asking a lot, but I would like some way to bookmark and auto-fill forms.
- CyBrain0
I found that some Flash runs ok, some doesn't, but I can't imagine someone thinking they'd rather see a blue plug-in icon instead of slow Flash. Also, if you're targeting phones, I'm sure you could go easy on the processor intensive stuff and get something that would play well on the phone.
- munch0
Flash is currently the only way to offer browser compatibility for these networks. If they moved to HTML5 then what video format would they use? H.264 is not supported by Firefox and I'm not sure it is in current versions of IE either. Also how would they protect the videos and integrate interactive advertising?
- ukit0
Naw, I think it's more of a cost issue for them. The only thing they would need to support would be Flash on desktop vs HTML5 on mobile (and YouTube, Vimeo and most other big video sites do that with no problem). They just don't want to spend the funds on reencoding the video. Or there might even be an alliance with HP or other Apple competitors, although that's just speculation on my part.
- you forgot that generally media companies are so fearful that they can't make any logical decisions on digital media at all.kpl
- Yeah, I wouldn't exactly take Time Warner's decisions as the sign of where things are heading.ukit
- Remind me, does AOL still own them or do they own AOL or how did that whole thing shake out?:)ukit
- aol spun out. Or is it Aol. spun out?kpl
- dbloc0
just tried out cloudBrowse...it's actually works amazingly well.
- SteveJobs0
oooowwww, you rike frash arrec bodwin? you rike frash?
- DrBombay0
It is funny to me that people are so quick to want to kill flash. Seems like it is mostly fanboys though.
- Jobs said no flash, so they must be against it too.DrBombay
- mostly people that don't use flash I'd say.dbloc
- plenty of good reasons to kill flash. ignoring them cos you don't like them doesn't mean it's not there.kpl
- specifically, flash player.kpl
- < fanboyhotroddy
- Something tells me you don't know as3...DrBombay
- twokids0
Adobe just needs to get flash working well on mobile devices. Apple will cave if they do that.
- jayoh0
Flash lost most of it's appeal to me when they brought out ActionScript 3. It suddenly became a developers app, not the designers app they originally created and drew me to use it.
That and with all the web technologies that are around now that were not when I started to use Flash. Most Flash sites I see could be done better with HTML, CSS and some JQuery / AJAX stuff.
Saying that, there are some incredible Flash sites, but they are in the minority...and becoming somewhat inaccessible :)- i don't see a reason to get rid of it here. not that that's the point you were trying to make.SteveJobs
- If you don't like Flash/AS3 because it's a developers platform, you can't defend JQery/AJAX, etc.CyBrain
- yep, good point cybrain,
most of thekill flash crowd, aren't dev, I would even dare to say they aren't even designersgeorgesIII - agree, i'm a fan of the flash aesthetic - mostly IDE/ timeline.kingsteven
- Adobe should introduce a free/ lite version of the IDE which publishes swfs with runtime processor limitationskingsteven
- get flash content back on forums/ cash in on the millennial content creators.kingsteven
- it's mostly nielson's fault.kingsteven
- satan0
I'm sticking with flash
and I don't care about your ash
- utopian0
Sup.