Client Project Cancellation
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- autoflavour0
salty balls to her, ask her for more money
- whatthefunk0
luckyorphan - when I state taking partial responsibility for the project going south I say it in response to getting sucked into the typical pitfalls of working with an inexperienced client. After looking at all the emails I think I put some unreasonable pressure on myself when considering the timeline. I cannot force a client to draft a sitemap and when you see a client dragging his/her feet sometimes you get sucked into that abyss - she didn't seem uber eager to hustle this project through so I too took my time.
The emails support the classic cause and effect of a large project with lengthy rounds of approval - I should have pushed it harder but I certainly didn't neglect or abandon the project at any point.
- whatthefunk0
*bump
So I received a letter from an attorney today proposing that I return the deposit, not post the work on my website, and provide written assurance that I will not use their work for any other commercial purpose.
This doesn't sit well with me - I work for 6 months producing a sitemap, wireframes, 3 design comps, then a working (jpeg/imagemap) website and they expect me to return all monies and pretend nothing ever happened? Looking at the clients current website I cannot find an update later than May of 2009 (current site is blog style) and the letter claims "the client has lost a season's worth of holiday business and incurred substantial internal costs in trying to see this project through.
Going through the emails I have evidence that it took the client 3 months to finalize the sitemap after they approve a design direction and I provide a working comp. Ugh, need to sleep, will consult an attorney in the morning I suppose. Happy effen Monday!
- airey0
get legal advice for fucks sake. stop asking for help from a forum of douchenozzles with more opinions than facts. it all depends on local laws, what evidence you have and the balls your solicitor has.
- and good luck!airey
- no shit sherlock - sorry for posting something business related, should have added tits somewhere
whatthefunk - it's not business related when it's as fucked as you've described. it's comedy. douchebag.airey
- Josev0
They're trying to scare you. Have your attorney respond. I cant see where she has any standing here given that she has an existing website. What a load of bullshit.
- dibec0
seriously whatthefunk ... if there is an attorney all ready assigned, you need to fork over and get your own attorney. If you feel you are righteous, go defend yourself. There is no amicable solution at this point and the game has escalated. Posting in QBN will not solve anything except perhaps open you to further litigation as you have admitted some guilt. Words can be twisted and contorted to show advantage.
I am sorry to point it out this way ... they ain't fucking around and you need to take this seriously.
if you can get someone like this, you will be golden. good luck
- Josev0
I think he was giving us an update, not expecting answers. I'd like to find out how this goes and think it would be good for others here to hear about this experience.
- mydo0
god bless america
- ********0
Seems like you took way too long to complete the work, miscommunicated and more. In short, you're a moron. Better luck next time.
- < not this.cannonball1978
- < yes, this is bollocks.airey
- < nopecannonball1978
- < i mean yep. sorry thought you dared to contradict mecannonball1978
- yet he probably still has his houseJosev
- cannonball19780
1) She obtained your services and had you work on the project. Work or no work, she owes you for your time.
2) You have it in your contract stating that if she cancels the project you are entitled to the deposit. This happened.
3) When you go to court, and your case is sound, you win, and then the other party pays for your legal fees. Make this known to her.
- 4) Stop being Mr. Friendly designer. The relationship is over. Squeeze her dry and move on.cannonball1978
- that's where I am - we're not speaking anymore, it's all matter of fact negotiating nowwhatthefunk
- mydo0
sounds like she's playing games. send her an invoice for the total contract amount + opportunity loss + fees + delay fees. tell her if she doesn't pay within 4 days she'll incur a penalty, then 10% daily accumulative on the outstanding.
OR.... and this is my best advice. go and see her personally. face to face. i guarantee this is the best option.
- < this too. send the invoice so its all in writing. and no more talking over the phone.cannonball1978
- Flanels050
Aw thats the worst. That happened to me once, just gota be careful with who you get involved with... and learn their cycle.
- ********0
It's a proposal, as in propose high, settle low scenario. The lawyers are in the game now, circle you wagons, no more verbal communication, send a nice "thanks for the letter" and advise you are currently consulting legal counsel to formulate your response. After that, get your checkbook out. Best of luck!
- whatthefunk0
Bumpdate -
I AM STILL GOING BACK AND FORTH WITH THE CLIENT'S ATTORNEY REGARDING THIS PROJECT. FTW!!!
I never hired an attorney for this issue and simply stuck to my guns responding to about 12 emails over the last 6 months. We are now going back and forth about me removing this project from my portfolio and I consistently tell them that as a work for hire contractor I own the authorship credit rights to the project and will not remove it from my site unless they'd like to pay me to do so.
I've offered to send them the final PSD file of the project a million times and they've yet to respond. It's been over a month since I've heard from their attorney - at the start all of the attorney communication demanded a response within 3-5 days, now the emails come around every 3 weeks, and I haven't heard back for over a month.
- FTW? Did you collect all of the $$$ that your contract states that she owes you?fyoucher1
- If not, then not FTW unfortunately ;(fyoucher1
- Oh I have the deposit $, nothing more + I will only hand over 50% of projectwhatthefunk
