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- HijoDMaite-11
Lovers of this thread, congratulations. You're millennial Bernie Bro did it.
At least she isn't hiding her true ideology. She is 28 and a member of the Democratic Socialists of America.
So basically my University TA, in love with Karl Marx, that has never held a real job just won a seat in congress. Socialists make me fucking sick!
- nice poster design tho.HijoDMaite
- ya, posters are nice. socialist have always had better design sense.Gnash
- (aside from one obvious exception, of course)Gnash
- Seems like a lot of people in the U.S. are adopting this label of being socialist but then when you ask what they believe it's just a slightly more left-wingyuekit
- version of the Democrats (who they disparagingly refer to as "liberals").yuekit
- This woman would bankrupt the country. I wonder how many Dem votes she would actually get if she ran for a major political office.HijoDMaite
- she'd do well in venezuelaBustySaintClaire
- +1 yuekit, it's like when people on here describe US MSM as left-wing. Fucking lol. it really isn't.fadein11
- Aside from calling herself that, what does she advocate for that's so extreme though?yuekit
- nothing extreme at all, but it looks that way when things have swung so far to the right. similar in UK.fadein11
- looks that way to some I should say.fadein11
- Seeing as how there's a 3x remarried, 6x filed for bankruptcy, real estate con man and tv celeb in office whom has never held a real 'job' as potuskona
- we can obviously do far, far worse than her. taking a page from trumptards... 'give her a chance'kona
- :)fadein11
- "an economy run by the workers or the state." what could go wrong?Gnash
- Your country thought Obama was a Marxist.i_monk
- Her commercial was, hands down, the best political ad I've ever seen... seriously. she trounced a Democrat.robotron3k
- woodMaaku
- Why do you have such an emotional response to socialists? Have you ever lived is a country governed by a left-wing democratic party?dmay
- This is good news, the left is finally fighting back.zarkonite
- ^ true that. better that a republican winningGnash
- ^ yep, with a core focus on people actually having power and stake over their economic and social wellnesswhatthefunk
- @dmay I assume what you are baiting me to debate why the Nordic model can’t work in the US correct?HijoDMaite
- No, I want to understand why does it makes you sickdmay
- I live in a country with a left-wing minority government, supported by a communist party and a hard left partydmay
- You aren’t actually talking about the long lists of countries that have tried Socialism and failed right?HijoDMaite
- And it's not a ditactorship...dmay
- No, it's Portugal, a country in Europe, much poorer than the US, but with a much better healthcare systemdmay
- And we had a Dictator, supported by the US, and it was anti-communismdmay
- And after that we had right-wing, left-wing, coalition governments.dmay
- "Socialists make me fucking sick!"
lol this place is full of petty, reactionary, cunts.face_melter - Bad ass.sea_sea
- Well I’m at work so won’t write a book. But for starters I believe in individual rights not rights of the community.HijoDMaite
- Well I’m at work so won’t write a book. But for starters I believe in individual rights not rights of the community.HijoDMaite
- I believe in freedom of expression towards anything including the govt. freedom of commerce, open markets,HijoDMaite
- Basically if you remove racism and greed, I don’t see how anyone doesn’t welcome Capitalism.HijoDMaite
- I think critics of Capitalism will try to convince you that racism and greed are basic human traits and we need more government to deter that. I disagree.HijoDMaite
- If you study basic comparative politics you will learn that more government = more corruption.HijoDMaite
- (racism and greed also exist in socialism)Gnash
- Charity is what I believe in, not forced redistribution of capital.HijoDMaite
- those big corps and CEO's all so charitable aren't they?fadein11
- Yes fadein the US still #1 in individual charity and philanthropy around the world last time I checked.HijoDMaite
- yet still cannot provide a decent healthcare system for it's citizens and poverty at an all time high. Some provisions shouldn't be about charitable donationsfadein11
- "around the world" I get your concerns though, but a base level of care for a nations citizens (especially the richest nation on Earth) should surely be a givenfadein11
- The current system isn't working so perhaps try something new? But worry not your image of socialism would never happen in the US.fadein11
- I’ve always thought there is a healthy debate for universal healthcare. I never understood the right’s adamant opposition to it. I assume it’s a fear of..HijoDMaite
- Becoming “more socialist”. I know that the level of healthcare, while it is the best in this nation it isn’t available to all.HijoDMaite
- "poverty at an all time high" - clearly jibberish before my QBN nemesisseses get on my case. But at ridiculously high rates. Trying to find a good piece i readfadein11
- the other day.fadein11
- I don’t know what the AMA and individual doctor’s views are on this topic. But I can bet what the Insurance companies view is.HijoDMaite
- While poverty may be an issue in this country, the safety net is the best model in existence. Other countries poverty vs. American poverty.HijoDMaite
- I prefer the mix of 2 systems. With out socialist, There wouldn't be a safety net, 40 hours limit, 5 days work week.pango
- While the capitalism promotes progress, socialist protects people. Why not both? It doesn't have to be one or the other.pango
- the mix of 2 systems can work v.well for sure, and does now.fadein11
- elsewhere*fadein11
- I don't think anyone would argue with fairer distribution of wealth and the reversal of neo-liberal Reagonomics. That is the root cause of why people like Trumpfadein11
- get elected. The relentless destruction of the Middle Class etc.fadein11
- Name a country where socialism failed that wasn't overthrown by or embargoed by the US.i_monk
- And let's see some data supporting your claims about the American safety net vs that of Canada or Scandinavia or elsewhere.i_monk
- Ok I’ll get back to youHijoDMaite
- "Socialism is a range of economic and social systems characterized by social ownership and democratic control of the means of production"Gnash
- Incorporating social services does not make a country socialist.Gnash
- there's good and bad ideas in all the "isms". small minds seems to think you have to pick only one and fight to the death.inteliboy
- Didn't a version of Socialism already happen under Roosevelt? One that actually improved peoples living standards.PhanLo
- the problem in debating the merits of one ism over another is in agreeing with what that ism is in the first place.Gnash
- every argument is countered with either, 'that wasn't "true" xxxism, or some outside forces wouldn't let it happen.Gnash
- any 'ism' that survives needs to do it in the real world, else it's just a good story to read.Gnash
- The No True Scotsman Fallacyi_monk
- How about the “what-about-ism” arguments?HijoDMaite
- Perhaps it'd be easier to start with naming a socialist country that has thrived.Gnash
- China? That country has its (many) issues but definitely an economic power house. Thrived in what way?pango
- Also it's not entirely a socialist country. Sticking to any particular ism without any practical reason, can get toxic. Like nationalism.pango
- "what about ism" is mainly to distract and de-rail. Just gotta ask your self or the person who brought up the example. Is that example relevant?pango
- Boodocpoz
- She hot tho.pango
- yass, she is.Gnash
- Better looking than Hugo Chavez.hotroddy
- Better looking than trump as wellpango
- neverscared3
Oxfam predicts first trillionaire within a decade
- we did it .. .a trillionaire... hip hip hurray..neverscared
- If there's a gofundme I can donate a bit of money to help them get there, post the link.PhanLo
- Trillion is the new billion.NBQ00
- Yes but someone will be employed to bleach their sheriff's badge, so it's a good thing.MrT
- utopian6
Many of today's unhealthy foods were brought to you by Big Tobacco.
For decades, tobacco companies hooked people on cigarettes by making their products more addictive. Now, a new study suggests that tobacco companies may have used a similar strategy to hook people on processed foods.
In the 1980s, tobacco giants Philip Morris and R.J. Reynolds acquired the major food companies Kraft, General Foods and Nabisco, allowing tobacco firms to dominate America's food supply and reap billions in sales from popular brands such as Oreo cookies, Kraft Macaroni & Cheese and Lunchables.
- we really try to stay away from any processed fooddoesnotexist
- utopian3
- Give a man a $1 and he can use a launderette. Give a man a launderette and he can wash everyone’s dirty knickers.shapesalad
- Give a man a man and he can man a man.palimpsest
- Give a bank a man and he can be the only teller on staff for the dayfuturefood
- A man with turntable might be Rob da Bank.MrT
- i_monk1
The Mandalorian has gone downhill with each season.
- Shinier with each episode,
the armor becomes.sted - Haha, wrong thread.i_monk
- They'll keep it going til season 200, probably the right thread :-)PhanLo
- that armor will be so shiny in season 200 the sun is going to seek shade.sted
- lolYakuZoku
- This shit has season 3? I barely finished the first one. Fuck that.crazyprick
- kind of is in the right thread. Disney's greed fucked Star Wars.MrT
- Shinier with each episode,
- shapesalad3
- Credit Sussie not on there but would be biggest if it was.shapesalad
- Too Big to Fail, LOLutopian
- Capitalism doesn't work. Socialist/Communist economics have been condemned for less than this.i_monk
- Two of these banks had more money than Venezuela's entire GDP.i_monk
- You mean assets. Banks hold very very little actual money. This is why they actually fail like we've seen these weeks.grafician
- shapesalad1
The Swiss banking crisis has come about because at the call of USA they seized Russian deposits at the bank. Ending trust. 100s of wealthy Chinese etc pulled their money out. Compounded by the banks management vying risky assets a few years ago and negative yielding bonds.
Which bank is 100% trustable? The one you don’t have to trust at all, born in the ashes of the last financial crisis: Bitcoin.
- Thanks but I'm waiting for grafician's expert opinion on economics and the banking industry.NBQ00
- this.robthelad
- or something real, like goldformed
- stay in cash and 1Y treasuriesgrafician
- anything else is gambling at this pointgrafician
- The snow nazis fucking things up again.PhanLo
- I find it funny how they blaming crypto and crypto VC's for it all.... perfect scapegoatinteliboy
- Because it's crypto's fault mate :)
If you deposit $10 to a bank, use it to buy crypto, crypto goes to 899303% up and you withdraw all of a sudden $5.6M...grafician - < also you're wrong, it's was just a liquidity problem turned to solvency problems
Read on, it was Thiel who sparked the fire
also fuck bitcongrafician - < also weren't you fired from a crypto firm? :)))
and now you're back on the crypto wagon?!
oh boygrafician
- OBBTKN0
Son of a b****
- Hell by designPhanLo
- Guess she opted out of short and long term disability insurance. Not a good idea since it’s so cheapmonospaced
- https://i.imgflip.co…drgs
- That's what happens when make bad life choices.palimpsest
- mono punching down again. yeah, it's her fault for falling ill rather than decrying a system built entirely for profit and not for helping those in need.face_melter
- Bitch had it coming!palimpsest
- Just-World Fallacy is at the heart of capitalist realism, as demonstrated by mono.i_monk
- definitely the system to blame here, even the best insurance will bankrupt a middle class family in the case of long time care. no discount for volume.imbecile
- utopian5
CVS Sued Over Use of Customer Donations.
Yup.... the same good old Yankee Doodle Dandy American corporation that just was recently found guilty and responsible for role in opioid crisis in America.
https://www.fastcompany.com/9082…
Gawd Bless Murica and all the Hotknobby's!
- loot and burn your local CVS » BLM style. Let's see who steps up to replace it.hotroddy
- Waving your racist flag again. Keep that wrist strong bitchmonospaced
- being called a racist is better than defending a corrupt organization that swindled $80 million. At least CVS donated the $10 mill to a good cause.hotroddy
- 'donated' may not be the right word but ADA received the 10 million. The head of BLM bought herself 6million home and evaded tax. How many were helped?hotroddy
- profiting in the name of victimhood is the lowest scum there is. Just like Castro and Chavez. And defending it is not too far behind.hotroddy
- You are not capable of talking about shit without falling back on some nonsense about South American governments are you. Derp.monospaced
- Fucking moron. Did you see me defending anyone. No. You imagined it. I didn’t imagine your racism which you are CLEARLY OKAY WITHmonospaced
- racism is all imagined. being a perpetual victim is a state of mind. that's why it goes so well with socialism.hotroddy
- it goes so well w it by promising 'equity' and delivering corruption.hotroddy
- utopian6
How America's opioid industry operated like a drug cartel.
It's estimated that more than 107,000 people in the United States died due to opioid overdoses in 2021. Washington Post journalist Scott Higham notes it's "the equivalent of a 737 Boeing crashing and burning and killing everybody on board every single day."
In the new book, American Cartel, Higham and co-author Sari Horwitz make the case that the pharmaceutical industry operated like a drug cartel, with manufacturers at the top; wholesalers in the middle; and pharmacies at the level of "street dealers." What's more, Higham says, the companies collaborated with each other — and with lawyers and lobbyists — to create legislation that protected their industry, even as they competed for market share.
"Most people think it's the political parties that run the show or it's the White House that runs the show, but it really is the companies that run the show," Higham says. "People were dying by the thousands while these companies were lobbying members of Congress ... to pass legislation and to lobby members of the Department of Justice and try to slow down the DEA enforcement efforts."
- Damn. I had no idea about those numbers. Fucking horrible. Worse than a cartel.formed
- utopian2
The top 1% owned a record 32.3% of the nation's wealth as of
the end of 2021, data shows. The share of wealth held by the
bottom 90% of Americans, likewise, has declined slightly since
before the pandemic, from 30.5% to 30.2%.- Wiiinnniiiiiing!PhanLo
- news flash - they're also the first ones to lose all THIS YEAR. have you seen what the markets have done in last year, or is your head always up your arse?hotroddy
- How it's always been and how it'll always be. More invested = more susceptible to markets.formed
- oh yes hotroddy, won't someone shed a tear for those poor, poor billionaires. you knob-end.BuddhaHat
- I just don't get the qbn resentmenthotroddy
- that's because all the boot polish has clogged your brain.face_melter
- spoken like someone who doodles–dallies in acrylic paints all day long.hotroddy
- mort_5
- Thanks, Elon.palimpsest
- Not all debt, unfortunately.formed
- utopian3
How AT&T helped build far-right One America News
One America News, the far-right network whose fortunes and viewership rose amid the triumph and tumult of the Trump administration, has flourished with support from a surprising source: AT&T Inc, the world's largest communications company.
A Reuters review of court records shows the role AT&T played in creating and funding OAN, a network that continues to spread conspiracy theories about the 2020 election and the COVID-19 pandemic.
OAN founder and chief executive Robert Herring Sr has testified that the inspiration to launch OAN in 2013 came from AT&T executives.
- Already one of the most hated corporations in America, so this shouldn't be surprising, but it still kinda is. It's diabolical how far these ppl will go.BuddhaHat
- < It's almost like a ministry of propaganda under a communist government.Morning_star
- Great. And I was already hating owning their stock. Nothing can be worse than Facebook, though.formed
- I'm switching providers this week.utopian
- grafician4
"Today, ProPublica is launching the first in a series of stories based on the private tax data of some of our nation’s richest citizens. We obtained the information from an anonymous source who provided us with large amounts of information on the ultrawealthy, everything from the taxes they paid to the income they reported to the profits from their stock trades.
In the coming months, we plan to use this material to explore how the nation’s wealthiest people — roughly the .001% — exploit the structure of our tax code to avoid the tax burdens borne by ordinary citizens."
- this could get ugly real quick...grafician
- It's how the rich get richer and the poor get poorer.utopian
- ^ it will if there's not something down about wealth distribution. Sad that people bitch about how we can't afford education or healthcare, butformed
- they're fine with the wealthiest paying next to nothing (so much for the 'hey, don't tax them, they pay the most taxes' crap)formed
- actually they don't pay income taxes because they don't have a salary?
they own assets that appreciate in value, so it's not their fault, but the Govsgrafician
