Global Warming
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- lowimpakt0
"those who will die if the global tax become law??"
what global tax law and how does it kill people?
- deathboy-1
oh and i saw your comments now scarabin.
adaptation and evolution and progess isnt created through policies. policies distort natural incentives of growth. policy can help but the path to hell is paved with good intentions and politcians prefer to push good inentions instead of reason these days. Most are unsound without much research. Their good intentions are smokescreen to promote their own self interests. They probably believe the good intentions will work out. But its so much easyier to believe a sweet lie than bitter reality.
And i not rather die than worry about environment. I think my views support a more natural take than a few cronie capitalist/politicans 1% saying they have the best of intentions that also serve their interests. I personally take the time to lower my impact because i care. The ones that are self serving in my natural environment. It just the right thing to do. Hell i dont plan on having any kids how much do i save there for global impact? Not to say other shouldnt, its up to them. But adds to a hypocritical viewpoint of the ones that believe strongly in conservation and changes in policies based environment control.
Its just a lot of bullshit and peopel playing tug of war to serve their own self interests and say its for the greater good. Once you accept the nature that stopping climate change or controlling it is out of the question its far easier to see the motives behind it.
- ukit0
Pinning your anti-global warming argument on whether temperatures are going up or not isn't a very good one when you look over the past 100 years.
Or to take a longer view:
So this is the point where you shift arguments and say, well yea sure, but how do we know it's because of humans, it could just as well be because of energy from the sun/ natural cyclical change/ Al Gore's evil plan to dominate the Earth/ some other random untested theory.
But it seems like a hell of a coincidence that that spike happened over the same period that humans started burning fuel, building factories, driving cars etc.
- bliznutty0
Scientists Rebut Claim That Man Causes Climate Change
As the world focused on President Barack Obama winning the Nobel Peace Prize on Friday, a small group of determined scientists gathered in a Senate office building to present evidence backing their claim that climate change is caused not by man but by nature, and that carbon dioxide is not a pollutant but the hope for a greener planet.
“Nature, not human activity rules the planet,” said Fred Singer, an atmospheric and space physicist and research professor at George Mason University and professor emeritus of environmental science at the University of Virginia. “And once you’ve decided that on the basis of evidence, then everything else falls into place.”
- these people are paid industry shills. they're not presenting an scientific argument they're presenting misinformation.eieio
- how the fuck do you know man? show me the proofbliznutty
- I just read the article, they're being scientific its just getting together and saying what the industry people paid them foreieio
- *not scientific.eieio
- version30
chemicals pollutants: bad.
- teleos0
There's the Nairnian emotionalism I was expecting...
No sir, you need to read more than your link. The tide of evidence is leaning more and more in the direction of cyclical trends in the earth's climate which are not anthropogenic. Cows produce more harmful emissions that the sum of automobiles on this planet. Further, I care a lot about this planet. As a Christian, I am called to obey the "Cultural Mandate" which requires that I be a good steward of creation. That I respect it and do everything I can to preserve it. In doing so, I push back against the "curse" of the Fall and play a part in the renewal that Christ will eventually bring to this planet. It will one day be like it originally was.
I'm just not willing to let political ideologues tell me what to believe and play on my emotions.
- You expect it because you know and your kind's very existence makes my bile rise.Nairn
- "my kind"? I know I know... it helps us sleep when we can compartmentalize and marginalize.teleos
- I have problems sleeping because of this world's problems - and yes, I compartmentalize religionists.Nairn
- If I could, I'd shut you all in a very, very, very small hermetically-sealed box.Nairn
- deathboy-1
@utopian
Why is the true boxes on both different? How does not planning and having a strong economy and everyone happy different than a mild recession if the shit hits the fan and a strong climate change happens. He draws to large conculsions from this without explaining his reasoning. I assume he wants u to assume spending and creating a recession will lead to the ability to control climate change. while the other of just doing what works for the larger number will create a bad future when climate change happens. If both take the same climate change blow id think the healthier economy with less of a recession will better weather the storm than those in the recession. right? if thats the logic... Unless there is implied climate controls and unequal climate effects based on decisions. If thats the case than what climate control supports were created at the cost of the recession and what did the naysayers do that create such a distructive outcome for them? I cant help but think that outlooks is silly too since its trying to generalize to viewpoints and make no claims in why they what reason they differ.
- shapesalad2
When you learn about soil, you realise how delicate things are:
- Ianbolton0
Admit it guys, as a human race, we're greedy enough to destroy our own planet to make money. All we want is to sit on our greedy fat arses, eat ready meals, take everything we have for granted, and then when it's gone, we feel a bit more lost in our pointless useless lives.
The fact we still have fascinations with man-made cities like Dubai which has literally no solar panels whatsoever, in a desert, with sun throughout the year, is absolutely ridiculous. Dubai makes so much money through oil it buys all the things it needs. We want everything bigger, more powerful, more destructive to the planet. How stupid is that?Why do we give a shit, when it's obvious that nobody is going to do anything about it?
Well in fact they are doing things. We have government protected forests and park, we have sustainable tree farms for our paper, we have localised fish farms to help replenish the 3/4 depleted oceans, we have wind farms (which people complain about because they look ugly!), we have solar farms, we have countries who don't allow driving on particular days to encourage drive shares, encouraging community focus. We have so many things, due to government understanding and focus, which are allowing us to hopefully bring people together to work as a single human race towards a more efficient planet. It's not until we get together, and conquer our greed that we can begin to see any difference in the way we live our lives.
Right, I need to get the next local flight to work. Bye!
- Totally agree. People think short term in their daily lives, but can look long term when thinking policy.joeth
- Check out Masdar, a city being built in Abu Dhabi to run only on solar. http://en.wikipedia.…joeth
- designbot0
I read this the other day....
What happened to Global Warming? Quite interesting considering BBC has always been very pro man made global warming.
- Finally the naysayers are getting some attention...time for a real discussion to start.designbot
- http://www.qbn.com/t…version3
- http://www.qbn.com/t…version3
- oops....can't believe it got posted twice already :)designbot
- utopian2
Trump administration sees a 7-degree rise in global temperatures by 2100.
- bliznutty0
oh noes!
save the polar bears from climate change!
- Mark of the Simpleminded: Reduce a complex subject to an abstract and useless phrase.TheBlueOne
- GeorgesII-1
@ TBO
I'm a cynical fuck now,
I wonder on what fuckn planet you're living. You have really learned the art of trolling a discussion, you rarely bring your own point of view but only repeats what you think (hope) is acceptable. I always say what I think and when I'm wrong I accept it, I don't need to spin a subject by calling crazies or other pejorative names. I know this is the internet, but I will never be able to have a serious discussion with you, because apparently everyone that disagree with you is either a loon or a cynical fuck.
Did you even know that the warmest year was in 98, but we can't have a discussion of facts with you, we need to shout and yell. I don't function like that, I've argued with people whom were by far of higher intelligence and I've gained so much from it, but from you I'll gain only insults, because I point facts and don't follow blindly like you do. Does my individuality makes you angry?please refrain yourself in the future to attach names to people, its childish and kinda tiring. Look at what ukit posted, while you're insulting people here, the chinese got your economy by the balls (thanks to warren and his globalist clique) and are actually thinking about a green future. All this while you ride in your F-150.
- George, you must admit you really are against a lot and not really for much...DrBombay
- like what? mr bombay, give me examplesGeorgesII
- I don't have any offhand, it is just the impression I get.DrBombay
- you can't really build a house with only air.
thanks for beeing honest thoughGeorgesII - I will point it out to you in the future when I sense it.DrBombay
- yeah do that.
i'm sick of internetzers implying shit because they're hidden on the other side of the world, i'm honest on my views at leastGeorgesII - Yes. I drive a F-150, sure.TheBlueOne
- You're the one that stuck me in the "American Box" a year ago, not me.TheBlueOne
- Typical cynical eurotrash.TheBlueOne
- joeth1
350 parts per million is what many scientists, climate experts, and progressive national governments are now saying is the safe upper limit for CO2 in our atmosphere.
- 350 is a nice number, clearly not off the top of somebody's head.raf
- Yeah, major scientific organizations all across the globe are going with a number off the top of somebody's head.joeth
- still, wouldn't hurt go 350.akrokdesign
- raf0
- utopian6
The Energy 202: Trump has dismissed climate change as 'nonsense.' His administration just said otherwise.
- TheBlueOne-2
"I'm just not willing to let political ideologues tell me what to believe and play on my emotions."
hahahhaha...HAHAHAHAHAHA...oh man, thank you for giving me the best laugh of the fucking week...
