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  • Gnash0

    So twitter’s new ban on political ads has had the unfortunate side-effect of also banning ads from groups that are fighting climate change.

    So exhausting. It’s science not politics. As long as this issue is conflated this way nothing will change (aside from the climate)

    • Completely agreed. It's just one big UGH at this point.garbage
    • "It’s science not politics" - you my friend have no clue.pr2
    • The fact that it is seen as a political issue is a triumph of modern marketing sadly. Oil companies spent a huge amount of money to make it seem that way.yuekit
    • Lol, pr2, you certainly have the lock on cluesGnash
    • Can we just get rid of twitter?i_monk
    • @i_monk +1

      ..and FB while we're at it
      Krassy
    • climate forecasting is modelling; not science, which is hypothesis-theory-me... (replicate)-test-val...BustySaintClaire
    • @BustySaintClaire is speed science when predicting the outcome of a vehicle going fast? and modeling an outcome unless breaks are installed?Krassy
    • It's really more like predicting how fast that vehicle will be going next Tuesday.monNom
    • You realize science is 100%, entirely, all about predicting outcomes of phenomena, yes?i_monk
    • ^ thisGnash
    • forecasting models represent the actual scientific method at workmonospaced
    • The only reason to deny this science is if you've been brainwashed to do so by anti-science religious conservatives. That seems to be the group behind it all.monospaced
    • I wouldn’t go as far as including a religious element, profits are enough of an incentive to deny the scienceGnash
    • True. But those people not profiting who still deny it ...monospaced
  • hans_glib0


    • Do you have a link to this data? looks interesting. We need to start building that extra 0.7237 of an earth soon or we're fucked!Ianbolton
    • spaceX, China National Space Administration, Indian Space Research Organisation...all looking at extraterrestrial possibilitiesuan
    • Considering we talk of the miracle that our planet is so perfect for our own existence, the possibilities of terraforming Mars - for example, sounds a little...Ianbolton
    • ridiculous.Ianbolton
    • first it's about survival...later generations can enjoy a comfortable next 1st world life.uan
    • meanwhile newly developed technology from space will help make 20th cent. consumerism culture on the planet obsolete. in 1-3 generations maybe.uan
    • @ianbolton: https://www.theworld… etc etchans_glib
    • Wait. How are we on 7.7Bn population already? I thought we'd not long-since hit 7Bn?!Nairn
    • Cheers Hans. Positives of that though is if we take all the sea life out the sea would that mean sea levels will fall so we'll all be safe?Ianbolton
    • Nairn... it's pretty obvious the patriarchy is winning!Ianbolton
    • Wolrld population has doubled in my lifetime. If I reach my mom's age, I expect it will have halved by then.nuggler
  • utopian-1

    • Holy shit, the cloud patterns are exactly the same - what are the chances?!
      What does it mean?
      Nairn
    • heheheOBBTKN
    • hahahadeathboy
    • or wait lol @ utopian.. stuff like this makes it hard to take you seriously you understand rightdeathboy
    • @deathboy...no one here takes you seriouslyutopian
    • well utopian again hard to take you serious on that statement... where is your data? best to speak for oneself before making statements you can't backdeathboy
    • @Nairn: it's cyclic. like the earth around the sun or the moon around the earth...just a bit longer (39 years)uan
  • i_monk7

    Meet the Money Behind The Climate Denial Movement

    https://www.smithsonianmag.com/s…

    There is a very well-funded, well-orchestrated climate change-denial movement, one funded by powerful people with very deep pockets. In a new and incredibly thorough study, Drexel University sociologist Robert Brulle took a deep dive into the financial structure of the climate deniers, to see who is holding the purse strings.

    According to Brulle's research, the 91 think tanks and advocacy organizations and trade associations that make up the American climate denial industry pull down just shy of a billion dollars each year, money used to lobby or sway public opinion on climate change and other issues.

    “The anti-climate effort has been largely underwritten by conservative billionaires,” says the Guardian, “often working through secretive funding networks. They have displaced corporations as the prime supporters of 91 think tanks, advocacy groups and industry associations which have worked to block action on climate change.”

    • Nearly a billion dollars a year is flowing into the organized climate change counter-movement. Thanks Republitards!utopian
    • yeah but those greedy scientists.inteliboy
    • And the money behind the climate religion movement? You idiot.Hayoth
    • there is a case to fund lobbyists to battle nonsense. curiosu about the cliamte "denial" label though. Is the money truely provided by climate change deniers...deathboy
    • the same outcome of peopel who believe they can control climate through regulation and keep a status quo...deathboy
    • you don't fund lobbyists to battle nonsense. you hire lobbyists to push your own business' interests.uan
    • politics is business uan. it deosnt need to make sense if its an issue to be sold and campaigned upondeathboy
    • also there is quite a business in carbon credits. hell fuzzy fincials helped float tesla to an illusion of profitdeathboy
    • but it was just millions sold to casino to reduce tax incomes while providing money to losing businessdeathboy
    • and as a company take subaru and arbitrary mpg levels fucking up cars and making people take shortcuts as the only way ( also VW). is it in best interests fordeathboy
    • hakf engineered solutions to arbitrary probels that create faulty transmission or unstable motors? it is in business interestes to fight arbitrary legislationdeathboy
    • because it changes the market. no longer is developing the best product ppl want to buy the goal. its making profit on a product behind arbitray goals and ruledeathboy
    • in some cases developing a product no one wants and taking tax credits for it as ony profit.deathboy
    • doesn't change the fact that polluting the planet is bad for you and the rest of us. but hey, go on singing your 'free markets' anthem.uan
    • it doesn't matter, because green technology is superior and will succeed.uan
    • lol@deathboyutopian
    • Relax, Brulle's also studying the money behind the climate change and environmentalist movements.i_monk
    • I know you rightwingers are all about 'balance' and 'both sides'.i_monk
    • @hayoth "Climate religion movement"? Wow you're dumb.garbage
    • And yay, we get to play the deathboy game. First word, last word, don't read anything in between.garbage
    • "There profit."garbage
    • haha uan way to move the goal post. yes uan polluting is "bad" for all we know to our current existence. But to ignore free markets and go all dictatorshipdeathboy
    • and medievel in the name of all that is green is retarded. even half steppin with subsidies has been a waste that only helped the upper social class while imposdeathboy
    • ing greater costs on the lower class. have u ever wondered if the balance between rich and poor in the eco realm of free amrket is those with the most to losedeathboy
    • might try to have cake and eat it too financing regualtion that benefits them and hurts the majority all for a "greater" causedeathboy
    • "haha cause"garbage
    • these flippin looser redumblicas are already as horrific as the climate will become..neverscared
    • haha whos a redumblicas never? sound like a old bat saying the mexican help are stealing but she has no help.deathboy
    • "these help"garbage
    • Supplemental links:
      https://study.com/ac…
      garbage
    • https://study.com/ac…garbage
    • haha garbage act like you cant understand what i said becuase of punctuation. oh shit i didnt capitalize my i either u madd brodeathboy
    • if you want to discredit what im saying craft an arguement or provide something of substance or you keep doing u. just seems juvenile and uncouthdeathboy
    • You haven't said anything of substance yet.i_monk
  • Bennn0

    I dont think anything gonna change soon. we're all too deep into the capitalist system. just look around you.

    each time an american buy an electric car, 10 Indians and Chinese buy a SUV, this is just one example.

    and the cause has been associated to the Left ... all the Right despise anything regarding climate change... so that's a lot of people who dont give a shit and just think its all fake news.

    Things will start to really change when the new generation will get the political power... in like 20-35 years ...

    so yeah, good luck to all of us.

    • and people will act when it personally touch them in their daily routine. because its not obvious enough yet for the masses.Bennn
    • nothings going to change soon because the process of climate change is well under way, pretty much unstoppable at this rate.hans_glib
    • We don't all not care about the environment on the right ok. You should stop being so judgemental of people who don't think like you, you might learn something.zarkonite
    • Well, the majority of the Right doesnt believe/care in Climate change. Not all Righties. Sorry zarkonite.Bennn
    • Once there's huge population shifts folk will maybe believe, but by then they'll be setting up concentration camps to get rid of the refugees.PhanLo
    • The opinion you just wrote is almost exactly what the right is saying, Canada is small and other than being nice there's not much we can do to help with thezarkonite
    • problem. In the meantime the carbon tax is useless and just makes people suffer.zarkonite
    • Lol Zarkon, there's plenty people can do, but no one's planning fuck all. Just deal with it when it comes.PhanLo
    • LOL Phanlo. All of Canada produces under 1.6% of global emissions, you could nuke this entire country and the impact wouldn't register.zarkonite
    • Just start dumping your rubbish in rivers and feeding bears plastic. Canada is too clean.PhanLo
    • i wonder where you would be without capitalism benn. or how it really provides in your daily lifedeathboy
    • look at boris yeltsin jsut walking in a us supermarket.deathboy
  • i_monk5

    Waiting for deathboy to make his case instead of expecting everyone else to prove a negative.

    • Too busy googling 'Greta Thunberg Malthusian Keynesian Taliban'kingsteven
    • 'Greta Thunberg lizard people Soros conspiracy'i_monk
    • The wait is long. Very Long.
      https://www.theepoch…
      BustySaintClaire
    • ^How many of those newspaper articles were based on peer-reviewed studies vs. poorly researched predictions by cranks out of their depths?i_monk
    • ^Also: https://www.dailykos…i_monk
    • haha i dont have any case or prediction. im not some dumbing fuckin kid or scientist selling "science" for a paydaydeathboy
    • and more curiously case on what note exactly? Timelines, datasets, manmade vs natural, historical, types of measurements, bias, statistics?deathboy
    • your negative i think is akin to disproving god. you think of this climate change like a demon that can only be excorized by a self chosen few.deathboy
    • you do realize before humans existed climate changed. and datasets based on 100,000 years of ice core, geology, history depicts global changes humans need todeathboy
    • adapt too. yet now you get fearful "scientific" prophets predict end of days in 12 years unless you REPENT or just make arbitrary changes no one can measure ordeathboy
    • evaluate. really come on who is the sucker here?... or cant reason with a religious person why their scripture is illogical. might be the same heredeathboy
    • "peer-reviewed" aka "filtered". Let all research be held with the same regard and evaluated on its own merit.robthelad
    • hahaha fuck me deathboy, you are the one coming on here with the unquestionable capitalist doctrine. there's been some admiration of greta for her activismkingsteven
    • and you and robo, busty posting the same old denier arguments we've all read a thousand times. forming conspiracies about a teenager then sexualising thekingsteven
    • conversation when you've been laughed out of the conversation for it. do not assume we're all as thick as you and incapable of making up our own minds.kingsteven
    • lol all he does is shit in science because he’s a dropoutmonospaced
    • deathboy: Go home, the adults are talking.i_monk
    • @robthelad, "peer-reviewed" is the highest level of professional scrutiny imaginable or in existence. It is carried out by experts. Your criticism is unfounded.monospaced
    • Climate forecasting is ~modelling~ not science, which is hypothesis-theory-me... It is selective input data for desired results.BustySaintClaire
    • king you talk a lot but say little. perhaps focus on the data and what is real. jeez busty gets it.deathboy
    • seriously lads, you are pulling this out of your arse right now. i'm not even defending greta let alone ALL climate science.kingsteven
    • i'm more or less just having fun calling you guys out for an incredibly bad take on something incompatible with your beliefskingsteven
    • i sort of get your criticism of mono, but at the same time i'd say scientific consensus is far more valid a belief than the basis of your critiquekingsteven
    • which is based on the incompatibility of climate activism with capitalism/ normative egoist beliefs.kingsteven
    • how convenient king. no need of proof. jsut fuckin around and trying to say our point is a belief while stating yoursdeathboy
    • "based on the incompatibility of climate activism with capitalism/ normative egoist beliefs" is fact. Quite soem assumptions to it..deathboy
    • cliamte activism is largely out of poor education and fear. that fear is easily misplaced politically for selfish gains and egotistical beliefsdeathboy
    • such as a kid thinking they can egotisically fix the world.deathboy
    • which makes me wonder where your principles lie. you seem to support what you dont like. i think u have no cluedeathboy
    • i seem to support something i don't like? where? another typical egoist belief is the inability to change things due to a sense of lack of control.kingsteven
    • so you're never going to understand the motivations of an altruistically minded young, socialist (i assume) climate change activist.kingsteven
    • she is the anti-you (well, except the autism)kingsteven
    • you seem to not like egotists but adept at following them without ability to acknowledge their merits.deathboy
    • a belief in knowing what you can and cannot control is a belief until reason comes into play. You seem to have some blind church style faith in your belief.deathboy
    • im thinking you are similar to a dogmatic church indoctrinated type person. You have found faith in your beliefs and its prophets.deathboy
    • and no i will never understadn the motivations of true altruistic people. However I also dont believe in altruism.deathboy
    • there was a house episode where a guy show altruistic traits but was a disease. true altruism is a death sentence. its a sacrifice giving oneself. geneticallydeathboy
    • not a good trait and wont be long lived. faking altruism and getting others to sacrifice for you a whole different storydeathboy
    • something you might look at becuase all church rule and history relies heavily upon. which is odd why the right has the religious and left has the state...deathboy
    • until you see it BOTH THE SAME SHIT. both beleive in omnipotent beings, but differ on the savior. one wan other keep ts to appoint a persondeathboy
    • other keep it metaphysical and old school scripture luddite style. not into rengineering millenniums of social control. historically on both accounts withdeathboy
    • progressive spins or jsut plain religion we see its been a complete failure leading to massive sufferingdeathboy
    • just take it in and think about it. mull it over, test it. its not about being right. its about truth and reason.deathboy
    • db egoist != egotist... but to a degree i used to have similar egoist beliefs to you until i read enough about it to realise it's not true and ultimately selfkingsteven
    • defeating. egoism relies on altruism to exist there are several well known thought experiments that disprove psychological egoism. and a ton of well knownkingsteven
    • examples of selfless altruism. even in a business sense egoism relies on altruism much as lying relies on truth telling. this is accepted by most economistskingsteven
    • and most successful business leaders. your doctrine of homo-economicus is a fallacy circulated as anti-communist propaganda.kingsteven
    • and while i'm a sceptic, you are an ideologically motivated denier... while an exact prediction can not be made on man's impact on the climatekingsteven
    • any rational person wouldn't claim that there's a chance that it is.kingsteven
    • also, to get back to gretta... all 16 year olds are annoying as fuck and of course her youth is promoted as political neutrality but to approach her askingsteven
    • weaponised socialism is just defensive and essentially political xenophobia. capitalism needs social and ecological reform or it will destroy itself.kingsteven
    • haha did you get sucked into some of those leadership cults or something king? you state stuff but not back it. ex how goes egosim relies on altruism to exist?deathboy
    • those leadership cults who take your phone away and and make you cry over 24-48 hours to rebuild you in there network shit is a joke. GET OUT. STAY OUTdeathboy
    • i dont give a fuck about a dumb kid. but who and what dollars behind motivation to promote the kid. not people who happy to give money away and be poor.deathboy
    • if being broke made them happy they'd be broke. if giving money somehow staying even or making more money i get even under a guise of altruismdeathboy
    • let the suckers fund their non work social causes and parties in their namesdeathboy
    • and im a skeptic. and ideological. but always on logic and reason. if i deny i state exactly why. if evidence to the contrary is shown i am happy to adjustdeathboy
    • my ideology exists in philosophical/scient... axioms. not opinion. nor any whim i might be happy to accept.deathboy
    • ... look at your statement capitalism needs social and ecological reform... explain that. because by the sound of it who are cluelessdeathboy
    • deathboy hitting the bottle once again lolutopian
    • Anyone who thinks capitalism is functioning smoothly is a sociopath.i_monk
    • anyone who can't see what is capitalism is a fool..deathboy
  • utopian-1

    Rising Sea Levels Could Destroy These Coastal Cities by 2050, Threatening Hundreds of Millions

    https://www.yahoo.com/entertainm…

    Rising Sea Levels To Affect 3 Times More People Than Once Feared: Study

    https://www.huffpost.com/entry/r…

    Climate change scientists say rising seas will flood three times more people than previously thought

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news…

    • these maps never show sea levels 1-2k years ago :(sted
    • https://www.youtube.…Fax_Benson
    • @sted Are you seriously suggesting we should consider what 2000-year-old maps have to say? Cartography wasn't even a serious science until the 1600s.garbage
    • The old maps were less about sea levels, more about sea monsters.garbage
    • @garbage lol sea monsters :D
      we know a lot about what happened from the soil/ground layers in these areas :)
      sted
  • omahadesigns-8

    • Judith Curry retired 2.5 years ago. That's one of many reasons she's had no media coverage.e-wo
    • I hope you will find a way to cultivate a more open mind and not entrench into this position.e-wo
    • "repeatedly uses angry distorted face of girl with Asperger's syndrome in every depiction of her" - Media Manipulationutopian
  • i_monk0

    How the Extinction Rebellion got its powerful, unsettling logo

    https://www.fastcompany.com/9041…

    • I like the hourglass symbol, but the color applications really blow ass.utopian
  • utopian3

    Gawd Bless Merica

    An Iowa teacher who said he wouldn't attend a climate rally featuring Greta Thunberg because he didn't have his 'sniper rifle' has been put on leave.

    https://news.yahoo.com/iowa-teac…

    • Poor #MAGA fella got triggeredutopian
    • Triggered by a teenage girlutopian
    • welcome to #MAGA Countryutopian
    • Whiny little bitch.ideaist
    • There is no problem, great or small that cannot be solved with a man and a gun. That's how we'll deal with the rising sea levels. Guy's a geniusPhanLo
    • Well Caligula did once try to go to war with Poseidon by having his army attack the water with their swords, so not much has changed it seems._niko
    • jeeze, and he was the science teacher too.sarahfailin
    • ^^^ That's the worst part.section_014
    • a science teacher who can make a joke. this is getting a bit winnie the poo right. maybe journalism could ask the question with you science background how dodeathboy
    • you disagree? i clearly don't believe you are going to be violent referencing something you dont own... get itdeathboy
    • but than again its iowa...deathboy
  • robotron3k-2

  • sted2

    • if a kid got front stage along all media to discuss how flossing builds societal bridges and we need to do it more i hope adult o child challenges itdeathboy
    • fuckin like 30 kids flossin is my nightmare and feels no different than thisdeathboy
    • it makes perfect sense that basic hygiene would be among your nightmares.ben_
    • He's devolved into a chatbot.i_monk
    • You’re comparing the health of the planet to a dance move. You’re not only an idiot, you’re an asshole too. Congrats, notes boy. Commence with your incoherence.monospaced
    • lol, I should have googled flossing. officially old.ben_
    • haha dont use a simile or you become an asshole! the health of a planet? how was its physcials results? you probably dont understand how stupid of a statementdeathboy
    • that is... and ben i found humor in your ignorant response. ill informed.. ignorant seems mean. i dont follow trends either. but still funnydeathboy
    • im just more curious to know what mono thinks is a healthy planet. 120 over 80? haha the divide is so largedeathboy
    • Trying to take refuge in semantics is a sure sign even you know you've lost the debate.i_monk
    • trying to take refuge in semantics how imonk?deathboy
  • Bindegal1

    • https://media.giphy.…Gnash
    • I love how everyone is ripping into this young girl, who actual has the gall to stand up for something that we adult have taken from her generation.utopian
    • I only saw the back of her head during her speech at the Montreal rally and I felt like this little girl has a really strong charisma. She is making history.nbq
    • First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win.i_monk
    • You too can stop global warming, if you download her app,https://www.wedo...robotron3k
    • Oops! https://www.wedontha…robotron3k
    • Her generation won't have a lawn.Cosmodrome
    • ^ boom!Gnash
    • Conservative fucktards want to make sure of that.monospaced
    • Young woman is stupid and sheltered, it's great she's getting out of that baby-size country of hers and see the worlds is massive and green everywhere!robotron3k
    • ^ yeah that's right, I said it. Also, all you mofos forget about Antarctica, it's massive & the fuking mountains ooze oil 24/7 because of the ice pressure.robotron3k
    • you say a lot of things, robo.ben_
    • Sort of funny. Maybe they need another mass slaughter of millions to sort them out?PhanLo
    • ‘I said it’ always sounds like a desperate cry for attention. Everybody read what you said, and that you said that you said it, and still zero fucks given.sr_rosa
    • Lawns are useless and takes too much uneceraary resources to maintain. Exactly what are lawns for?pango
    • Or is it just a social norm?
      Maybe start thinking for you self? Don't be a sheep?
      pango
    • 'Exactly what are lawns for?' Property value, insect reduction and golf. Fun sidenote: 'sheep' are great natural lawnmowers.PonyBoy
    • Goats are betterGnash
    • fuck lawns.inteliboy
    • If "this generation" is incapable of something, the blame lands squarely on the parents and gr.parents for failing to raise them to do it.i_monk
    • It's a stupid meme for shallow thinkers.i_monk
    • all my lawns are dead thanks to drought, thanks to global warming. so touché grandpaautoflavour
    • pro and cons of lawns dont add up.
      it uses a tone of fucking water. doesn't produce much oxygen.
      pango
    • no agricultural value. purely states symbol.
      it only increase property value because other people believes the same make believe value.
      pango
    • ... and golf.PonyBoy
    • lawns are the most aggregated plant in america. so much resource for so little.

      *status symbol
      pango
    • also *irrigation =__=pango
    • robo, have you ever thought of, y'know, just fucking off and never coming back?face_melter
    • @pango Apparently lawns have always been a show of wealth or status. We still see them in the Middle East in which rich Arabs try and sustain a lawn...Ianbolton
    • ... in dry, scorching heat only to say ‘look at my lawn, look how I’ve succeeded in life’ hahaIanbolton
    • And Robo. Why do you become a keyboard warrior the way you do on here? You seem to assume that we all need educating or that we’re all idiots, which is annoyingIanbolton
    • This one is for pony. You don't need lawn for golf.pango
    • https://gfycat.com/h…pango
    • omg omg... owww!!PonyBoy
  • drgs0

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gr…

    Thunberg says she first heard about climate change in 2011, when she was 8 years old, and could not understand why so little was being done about it.[14] Three years later she became depressed and lethargic, stopped talking and eating, and was eventually diagnosed with Asperger syndrome,[15] obsessive–compulsive disorder (OCD),[15] and selective mutism.[15][16] While acknowledging that her diagnosis "has limited me before", she does not view her Asperger's as an illness and has instead called it her "superpower".[16]

    • < also: OPEC secretary-general Barkindo called her: 'perhaps the greatest threat to our industry going forward'.uan
    • ^
      if that's the case, which I doubt, expect her to meet some unfortunate accident.
      Nairn
    • https://web.archive.…uan
    • ^to long for comments, short url: https://bit.ly/2nnFh…uan
    • Someone explain this girl how money rule the world. Then it will make more sense for her.ApeRobot
    • @uan - I wasn't much doubting it was said, more that it wasn't meant in an earnest, conciliatory manner. As ApeRobot says - money's the power.Nairn
    • @ape that’s why she’s talking to the right people ... I’m sure she has a solid grasp on how shit worksmonospaced
  • kingsteven2

    @Deathboy, Robotranny WE GOT 'EM!!

    Greta most likely an animatronic doll called Cindy, Arnie most likely a shareholder in the aeronautics industry trying to clear his name and protect his family conspirators who seek to keep the illegal cloning of humans a secret.

    • You know you could always provide real info instead of making up shit. The rise of a child with an opinion. Howd that happen? only happens with media+ moneydeathboy
    • if im not incorrect. instead of conspiracy fiction images maybe you cna anwer the basics or even look at them?deathboy
    • explore the rise and look at what incentive and support is given from who and such. personally i have no idea how this nonsense happeneddeathboy
    • but i make no mistake in its nonsense and strings beong pulleddeathboy
    • you have no idea how it happened yet i look in to it? i knew who she was before folks started scoring points off her popularity. look in to yourself toolboykingsteven
    • Pff she’s obviously in her 30’s and a former sandy hook actor!_niko
    • https://twitter.com/…dmay
    • what a dumbass ... these days kids can rise to stardom just through youtubemonospaced
    • king i find no need. but i find your lack of concern for financing and PR for all this shit surprising. You in advertising? PR? any idea how this shit works?deathboy
    • someone pays the plane tickets, deals with the schooling, with parents and travel costs. PR, calls, handling. Who's picking up the costs?deathboy
    • And for what reason? And should kids be sold as pawns? Where are the parents in all this? I always find you can read so much more in what is not saiddeathboy
    • or king fill free to post your blind love of some young girl and ill try not to question wether you just find her attractive... hehe see i did that lowimapktdeathboy
    • style of conversation. OMG he must be a pedophile since he cant state any reason for fawning over her!! sigh...deathboy
    • Haha, I think shes annoying as hell tbh. I'm just having a laugh at you trying to form an anti capitalist conspiracy with no information...kingsteven
    • ie who pays for her flights hahaha you seriously have not read one thing... all the info is out there.kingsteven
    • Also that's twice now you have sexualised the conversation it really is not on...kingsteven
    • deathboy, don't worry, you aren't paying for any of itmonospaced
    • because that seems to be your big concern, and your biggest misunderstanding most of the timemonospaced
    • actually king i didn't see any obvious money streams. please share a link to the financials of this. is it SP or under an llc or under a non us entity company?deathboy
    • i haven't seen anything on financials. please provide them if you have themdeathboy
    • mono as much as u bore me you u seem to highlight my cost approach as stupid and as reason to ignore it is it doesn't effect me.spoken as a typical fooldeathboy
    • politician or just a blind fool. One who has such small vision of how things are. An example is can u display a policy based on such thought that does not effdeathboy
    • ect me? Oh man I'll pay for it and so many others. You can look at CA for so many real world outcomes. The idea is someone else pays but u reap benefit is a jokdeathboy
    • really hate to cast such judgement but fuck man you are such a simp.u clearly have no independent thought and follow ebs and flows of your prescribed mediadeathboy
    • like a pathetic alter boy chasing the acceptance of a rapist priest. probably be cool wit it and accept it make your ideas more divine. so much pity and yet sodeathboy
    • so lil because of your pride in it it. you are a bible thumper nutter job. just happened to find a different scripture.deathboy
    • ^ from the pulpit of the church of egoismkingsteven
  • Bennn-1

    Things will start to really change when the childrens of our childrens will get to power positions.

    The Humanity is a huge ass boat to turn around, it takes generations to do so.

    • Bennnsplained®

      :D
      Maaku
    • > it takes generations to do so.

      The Nazis didn't think so.
      TotalChange 2021™
      Nairn
    • Power positions, Ummm... So, the same of the same, but more "green"?OBBTKN
    • "Churrens of our churrens"
      Don't never change Bennn.
      deadsperm
    • Power attracts sociopaths of all generations.i_monk
    • wait who are u if not _ben? i assumed you both tiger i have a belt i feel some authority shitdeathboy
  • i_monk11

    • deathboy at the bottom there LOLHayzilla
    • It's great to see how young Greta has advanced the conversation to action. Great success!IRNlun6
    • ^ Yeah because indigenous people from the Amazon and similar places have failed to do so since the 70'sMaaku
    • I'm dead, and sending this to every member of my family.garbage
    • uh huh hayzilla. if you can show evidence she isn't a pawn and has real understanding of the issue ill accept the clown roledeathboy
    • but if not you guys can where the clown pants. what specific dataset is she being emo about? Lets see if she is overreacting even in context of her choicedeathboy
    • dataset. if there even is one... haha as is such a joke car wreck.deathboy
    • Are you really that much a dick? If she can encourage governments to be more sustainable and be considerate of our futures then she's already a successIanbolton
    • deathboy is the latest utter trollHayzilla
    • "If she can encourage governments..."
      I pissed myself.
      deadsperm
    • dont be a complete twat hazilla. provide something like u even have a base. ill entertain any attempt.deathboy
    • ian you are fool in thinking a kids emotional rant has any effect on our futures. poltically maybe (douches will be douches) but no way environmentally.deathboy
    • ring me when you find the politician that has omnipotent and physical controls of environments (and as such benefitting the masses)deathboy
    • haha clowns. again ill wear the pants if any real argument is made and dataset is shown as real truth.deathboy
    • I don't even think it's an argument or a differing of opinion. You just don't get it. Or maybe you're just trolling us all, therefore hahahahahahahahahaha...Ianbolton
    • It's on you to show she's some sort of con artist, not anyone else to prove she isn't.i_monk
    • I picture deathboy's screeds being typed out on a iPhone with a cracked screen, sent from the parking lot of whatever grocery store he's stealing wifi from.garbage
    • the only things that will have real affects on our futures will likely begin with emotional rants, as the power of human motivation is nearly limitlessmonospaced
    • to act like things just happen without anyone caring is beyond moronicmonospaced
    • its on me for proof of fake arguments. one can say whatever and need no proof... only an accuser calling BS.deathboy
    • very interesting perception of reality. my evidence is in history. of ppl predicting futures with models that never came true.deathboy
    • if you are looking for a profit(sp?) go for it. I see no logical reason to predict an apocalypse in 12 or 30 years.deathboy
    • or at any time. HOWEVER i do expect coastal water to rise with natural climate change effecting humansdeathboy
    • climate change will effect all we know as it has pre industrial. And i am highly skeptical of methods used to measure human climate change.deathboy
    • hell you guys are so sure of the methods used please state your go to method as the most accurate?deathboy
    • :)deathboy
    • Who's paying you to say this? You on the Koch payroll?i_monk
    • ^implying that anybody would pay for this. Also the summary of this latest rant is:

      "it's :)"

      He's trying to tell you he's having a good day.
      garbage
    • common sense with basic intelligence I_monk. did you notice you didn't display any evidence i was wrong? Please tell me if if and what reasons you thinkdeathboy
    • today's coastlines can exist as today for the long run? by the way koch funded a ton of public broadcast television which is miles aheads of networks and doesntdeathboy
    • pander to ad revenue or shareholder value. I personally like nova. better than the fox network rip off with that black bill nye dude for enterntainment.deathboy
    • however i do commend him for tryin to speak about gun violence on relative terms.probably fucked his career updeathboy
  • PeterPancake9

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  • i_monk2

    “This is all wrong. I shouldn’t be up here. I should be in school on the other side of the ocean. Yet you come to us young people for hope. How dare you. You have stolen my dreams and my childhood with your empty words, and yet, I’m one of the lucky ones. People are suffering. People are dying. Entire ecosystems are collapsing, we are in the beginning of a mass extinction and all you can talk about is money and fairytales of eternal economic growth. How dare you! For more than 30 years the science has been crystal clear. how dare you continue to look away and come here and say that you’re doing enough when the politics and solutions need are still nowhere in sight. You say you hear us and understand the urgency. But no matter how sad and angry I am I do not want to believe that because if you really understood the situation and still kept on failing to act, then you would be evil, and that I refuse to believe.

    “There will not be any solutions or plans presented in line with these figures here today, because these numbers are too uncomfortable and you are still not mature enough to tell it like it is. You are failing us. Young people are starting to understand your betrayal. The eyes of all future generations are upon you. If you choose to fail us, I say we will never forgive you. We will not let you get away with this. Right here, right now is where we draw the line. The world is waking up. Change is coming whether you like it or not.”

    Greta Fucking Thunberg

    • haha sounds like trump warning of rapists hopefully parents know how to monetize it or hired someone.deathboy
    • bigger issue is why a dumb kid is allowed to speak on big issues. has discourse chased the trend and devolved that all issues are discussed on level of childrendeathboy
    • ooh i like that ill post in politicsdeathboy
    • If it takes a 'poster girl' to get us all talking so be it.

      ps. You seem like a piece of shit.
      Hayzilla
    • hay. zilla. you seem like a roided out loser who snaps at anything he doesn't agree with. lets break it downdeathboy
    • you want a poster girl talking of climate change? Cool yea shit changes. All large form data says we are in a warming stage followed by cooling stage.deathboy
    • regardless of human interaction. now here is the question what can humans do and at what costs? This is the real question even youngins neglectdeathboy
  • utopian1

    The Trump Administration Has a Multi-Pronged Strategy to Make the Planet Uninhabitable

    If you ever wondered what it would look like for someone to go Jim Jones on the human race, look no further than the United States of America in the Year of Our Lord 2019. People who study this kind of thing believe we have to cut our heat-trapping emissions in half by 2030 to stand a chance of staving off the worst effects of the climate crisis, and avoid the feedback loops that will send the issue beyond our control. Believe it or not, however, the administration of Donald Trump, American president, is not proving particularly helpful in this regard.

    While the Fox News Grandpa has periodic spasms of insanity on Twitter and the White House lawn, the termites of the state his regime has ushered into power are hard at work dismantling regulations aimed at curbing our climate emissions. The latest example arrived Thursday courtesy of the New York Times.

    https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/…

    • People who study this kind of thing believe we have to cut our heat-trapping emissions in half by 2030 to stand a chance of staving off the worst effects of thedeathboy
    • worst effects of the climate crisis, and avoid the feedback loops that will send the issue beyond our control.deathboy
    • i have to really question those people studying that kind of thing. Almost sounds like they believe we can control climate...deathboy
    • also wonder why 2030 and not 2031... they smell like whiteys in fancy clothes preaching a new age salvation. especially considering past performance ofdeathboy
    • predictions and statements, let alone any proof of concept of control.deathboy
    • we get it, you don't believe the scientists are right and that you, in fact, have figured it all out. mr smart climate guy from a design forum.inteliboy
    • It's all propaganda. All of the corruption in the climate agenda with fake stats and lying and people still believe in enslaving countries to climate nonsenseHayoth
    • Our village idiot has spoken.utopian
    • Another Trump hater I see. Fuck you and deal with it. Oh and if you drive a car double fuck you for also contributing to it you hypocrite.irrelevant
    • I love the laziness..."it's all fake...all a conspiracy...all corruption....". That must help you sleep at night. Why bother with anything any scientist says?formed
    • Hell, why bother with anything logical at all, for anything. The clear disdain for the future, let alone a fellow human, is insane. I guess it's easy, though.formed
    • Easy and lazy to just shake fingers at everyone else, at the world, shouting "fake, FAKE! I hate you!! ".formed
    • An easier fix would be to convince China to cut their emission by a quarter, as they are 25% of global co2. USA only 12%monNom
    • And incidentally, this whole trade war Trump is stirring up might actually achieve that if manufacturing decreases.monNom
    • How ironic would it be if Trump turned out to be the best thing for the Climate?monNom
    • haha inteliboy im only pointing out what is obvious.if you want i'll wear the smarty pants but they're a bit snug in the crotchdeathboy
    • That's hliarious. If you wore the "smarty pants" you'd go around with your fly down all day, or possibly leave the house with them around your ankles.garbage
    • why would i do that garbage? smart enough to wear the elusive smarty pants, what makes you think id wear them in such fashion. sounds like youre sayingdeathboy
    • if i had such a thing i wouldn't know how to wear them... as the insult... but thats like calling a skinny person fat. insults work better if have a lil truthdeathboy
    • hey man, I never said anything about a pair of pants. you ok?inteliboy
    • its an expression inteliboy... assuming you are from here with relative intelligence yo should get it. if playing like u don't ... well its saddeathboy