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- utopian0
Gulf Oil Spill: Who's to Blame? BP, Halliburton and the Feds Are All Implicated...
Yes, that is Halliburton... Our beloved former (Republican) Vice President, Dick Cheney the chief architect of the Iraqi war and the former CEO of the infamous Halliburton Empire, who made billions of dollars war profiting from the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq!
http://industry.bnet.com/energy/…
"Drill Baby Drill" - Sarah (BP/Exxon/Mobile/Texaco) Palin
- haha I love how much you hate oil drilling. Take a look around you and start counting: http://www.ranken-en…mathinc
- Unless your computer is made of sticks, chicken feathers and cow shit then you're a fucking hypocrite.mathinc
- How does that make you a hypocrite? You have to love everything about oil to purchase products made of oil?IRNlun6
- i think the point is that you hate on what you depend onPonyBoy
- hi tommy!! :D :D
*spots you through a crowd of illegalsPonyBoy - haha yes, PB got it. Utopian loves to talk shit about the ugly parts of society that his koolaid brand of liberal idealism teaches himmathinc
- him to hate. When reality debunks his idealism nearly every time. Sure, poke fun at the people who died on that rig,mathinc
- talk shit about the rhetoric that Palin spills out of her hole. But how about you do that when you're prepared to not be surroundedmathinc
- surrounded by petroleum based products. Until then you're just a hypocrite.mathinc
- Isn't that the catch though? We're surrounded by petroleum products, wether we like it or not.IRNlun6
- We could be more grown up and acknowledge that petroleum is a staple for every civilized nation. That drilling formathinc
- oil isn't some act of Conservative greed. I know it goes against some of your liberal sensibilities but let's be honestmathinc
- It is kind of like wearing leather to a peta convention but damn theres no alternatives and shutting up and dealing doesn't help.IRNlun6
- ... help.IRNlun6
- here. We all use it. I'm all for using some other material to utilize, but what material might that be?mathinc
- i prefer to liePonyBoy
- i'm going to invent a computer made solely of soy and cactus... i just hope i can keep it from spoilingPonyBoy
- I want a soy cactus laptop!!!mathinc
- blah blah blah.DrBombay
- Of course petroleum is a staple, and I know I don't have to convince you that it comes with serious consequences.IRNlun6
- It just seems worse to me to ignore those consequences and continue to promote it's use. I know this is the opposite end of the spectrum.IRNlun6
- end of the spectrum.IRNlun6
- Don't shoot the messenger mathinc, you fucking inbred bitch!utopian
- Oy, the party of peace eh utopian?mathinc
- Yes IRN I agree.. but yeah it would be great if we had the infrastructure built that would allow us to run off of renewablemathinc
- sources, and I believe that we're headed in that direction. It's just the childish rhetoric of the utopians of the world who domathinc
- simple logic calculations without looking at a bigger picture. Oil = bad. Driving = bad. Plastic = bad. I mean come on, we all usemathinc
- these things and in a perfect world, we would be able to do what we do without having to use something as volatile to the environment as oil.mathinc
- environment as oil, problem is that we're not there yet. Utopian is incapable of a having a grownup conversation, as is Bombay.mathinc
- Rick (Bombay), so they have to resort to potshots and cynicism instead of facing reality.mathinc
- Blah blah blah you run your fucking yap a lot.DrBombay
- Thanks for illustrating what I was saying.mathinc
- You spend as much time in this thread as you accuse others of, talking loud and saying nothing.DrBombay
- And you're a liar. I've been around today, but before that the last time I was here was Earth Day I think.mathinc
- Your opinions are like asking a drunk about his theories on quantum physics. He'll run his mouth for 30 minutes but you won't learn a thing.DrBombay
- won't learn a thing.DrBombay
- Do you feel like talking about the topic or do you just want to keep running your mouth about how I like to run my mouth?mathinc
- Go ahead and type your response out on your petroleum derived keyboard. :Dmathinc
- sigg0
- ukit0
Since BP was reaping all the profits...I say let them pay for the entire clean up, and take the hit in terms of liability. No more bailouts.
Right conservatives?
- georgesIII0
The US is coming down faster than I thought
Wtf is wrong with those tards?
Frrrrrrrrrrrreeeeeeeeeeedom ??
fuckn retards- Nugent shit his actual pants to avoid military service. Real fucking patriot. Asshole.********
- Nugent shit his actual pants to avoid military service. Real fucking patriot. Asshole.
- quack0
get 'em ted! (idiot)- Cat...ideaist
- ...scratch fever.
you were waiting for that.madmanGerald
- ********0
The "Hypocrite Strawman".
These conservative thinkers love to throw around the "hypocrite strawman". i.e. "Al Gore has ten houses, a yacht and a gazillion giant computer screens, so he can't be an environmentalist. You drive a car with oil and turn on your lights at night, so you have no standing to talk about conservation or the environment." etc.
Nice.
The logic at work here is to equate the quality of information inherent in the message vs. the medium of it's delivery.
I mean, if a guy dying of lung cancer after smoking a pack a dady tells you not to smoke, sure you could say "You fucking hypocrite.." but in reality the truth and useful content "don't smoke" is real regardless of who utters it. This works just as well for environmental causes, etc.
Just because someone drives an SUV doesn't mean if they utters something factual about conservation of energy sources that the inherent truth in that statement is suspect.
But, you know, continue to lie comfortably asleep in your rhetorical tricks. Serves you all well, let' you sleep at night, etc. But don't think you're doing anything close to facing reality.
- georgesIII0
agent provocateur
- DrBombay0
California Gov. Schwarzenegger withdraws support to expand oil drilling off state's coast
- joeth0
Krugman:
"courting irreversible environmental disaster for the sake of a few barrels of oil, an amount that will hardly affect our dependence on imports, is a terrible bargain."
- luckyorphan0
End to Rescission, and More Good News
May 3, 2010http://www.nytimes.com/2010/05/0…
"Americans are already starting to see the benefits of health care reform. The new law requires health insurance companies — starting in September — to end their most indefensible practice: rescinding coverage after a policyholder gets sick. In recent days insurers and their trade association have rushed to announce that they will end rescissions immediately."
"The insurers decided to act quickly after they were whacked by some very bad publicity. An investigative report by Reuters said that one of the nation’s biggest insurers, WellPoint, was targeting women with breast cancer for fraud investigations that could lead to rescissions."
"Although WellPoint fiercely denied singling out breast cancer patients for scrutiny, it acknowledged using computer algorithms to search for a range of conditions that applicants would likely have known about at the time they applied. That seemed like a backhanded admission that it was indeed searching for excuses — the company would say legitimate reasons — to cancel coverage. The Obama administration and Congressional Democrats urged insurers to end rescissions at once."
- ********0
The man was identified as Faisal Shahzad, a naturalized American citizen, who had recently returned from a five-month trip to Pakistan and the city of Peshawar, a known jumping off point for al Qaeda and Taliban recruits.
- We're all thankful for his stupidity of buying harmless fertilizer rather than the volatile type used by McVeighlocustsloth
- fooler20
Are these the idiots we have been fighting against for 8 years?
Bombs made out of M-80's and propane tanks and we still can't win?- news flash... no one was ever going to win the "War on Terrorism"********
- news flash... no one was ever going to win the "War on Terrorism"
- ********0
http://article.nationalreview.co…Mexican President Felipe Calderon has accused Arizona of opening the door "to intolerance, hate, discrimination and abuse in law enforcement." But Arizona has nothing on Mexico when it comes to cracking down on illegal aliens. While open-borders activists decry new enforcement measures signed into law in "Nazi-zona" last week, they remain deaf, dumb or willfully blind to the unapologetically restrictionist policies of our neighbors to the south.
-- The Mexican government will bar foreigners if they upset "the equilibrium of the national demographics." How's that for racial and ethnic profiling?
-- If outsiders do not enhance the country's "economic or national interests" or are "not found to be physically or mentally healthy," they are not welcome. Neither are those who show "contempt against national sovereignty or security." They must not be economic burdens on society and must have clean criminal histories. Those seeking to obtain Mexican citizenship must show a birth certificate, provide a bank statement proving economic independence, pass an exam and prove they can provide their own health care.
-- Illegal entry into the country is equivalent to a felony punishable by two years' imprisonment. Document fraud is subject to fine and imprisonment; so is alien marriage fraud. Evading deportation is a serious crime; illegal re-entry after deportation is punishable by ten years' imprisonment. Foreigners may be kicked out of the country without due process and the endless bites at the litigation apple that illegal aliens are afforded in our country (see, for example, President Obama's illegal alien aunt -- a fugitive from deportation for eight years who is awaiting a second decision on her previously rejected asylum claim).
-- Law enforcement officials at all levels -- by national mandate -- must cooperate to enforce immigration laws, including illegal alien arrests and deportations. The Mexican military is also required to assist in immigration enforcement operations. Native-born Mexicans are empowered to make citizens' arrests of illegal aliens and turn them in to authorities.
-- Ready to show your papers? Mexico's National Catalog of Foreigners tracks all outside tourists and foreign nationals. A National Population Registry tracks and verifies the identity of every member of the population, who must carry a citizens' identity card. Visitors who do not possess proper documents and identification are subject to arrest as illegal aliens.
- But then again, why would anyone want to live in that sh*t place?!********
- But then again, why would anyone want to live in that sh*t place?!
- locustsloth0
So, essentially, you're being 'that' kid who, when his parents say he can't do something, points to the worst example and shouts 'BUT HOW COME HE GETS TO DO IT?!?!?!?"
- ********0
http://blogs.abcnews.com/politic…
Three days after he decried the lack of civility in American politics, President Obama is quoted in a new book about his presidency referring to the Tea Party movement using a derogatory term with sexual connotations.
The book also describes many of the president’s top advisers cautioning him against trying to tackle health care reform in the first year because it might be too much to take on at the same time as the recession.
“‘I begged the president not to do this,” White House chief of staff Rahm Emanuel says.
“They’ll give you a pass on this one,” Vice President Biden told the president.
- ahhh even bettter... how "liberal" of you...********
- they called themselves teabaggers to begin with.spifflink
- ahhh even bettter... how "liberal" of you...
- locustsloth0
i am skeptical about whether he would actually know what "tea-bagger" meant. Most likely he confused the derogatory term (which i'm sure someone used around him) with the actual term. FFS it was in an interview, not a comment caught by an open mic or something. But go ahead and try to make hay of every little foible.
- ********0
New light shed on Kent State killings
http://www.washingtontimes.com/n…Previously undisclosed FBI documents suggest that the Kent State antiwar protests were more meticulously planned than originally thought and that one or more gunshots may have been fired at embattled Ohio National Guardsmen before their killings of four students and woundings of at least nine others on that searing day in May 1970.
As the nation marks the 40th anniversary of the Kent State antiwar protests Tuesday, a review of hundreds of previously unpublished investigative reports sheds a new — and very different — light on the tragic episode.
- shutsigg
- the fucksigg
- upsigg
- 2 of the students killed weren't even protesting, they were just walking to class.fooler2
- You really should be celebrating. Your Republican ideology has won no matter who's in office.IRNlun6
- Corporate interest supersedes the public interest. It's a done deal.IRNlun6
- h aha look at you guys and your own ideas, as soon as someone makes you think that your wrong, you get pissed********
- hmmm these "new facts" were investigated at the time. the national guard fired without orders. the closest wounded student was 71 feet away and the closest killed was over 200 feet away.danthon
- ... was 71 feet away and the closest death was 245 feet away.danthon
