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- BonSeff0
that is fair enough, pony, but that law is flawed in the fact that it is a civil rights violation. cops should have a reason to stop any person in this country other than probable cause of race. in a big picture, it sets a really bad precedent.
- PonyBoy0
That's the thing though, bon... nobody is gonna stop someone here in AZ for the color of their skin. If the police did that (and mind you... we have a healthy Hispanic presence in our Police Force) they'd never get any work done. :)
The only time someone is going to be asked for their proof of citizenship is when they're pulled over or stopped on the street for something they may have done (if it's something as petty as a taillight is out... so-be-it).
Now... are there a few racist asshole cops on the force? Yep... will there be a few incidents that are truly racist and over-the-top? Yep. But Isn't that already the case w/out this law? YEP. :)
I have no clue what to do about that - it's a shitty fact that it will happen from time to time... but it's not going to be like some disgusting nazi 'papers please' approach that would more than likely end up with someone being murdered or thrown away for life simply for their race.
Something has got to be done - and it needs to happen on a Federal level... and QUICK... else - more states will begin adopting the same time of law AZ finally put in play... and that's shitty.
- PonyBoy0
Mr. Burgundy!!!!!!! We would be honored if you played some Yazz Flute!!!
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"I would argue that the people migrating across our borders aren't competing for the same jobs our vast number of unemployed workers are. Do you want to work in the fields picking vegetables for below minimum wage?"If a man needs to feed his family - he will do whatever it takes. Also - these jobs that immigrants are taking on... when I was a kid - it was teenagers who used to do all that.
I worked on a farm as a kid... picking plants and moving vast amounts of feed to animals. I also worked the drive-thru in more than one fucking McDonald's when I was pimply lil teen... AND I bussed tables and washed dishes...
... saying there's no competition for the jobs they're coming up for is kinda silly. I think our country has gotten lazy as shit... especially our youth... it's no wonder so many Mexicans are being given these jobs.
- meanwhile the unemployment rate for college-age kids is ~50%.monNom
- BonSeff0
The next kiddo of a regular american fambly that pics onions for beer money will be the first. c'mon man!
- PonyBoy0
um... if you're old enough to buy beer... and you grew up in the States... there's really no reason you'd be picking onions unless it's the 1930's again and your last name is Joad. :)
... or else you're a fucking moron... jus' sayin'.
- ukit0
- Josev0
GM's grand announcement of paying off their loan early is misleading. It appears that GM has "repaid" the government with taxpayer's money. Money that was given to them as part of the TARP program and that was set aside in an escrow account.
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/05/0…
FROM THE ARTICLE:
"G.M. trumpeted its escape from the program as evidence that it had turned the corner in its operations. 'G.M. is able to repay the taxpayers in full, with interest, ahead of schedule, because more customers are buying vehicles like the Chevrolet Malibu and Buick LaCrosse,' boasted Edward E. Whitacre Jr., its chief executive.G.M. also crowed about its loan repayment in a national television ad and the United States Treasury also marked the moment with a press release: “We are encouraged that G.M. has repaid its debt well ahead of schedule and confident that the company is on a strong path to viability,” said Timothy F. Geithner, the Treasury secretary."
"Neil M. Barofsky, the inspector general overseeing the troubled asset program, revealed this detail when he spoke before the Senate Finance Committee on April 20.
“Neil M. Barofsky, the inspector general overseeing the troubled asset program, revealed this detail when he spoke before the Senate Finance Committee on April 20.
“So it’s good news in that they’re reducing their debt,” Mr. Barofsky said of G.M. But he went on to note that G.M. was using other taxpayer money to make the loan repayment, according to the transcript of his testimony."
- ukit0
http://www.politico.com/news/sto…
Arizona's immigration law has been an immediate hit with the Republican base, but some of the party’s top strategists and rising stars worry that the harsh crackdown may do long-term damage to the GOP in the eyes of America’s Hispanic population.
From Marco Rubio to Jeb Bush to Texas Gov. Rick Perry, Republicans who represent heavily Hispanic states have been vocal in their criticism of the Arizona law, saying it overreaches. Even Gov. Bob McDonnell of Virginia, a conservative hero for his win last fall, has questioned the law.
And the party’s long-term thinkers worry that the Arizona law is merely a quick political fix which may create a permanent rift with the fastest growing segment of the U.S. electorate.
“It’s like a virus that you get and you don’t feel like you’re unhealthy for the first few days, but after that you have a fever and you’re really sick,” says Matthew Dowd, former President George W. Bush’s chief strategist in 2004. “You can’t win a national election and you can’t win certain states without the Latino vote. And Republicans already had a problem.”
“I think there is going to be some constitutional problems with the bill,” top Bush strategist Karl Rove said during a stop on his book tour. “I wished they hadn't passed it, in a way.”
“I have concerns with portions of the law passed in Arizona and believe it would not be the right direction for Texas,” Perry said earlier this week.
Jeb Bush was also blunt: “I don't think this is the proper approach.”
- ronburgundy0
A little ham n'eggs comin' at ya PonyBoy...
I see your point, but what I'm saying is that in certain industries, say farm labor (especially in CA), we've grown dependent on our migrant workforce as a form of cheap labor. I really question whether or not employers would even hire someone outside of that pool knowing full well it's going to effect their bottom line. That's why I don't think folks coming across our border are really in competition - at least in certain industries.
- utopian0
NYPD: The surveillance video shows a white man in his 40s taking off one shirt, revealing another underneath.
Sounds like yet another Faux Fox Fringe News, Radical Right Wing Fundamentalist, God Fearing, Teabagger...
- joeth0
"[A clean energy bill] will spur innovation in energy efficiency that will actually lower the total amount you pay for driving, heating or cooling. It will reduce carbon pollution in the air we breathe and make us healthier as a country. It will reduce the money we are sending to nations that crush democracy and promote intolerance. It will strengthen the dollar. It will make us more energy secure, environmentally secure and strategically secure. Sure, our opponents will scream ‘carbon tax!’ Well, what do you think you’re paying now to OPEC? The only difference between me and my opponents is that I want to keep any revenue we generate here to build American schools, American highways, American high-speed rail, American research labs and American economic strength. It’s just a little tick I have: I like to see our spending build our country. They don’t care. They are perfectly happy to see all the money you spend to fill your tank or heat your home go overseas, so we end up funding both sides in the war on terrorism — our military and their extremists.”
- ********0
USA in 10 years
- utopian0
EUROPE today
- ukit0
Futures Bets Against Euro Hit Record High
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/ne…
Futures traders are more bearish than ever on the euro as Greece’s fiscal crisis spreads, suggesting further declines ahead for Europe’s shared currency.
The euro has depreciated 7.6 percent this year, including last week’s 0.7 percent loss, as concern the sovereign debt crisis will slow Europe’s economy reduced confidence in a region whose $13.6 trillion gross domestic product is exceeded only by the U.S.
“The main risk flowing from the sovereign stress is that European banks will curtail credit to each other and to private borrowers in a way similar to the post-Lehman bankruptcy fallout”
- yawn... Norway is not in EU and has own currency********
- krone magnumutopian
- yawn... Norway is not in EU and has own currency
- ukit0
A New Deal for broadband?
http://arstechnica.com/tech-poli…
M2Z Networks has been trying to pitch a plan to the FTC to deploy free wireless broadband internet, now with the backing of the County Executives association.
"If the association gets its requested $122 million in community infrastructure funds, it will partner with M2Z to roll out the service to 13 participating counties, their residents, and the respective regional public safety agencies. From there, the venture, if it wins funding, will extend free wireless across the nation, county by county."
- ********0
A woman in a hot air balloon realized she was lost. She lowered her
altitude and spotted a man in a boat below. She shouted
to him, "Excuse me, can you help me? I promised a friend I would
meet him an hour ago, but I don't know where I am."The man consulted his portable GPS and replied, "You're in a hot air
balloon, approximately 30 feet above a ground elevation of 2,346
feet above sea level. You are at 31 degrees, 14..97 minutes north
latitude and 100 degrees, 49.09 minutes west longitude..She rolled her eyes and said, "You must be a Republican."
"I am," replied the man. "How did you know?"
"Well," answered the balloonist, "everything you told me is
technically correct. But I have no idea what to do with
your information, and I'm still lost. Frankly, you've not been much
help to me."The man smiled and responded, "You must be an Obama Democrat."
"I am," replied the balloonist. "How did you know?""Well," said the man, "you don't know where you are or where you
are going. You've risen to where you are, due to a large quantity of
hot air. You made a promise you have no idea how to keep, and
you expect me to solve your problem. You're in exactly the same
position you were in before we met, but somehow, now it's my fault."- did you get this FWDd to you by my 65 year old midwestern father in law too?fooler2
- oh cnapsRamanisky2
- that joke was funnier when it was an engineer vs. manager joke... from 1998.sigg
- funny shit like this is shared though it is only a story...quack
- ********0
catchy tune
- I worked on that show. Good times.luckyorphan
- doing what?********
- Character Designer.luckyorphan
- PonyBoy0
Is this oil spill gonna put BP out of business?
It sounds as if the Gov's gonna hold them accountable for just about anything that gets disrupted (fishing... shipping lanes etc... all these companies may be compensated by BP in the end)... ... and it's gonna a be minimum of 90's days (they think) before they cap the leakage... sounds like BP is screwed.
- dunno but i filled up both cars yesterday because to make up for their loss i bet they jack up pricessigg
