Global Warming?
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- designbot0
I am scared of what the other implications will be. Things that we cannot presently see. I am also frightened of an alternative agenda attached to it. Rise in Oil costs has been a great thing because it has driven much innovation in the US. But what if because of policies passed as a result of global warming we had to start paying $15 for a gallon of gas? what if they taxed the hell out of us to "lower carbon emissions" or put a limit on how many children we can have? This might be far fetched but I don't think the outcome will be just to pollute less.
- lowimpakt0
here is some sand for you to bury your head in.
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- mrdobolina0
Status Quo people piss me off.
- mrdobolina0
You talk about political agendas and I just know you are purposely leaving out the word 'liberal'.
As if the republican party aren't just shills for the monied interests in Washington. Everyone has an agenda, the other side of it is to make money at whatever cost. You demonize one and give the other a pass. Makes no sense.
- designbot0
Dude, I am definitely a conservative as you might think. I don't attach a particular party to issues like this. And I hate the word liberal.
- designbot0
* I am definitely NOT a conservative.
(had to retype that...ouch)
- mrdobolina0
to think that the global warming thing is all Al Gore and Al Gore's opinions is ignorant. You attach all of this doom and gloom to it and use it as a reason to stand up for the same old same old. Polluting less and using renewable resources is a good thing.
- designbot0
I see what you are saying and agree. I guess there has been so many similar doom type scenarios that it is really hard not to be super cynical. It is sad but I think the green party is purposely using issues like this to push their agenda. Their good intentions have turned into being deceptive.
On a personal level, everytime I go hiking in the mountains I see peoples trash and bottles even in the most remote areas and that really gets to me. I don't ever litter and try and recycle as much as possible among other things, but it certainly isn't because I think the earth will end if I don't.
- lowimpakt0
how many doom type scenarios have there been?
The cuban missile crisis?
Ozone layer?
Russia in general?
Saddam's WMD?
- designbot0
Asteroids striking earth
Peak Oil
Giant Tsunami
Peak Coal
Terrorist attack
Micro black holes
Aliens? hah I know there are plenty more....
- designbot0
Here is Wikipedia's list:
* A global pandemic.[3]
* A geological event such as massive flood basalt, volcanism, or the eruption of a supervolcano. One such event, the Toba Eruption, occurred in Indonesia about 71,500 years ago. According to the Toba catastrophe theory, the event may have reduced human populations to only a few tens of thousands of individuals. Yellowstone Caldera is another such supervolcano, having undergone at 142 or more caldera-forming eruptions in the past 17 million years.[4]
* A gamma ray burst or other devastating blast of cosmic radiation.[5] One especially deadly hypothesized source is a hypernova, produced when a hypergiant star explodes and then collapses, sending vast amounts of radiation sweeping across hundreds or even thousands of lightyears of space. Hypernovae have never been observed; however, a hypernova may have been the cause of the Ordovician-Silurian extinction events. The nearest hypergiant is thought to be Eta Carinae, approximately 8,000 light-years distant.
* An abrupt reorientation of Earth's axis of rotation.[6]
* A drastic increase or decrease in the Sun's energy output. The Sun's tidal forces can also eventually swallow the Earth, then shed its outer layers in an explosion if the Earth has not been swallowed.
* An impact event caused by the collision of a large meteoroid, asteroid, or comet with Earth. A common theory postulates that the extinction of the dinosaurs occurred approximately 65 million years ago as a result of the Cretaceous-Tertiary extinction event when a large asteroid struck the earth, producing atmospheric dust which blocked solar energy and caused a significant lowering of temperatures worldwide. Evidence for this theory includes a sedimentary layer of iridium in the geological record and a large crater in the area of Chicxulub, Mexico. The Tunguska event (1908) was on a much smaller scale.
* A sudden change in the physical constants governing the universe, such as that created by a Vacuum metastability event.[7]
* The effect of a black hole on the planet Earth.[8]
* An exceptionally devastating hypercane.
* A universal Big Rip or Big Crunch ("Gnab Gib").
* Severe global warming or other climate change, can also be caused by anthropogenic sources.
- KwesiJ0
thing is there's already very real and documented effects of global warming, its not just doom and gloom. the green party are the ones talking about them, i've rarely heard them go into the fear tactics because they have no real reason to when its evident.
- ********0
So... who's winning? I kinda lost track some twelve hundred thousand posts ago.
- scrap_paper0
I think it is extremely dangerous to have the mindset that the earth was created for man. Whatever belief system it comes from. It is just plain selfish.
If anything we, with our oh so wonderful intellect, should consider ourselves earths custodians and focus on how to maintain life on this planet as opposed to praying to the all mighty dollar and finding new great ways to fuck everything up.
- I'm not very religious, but I if I'm not mistaken no religion says Earth was created for Man.********
- Genesis 1:26 ?lowimpakt
- no, thinking we are in control of the earth is selfish. We have no control except what has been given to us.designbot
- "No control"? Look at the smog in China. Didn't people create that?jjoeth6
- no shit, china is a prime example of reasons to pollute less.mrdobolina
- I'm not very religious, but I if I'm not mistaken no religion says Earth was created for Man.
- TheBlueOne0
Still not responding to this thread.
- Good choice:)ukit
- +0.99999999999999999...Jnr_Madison
- that's not a blank vote, and you know it.********
- jjoeth60
This was posted before and I'll post it again. If you haven't watched it all, please do.
We do not need to know for sure if the (vast majority of) scientists are right. We should live, work, and vote more sustainably because the possible alternative would not be pretty. Don't worry, the conservatives will make sure none of your personal liberties get taxed too outrageously.
- Plus all the other benefits of green previously mentioned in this thread.jjoeth6
- jjoeth60
While I'm at it, I'll post the link to the other thing that made me certain we need massive change. This 20-minute video has a lot to do with the environment, but they don't even need to get into Global Warming...
Lot's of crap that you sort of know is going on, but it might not quite register until you see it all at once.
- KwesiJ0
ok its official this is the most redundant conversation in the history of the intersphere
- ********0
The wealthy politicians control the world, money, oil, resources, etc...
Do you actually they really give a fuck about global warming?NO!
- Your point is? Give up... it's not worth fighting for?jjoeth6