SF or NYC
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- monkeyshine0
Though tact is missing...izaway has a point. Rather than make judgments though, it goes back to totally different vibes. In my experience people tend to be either an East Coast or West personality. Being in SF, though beautiful, drove me crazy. I'm too Type A and I love the frenetic energy of NYC.
One of my favorite things about NYC is that people can be very abrupt, quick to chew your ass but they might be the same people you'd have a drink with five minutes later...or get directions from.
- onewhoslaps0
One of my favorite things about NYC is that people can be very abrupt, quick to chew your ass but they might be the same people you'd have a drink with five minutes later...or get directions from.
monkeyshine
(Oct 28 07, 11:48)that sounds like a personal problem.
i personally like to have drinks with people that aren't chewing on my ass or being a dick/cunt.
- monkeyshine0
that sounds like a personal problem.
i personally like to have drinks with people that aren't chewing on my ass or being a dick/cunt.
onewhoslaps
(Oct 28 07, 11:59)ha! It's true. The point is what you see is what you get. Unlike the South where they will douse you with their southern hospitality, nod in agreement, call you darlin while they plot your demise. I'm a southerner, I know! :)
- sea_sea0
In California in general you can feel the uncultured americana ignorance of the masses.
izaway
(Oct 28 07, 10:58)One of the dumbest things I have heard all week.
morilla
(Oct 28 07, 11:10)yikes! i agree, one of the most "ignorant" comments of the week! lol
- izaway0
"In California in general you can feel the uncultured americana ignorance of the masses."
Of course this statement is really pissing people off and I understand. Sheez, I did say upfront that I was going to be 'harsh'. Remember 'wealthy white trash minds'. I'm just speaking in obnoxious poetic sweeping general terms here. Purposefully being obnoxious. Obviously. Whatever, I don't give a fuck. I was trying the make the point that it feels as if people in NY at all levels of society are more well traveled and more cultured.
Those are just my impressions though. As a New Yorker visiting California it very often has a prefabricated lost in too many american cliches that need to die vibe.
People in these forums are always asking should I move to NYC or California (Somewhere).
Well, I just thought I'd give you my thoughts straight from the fucking hip. Cause I've lived in both places. Most people here have no idea what NYC is or what it's really about to live and work here. All, I ever hear is about how crowded it is or how small your apartment is. Always bullshit. People never go on about the fucking music of the place. The fucking art and the opportunities all of which are just off the hook. Did you know that temp working as an admin
can easily be making $18 and hour or more? Enough to better yourself and rise to the next level. NY is like that. If you are smart and do your shit right you will win. Period. You don't have to have a degree or family connections, or good luck to get ahead here. You can use your mind no matter who you are. Remember that kids.I'm out.
btw fuck the masses.
- Llyod0
"If you are smart and do your shit right you will win. Period."
I take it you lose. Socal, where you lived, is much different than Norcal.
- onewhoslaps0
wow.
we'll you would be one reason not to move to NYC if that's where you are.
"You don't have to have a degree or family connections, or good luck to get ahead here. You can use your mind no matter who you are. Remember that kids."
Thanks Aristotle!
teehee
- Jaline0
Screw this thread.
Come to Canada!
:P
- onewhoslaps0
and your profile picture just gave me a seizure. thanks.
- ********0
either/both
- raiden0
thanks for the responses.
i was born in vancouver, but raised mostly in Montreal, which for many of you WASPs and North American media is considered "more european". heh. So consider me an east coster.
I've work in NYC for 3 months. but i think i've had my dose of it. I was recently in SF, and loved it. I like the landscape, it inspires me. My move is motivated by my being an artist, and work second, and quality of life. I know first hand that the New York electronic music and digital arts scene is not as progressive as New York's. NYC is all about indie rock and forms of hip hop, and a some experimentalism, but the prevailing ethos seems to be "don't experiment, or you won't be famous". which i know from many SF established artists is the nyc compromise of living in a big city. the nyc electronic music is non-existant compared to montreal's. heh.
i love nyc too though very much, and love the microcosms of people. but i think the excess of people gets to me. it numbs me. i guess it's not a place i want to call home for now?
I know SF also has a hefty does of bourgeois, and that's fine by me. i can live in my own bubble. heh. and being homosexual, it's interesting to know that the gay population there is at a critical mass to foster interesting fags that don't necessarily subscribe to gay culture.
- raiden0
whoops i made some serious typos. i'm tired and am on 3 beers.. anyway, i think you guys get what i mean.
basically, i'm moving to anywhere that has a good digital arts scene. so on American soil, i guess that's mostly SF. On european soil, that means Berlin.
hmmm
- Jaline0
raiden, from everything you've said, I think SF is the best place you should try out right now (from what I've heard).
You make a good case for yourself.
By the way, Vancouver is often used to replicate LA in films ;)
- chose10
I've been to both, NYC is dog eat dog. Greater quality of life in SF, fyi. I've been in NY all of my life and considering a move to SF... it's wonderful out there. I've got photos on my flickr account on my trip there :)
- ********0
I was trying the make the point that it feels as if people in NY at all levels of society are more well traveled and more cultured.
izaway
(Oct 28 07, 12:51)There's another one for the list of quotes.
- jevad0
SF all the way
- madirish0
I was trying the make the point that it feels as if people in NY at all levels of society are more well traveled and more cultured.
izaway
(Oct 28 07, 12:51)you do realize, that apprx 21% of ALL people living in teh U.S. have passports, right?
go to SF. try it, see for yourself. if you are on a 3 -month move track anyway, what's the harm?
I like SF, I like NYC. lived in one, been to other countless times. neither are for me any longer, but both have their strengths. but i am always amazed to hear NYers describe NYC as anything less than Utopia. it cracks me up.
- Ampersanderson0
you heart nyc.
i personally hate sf and live in nyc.
- Mimio0
SF is really great, but its like a giant small town. New York is a real city, the "metropolis of your dreams."
- ********0
somehow these city threads are my favourite. lol.