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- plastipop0
it's interesting to get so many opinions about peoples motives when the original broadcast was simply a request for some christian bands...
...if you are truely interested in discussing christian topics, try this site: http://www.relevantmagazine.com/…
- ********0
i'm exactly bashing christian rock for the label.
it's so stupid labelling a music genre after a fucking relgion. A religion that had nothing specific to do with the development of that music in the first place. It tries to say so many things. Why would i want to give it a chance? What cos the music is SOOOO amazing that it'll change everything? Umm, somehow i don't think so.
And froww... good for you. I have no interst in your faith whatsoever, and honestly do not want to hear about it preached to me or sung to me, or anything. I find it extremely patronising. I'll react the same way if all 50cent did was try and sell me Reebok shoes (yes i am equating corporations to this branded way "christianity" is being marketed).
I guess there's lots of Benjamins to be made. Massive market, especially puritanical america. People who still feel guilty about listening to normal punk, or hip-hop etc.. cos its "the devils music", are comforted when something announces itself defiantly Christian
Culture is so frivolous.
- xaoscontrol0
you haven;t listend to too much under the CCM label, then, Glen.
there are bands that do praise and worship style which is the music you make fun of and there is the music that speaks of the same thing kinds of things as most other music does. they just do it with more restraint.
the church has evolved. there's nothing wrong with that
- glenroy0
ahhh, i knew someone would jump on that one... :)
there are holes to be found in everything, no? life just isn't black and white. that song, particularly buckley's way of doing it, is beauty to me. it has no connection to cohen or anything un-beautiful i could tie to him. isn't that the beauty of art? you see a painting and say "beautiful", even tho the artist was insane as hell two centuries ago...
- froww0
I suppose its just much easier to compartmentalize and stereotype... provides a sense of secturity for some, I suppose. Unfortunately, not everything fits into such tidy little boxes.
- ********0
yeha glen, i only heard it couple of weeks ago. This girl i was with made me listen to it, 'twas a beautiful moment.
- unfittoprint0
glenroy, u misundersood me. Grace is one my favourite albums, and Hallelujah is probably #2 song in that same album.
I'm just sayin' one shouldnt' confuse that with Händel's spiritual creation. Has nothing to do with that.
And I bow to the that fallen angel that is Leonard Cohen.
btw, check Rufu's version:
http://people.brandeis.edu/~rkra…
- glenroy0
xaoscontrol, dude, i appreciate what you are saying, but don't tell me "i haven't listened"... i wrote reviews for a christian paper, i ran a volunteer rock radio program weekly for 4 years, i have helped stage the largest christian music festival in canada for a few years now... i know the bands and the genres and the people in the bands themselves. i doubt we can really get to the point in a string like this. worship music as it looks in record stores today is just the tail end of a trend of the past 6 years.
nor have i made fun of anyone. i still do worship music in churches with some friends and have been on some worshp recordings.
i guess i'm saying be careful when making an interesting discussion get personal.
- xaoscontrol0
I see your point, Glen. No offense taken. It's all good. :)
- Mimio0
Froww, a lot of people see Christians as compartimentalizing themselves, rebadging music, books etc. to suit their puritanitcal outlook on life. I think that's really the main thing being discussed here. To some of us, calling something "Christian Punk" is just as preposterous as creating something called "Christian Blues". On more than one level it shows the the total misunderstanding of the musical form and it's roots.
- glenroy0
unfittoprint, my apology then. i see your sly humor now :)
true dat,... handel doesn't get me off tho, so i'll stick with buckley-cohen...
i'll check that version out for sure.
- froww0
Mimio, I think the western fluff marketing and commercialization of Christian product (or "holy hardware") is ridiculous as well. My point is that these machines do not (at least should not) represent those who are authentic in their faith and desire to express it artistically. "Chrisitan Punk" is silly for sure.
- aesthetics0
im lazy to browse through to check but switchfoot is swweet.
- glenroy0
i should really get back to work.
i guess i'm on a mission to break down the compartmentalizing in my life lately. i think its a plague on religion, and has affected my life that way. perhaps then i get into these discussions to try and do so for others. not necessarily my business to do so though.
its been a slice kids...
- xaoscontrol0
Glen...I was hasty....I wasn't trying to get personal. I said what I did based on a judgement that I had read. My bad.
Mimio has made an interesting point about Christian's being seen as compartmentalizing themselves. I agree. I come from a non-denomnational line of thought that tells that as well. As a christian, I have convictions on music. There's stuff I'm not comfortable with...and that's fine. BUT, unlike those christians who would rather freak out and shun mainstream radio/tv/literature/press in order to keep themselves on the right path, I feel that putting myself in a box weakens me.
I can't grow in that sense if I ONLY listen to the christian stations locally (which suck, btw), thusly, I've had to seek out the style of music that I like, that I can get into and get the same message from. In my exploration of that 'genre', I've found that even though there are those praise bands, like Disciple, there are also those bands that sing about the struggle's of life and living and love.
- froww0
We all wear a label.
- ********0
I wear Diesel.
"Today we work hard to do the shopping"
- ********0
well, at least for parents, when something is labelled "christian" then they can probably expect no profanity, good content, Biblical lyrics, etc.
I know a DJ who spins Christian techno. now since there are no/few lyrics, what makes it Christian? its just his outlook, the samples he uses, his whole reason for doing it. to glorify God in music, or to bring people together.
that is why you might actually find "Christian Blues."
- plastipop0
we should all meet up at http://www.cornerstonefestival.c… there are thousands of people, tons of music, it's really a great time.
- xaoscontrol0
I tell you what blows me away is when I happen to go to a christian book store and look in the music section and then find a band on the shelf that I'd heard alot about in the mainstream media.
Example bands:
Kings X, Galactic Cowboys, Trouble (which I never knew was a christian band untill Dave Grohl mentioned it on the Probot website)Robert Randolph and the Family Band (which ROCKS, BTW)