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- sinisnap0
im scared...what dimension have i slipped into?
- ********0
Cliff Richard
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(aug 17 04, 09:44)
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bahahahahaaa!
- jg_20
trouble used to be a good christian band. they played doom (thats one music label)
instead of black metal white metal. hahahaha. a big stupid joke.
christians can be funny, sometimes. Just sometimes
- glenroy0
interesting thread: inevitable of course. so many holes to expose in christians, so little time.
i'm just hearing a lot of typical interpretations of "christian".
is there really such thing as 'good' or 'bad' christian? Are you defined by what you do/don't do, or who you believe in?
and musicians have always platformed. personally, its not for me. for the artist, the medium is everything. otherwise i'd only be building christian websites for christians, just because i believe in God.
so much to say, so little patience for typing...
- glenroy0
and kudos to:
stryper, cliff richard, and some other funny quotes i can't remember right now...i think anyone searching for authentic music will reject most of the christian 'genre' as quickly as they reject the mainstream...
- ********0
innit glen,
louis armstrong sung about god. even fucking david bowie's song, word on a wing is like some prayer "Lord, my prayer flies like a word on a wing, i'm trying hard to fit amongst your scheme of things."
Music is music is music.
- ********0
I dont see why they have to label themselves Christian Rock. Like they're putting boundaries on their music - "uh, we only sing about our faith cos we're gonna preach to you, and that's ALL we're gonna do, preach to you fuckers and spread the message about something outside us".
I can totally respect artists who sing about god, as many do, in a personal way of expressing their own feelings. That's artist expression. But these fuckers, that's ALL they do. We're on a mission from god to convert you! yeah, fuck off church boy!
*note, i've never heard any christian rock, and don't really know what they're about. Just the name and what i read in this thread seems kinda informative :P
- glenroy0
word Kuz,
when i hear jeff buckleys version of cohen's 'hallelujah'... shivers...
i grew up believing in God, and thinking that meant that any music not on a christian label was going to make me "backslide" and go bad... i know people who still think that way...
christian labels are all owned by large mainstream labels. the people in the offices, writing checks and hiring/firing, they are 'christians'... its business...
- ********0
oh yes, that Jeff Buckley song is something special :)
- ********0
I listen to Paul Wright, relient K, Five Iron Frenzy, a few others.
Christian bands sometimes get away with copycat style musically, but also there are some innovative bands pushing the envelope of music by creating art. Check out a local Florida band I love:
http://www.bernardmusic.com/As far an punk Christians, this is an evolution of punk. Punk isn't just about one thing (nihilism or whatever) just like rock n roll isn't about one thing. Christians punkers have plenty to be angry about just like any other humans. Maybe they are singing about injustice, or a personal tradgedy or whatever. You can't limit punk rock just cause you dont think it's appropriate to a people with a certain belief system. Christian punk isn't about tearing stuff down and anarchy. I think it's about building up and living life to its full and NOT being limited by following Christ.
- glenroy0
Kuz.
alot of my friends *rock*, but to be honest, none of them would call themselves christians, though they all believe in God wholeheartedly... its just a dirty word to them now.
the labeling themselves thing... its just been the thing to do for many many moons now - its the whole keeping-separate thing, "in the world but not of it"... but the premise is obviously flawed and tranparently weak.
that would lead me into an entire discussion on the nature of the person, the artist, and the purpose of life... it go on forever...
- ********0
the music stores slap the labels on. most Christian bands fight that label cause they don't want to be written off as "...just a Christian band" meaning less good musically.
"note, i've never heard any christian rock, and don't really know what they're about. Just the name and what i read in this thread seems kinda informative " well there you go. give it a listen and then see what it's about
- xaoscontrol0
Glen...you're only bashing christian music because of it's title. grow up.
It makes me wonder how many people would stop listening to an artist if they found out that artist was christian...that's as insane as dropping an artist from your collection because he/she is gay.
- algorithm0
jesus built my hotrod
- glenroy0
i think its funny, the discussion over 'christian punk' or the oxymoron some seem it to be...
those who dismiss it because of what punk 'really means' are really using the same argument - they equate a style of music to something larger, a lifestyle, a purpose... which is exactly the premise which they are dismissing in christian music.
- froww0
There are bands that have Christians in them and sing about whatever... and there are bands that view the music as the vehicle for sharing their faith, exclusively. Both are equally valid, IMO. I find it interesting that the latter is viewed as some kind of extremist, militant group with some insidious agenda. That's silly. If something or someone has radically changed your heart/life, you'll likely want to share that with others... it's that simple really.
Let's check ourselves on the propaganda we regurgitate that may not be based in truth.
- unfittoprint0
"when i hear jeff buckleys version of cohen's 'hallelujah'... shivers... "
that cover of Hallelujah is from Leonard Cohen. And it's not a naive hymn of love.
Leonard, a man that makes anal sex sounds like the most romantic thing on earth.
- glenroy0
i didn't think i was bashing it man, sorry if you thot so. i grew up with it. i know it inside out. i am friends with dudes in nashville and LA and around Canada who are in christian music. what i am saying is that i recognize the faultiness of what the title implies. no bashing. i work with musicians. i run an indie record label and half of them are faith-driven people, but not 'christian musicians' as the name and history of the business has implied. those are facts. but i work with some people who are made for that world, even if its not for me.
i often feel that christians are too defensive, especially when it comes to criticism from other believers. i don't want to tear down anyone's work. but we can all look at ourselves and our work with honest eyes.
i would never choose to listen to anyone based on who they say the are... gay or christian. but when their message is more important than the music, gay or christian or muslim or redneck or whatever they come up with - i just tend to shy away. i'm not into agendas.
- unfittoprint0
Shawn Ryder's hallelujah.
http://plura.pt/misc/nt/happy_mo…finding Him while doin' E's.