web designer & programmer
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- plizo
Man some ppl on craigslist.org need to know the difference between a web designer and web programmer.. I am sick of seeing web designer position that needs to know PHP,Mysql, Javascript,XML blah blah....
Some ppl just dont get it.... that finding someone that can design with skill.... doesnt have the programming skills... I mean there are ppl out there that do both that are good.. but that is uncommon... I think..
Just sick of lame ass job post that require all that shit for a designer....If your looking for a designer then post designer... but if your looking for a programmer then post that shit... dumb fucks..
- jox0
I think that more often than not, but not so-oo much. Gnr gnrr...
- plizo0
Yeah let me know when u find someone that designs with such skill and programs really good too that will take a job for 40,000....
lol
- plizo0
Or corporate Logo for our company for 100 dollars....
I love those posts.. those are the best...
ha ha ha
- jox0
whatever. it's always been like that. what were you doing on craiglist anyway, its the one place on the internet were clients and designers try to outdumb eachother - the so-called "clients" don't know what they're asking for and the so-called "designers" don't know what the hell they're doing.
- gabriel_pc0
you're making a pretty big assumption when you say that people know the difference between a web developer and a web designer. I'd guess that the average person wouldn't know the difference at all.
- plizo0
Hey Jox,
Out dumb each other... Um I am a respectful designer and have found some great leads and jobs on there.. There is just a lot of ppl who dont know how to post thats all... and want logos for 25-100 dollars.. and shit..
- plizo0
Plus Jox, your in sweden so how would u know about craigslist and all.. anyways...
- kodap0
100 dollas is worth a look-for scratches on my hd and type the company lettering in 5 seconds, then give it as a .gif
- plizo0
You should see some of the posts.... 100 dollars is pretty good for some... Some companies want one for 25.00 dollars.... wow did Fedex get that logo for that cheap....
lol
- Monk0
It’s call multitasks!
- plizo0
No its called idiot out there that dont know shit about the industry when they post on craigslist..
- JamesEngage0
I didn't relaise how good the fed ex logo is till someone pointed out the arrow that is hidden within it... boy I must be stupid!
- quik0
what is a 'web' designer who can't code at all?
a print designer!
a web developer does not design at all, but if you want to call yourself a web designer you should be able to hold your own with the code.
whineing bitches
- r_gaberz0
haha
I've never noticed the arrow in the FedEx logo until now!
Thanks James
- ribit0
I wouldn't think 'web designer' necessarily requires coding ability...
We're looking for people to help develop our site (when we can afford it), and we would be looking for a designer (for graphics/look-and-feel/interacti... structure). Maybe this is also 'information architect'... but certainly not just a 'print designer', even if they can't code.
We would also be looking for a programmer for all the PHP/MySQL stuff. It would be nice to have all these skills in one person, but do they exist?
- quik0
We would also be looking for a programmer for all the PHP/MySQL stuff. It would be nice to have all these skills in one person, but do they exist?
ribit
(may 16 04, 03:30)I try.
- Sumpa0
A web designer who can't code at all isn't the same as a print designer! Thats a lameass statement!
A decent webdesigner doesn't need to know that much code, but he does have to know about information architecture, usability and so on. A print designer moving over to web makes shitty sites most of the times because he/she still makes brochures, and that NOT the way one should present information on the web.
Most serious companys will have designers that works closely with developers and usability ppl, rather than one person making everything. That way the customer is guaranteed a good result.
Everone can learn Photoshop. Not every developer is equally good at design and a designer is very seldom good at coding/scripting.
If a company is looking for someone that can both code and design, they are likely to end up with a developer that is poor at design. But hey, the company only needed to hire one guy instead of two...
- ribit0
And I think we would rather hire two part time specialiists for our projects anyway, rather than have to search for a single fiull-time person who can cover the whole range of requirements... Now all we need is to be able to afford any of this...
- unfittoprint0
more knowledge == more skills == more opportunities == more $$
it's your choice.
- plizo0
You said it right Sumpa, and quik nobody is bitching but claiming a print designer can do what a web designer can do.. well you need to double check your facts man... Thats saying a web designer knows all about pantone colors, cmyk and so on..
so dont state unless u know ..