web designer & programmer
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- brandelec0
WHO THE HELL HIRES A WEB DESIGNER THAT CAN'T CODE!!
- brandelec0
whoa, my caps was on ;)
- tfsmag0
enobrev has it right ^
- plizo0
Are you kidding TFSMAG, tons of studios hire a designer to just do a look and feel.. A designer concepts it all out, makes it look good.. then hands that over to a developer that then cuts everything up and codes it for both platforms..
Obviously u have never worked fora big firm before..
- tfsmag0
it doesn't matter who i've worked for a 'developer' usually isn't responsible for html and css?
- brandelec0
plizo, pliz think before you type
- tfsmag0
a web 'designer' needs to be able to work with html and css code. i don't know where you've worked but thats the way its been everywhere that i've worked.
- nicora20
Never heard of a web designer that couldn't convert PSD files to HTML/CSS templates. If you can't do at LEAST that, I would imagine you'll have a difficult time finding a job.
- brandelec0
plizo, pliz don't be bitter just because you can't code...
throw it in reverse for thirst (i just wanted to say that)
- nicora20
yes plizo, hit rewind before tfsmag ejects you...
- tfsmag0
bwhahahaha
- plizo0
Who said I couldnt code... I can figure it out just fine.. I just prefer not too, I got peeps that do that for me all day.. that acually enjoy coding.. I hand them over all the rollover states and shit like that.... and then they do their magic with it.. for cross platform...
and quote from tksmag:
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it doesn't matter who i've worked for a 'developer' usually isn't responsible for html and css?"a developer isnt gonna do html or css really... wow..
- plizo0
And Brandelec, you need to throw in reverse with your one post in here.. and not even knowing what is going on....
- tfsmag0
not where i work dude, html and css is done by the designer, who hands it over to the developer who works with the files and inserts the backend scripting (php, asp, etc)
- brandelec0
plizo, pliz don't be an idiot
- tfsmag0
but hey, obviously you have me schooled on this since i don't work for a 'big' firm. ;)
- brandelec0
ya, and i should stay out of it, because i'm a designer, so i shouldn't code, which means i don't know how to read so i don't know what's going on in this thread... oh no i've gone cross-eyed
- plizo0
bump
- nicora20
I still say it makes no sense for a web designer to not code HTML/CSS. I have only worked in small firms, so maybe I am missing something, but I do know that whereever I have worked a web designer would not be considered for a job unless they have some knowlege in what makes up the web. To design the web does not just mean "good photshop skills". You need to understand information delivery and layout concepts that are unique to the internet. I find it hard to believe one could do this effectively without an understanding of the technology. It's like having 3 people hang a picture, one to hold the nail another to hammer it and a third to hang the picture. I don't know about anyone else, but I'd rather have someone who can handle that him/herself.
- jox0
Well said nicora.
Again, I stand by my opinion. You may be the first designer ever who considers himself "professional" but don't know how to turn his website into a, um ..website. Sorry, thats just incredible. So what do you do when you work with freelance accounts? Do you just tell the client "here's a couppla PSD's, now just go find a html coder and then maybe someone else to make style sheets and you'll have your site up in no time? Oh, and btw, you might also need a 4th guy for cross-browser development. And maybe a 5th for resolution debugging. Hell, make that six, somebody needs to upload it to the server when the rest finished up."