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- What a fuckwit he is.BusterBoy
- One of the rare things he’s saying that isn’t fake newsshapesalad
- "Asshole words - i want to be accurate about where they come from"scruffics
- utopian1
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- SteveJobs-2
Japanese flu drug 'clearly effective' in treating coronavirus, says China
https://www.theguardian.com/worl…
Medical authorities in China have said a drug used in Japan to treat new strains of influenza appeared to be effective in coronavirus patients, Japanese media said on Wednesday.
Zhang Xinmin, an official at China’s science and technology ministry, said favipiravir, developed by a subsidiary of Fujifilm, had produced encouraging outcomes in clinical trials in Wuhan and Shenzhen involving 340 patients.
“It has a high degree of safety and is clearly effective in treatment,” Zhang told reporters on Tuesday.
Patients who were given the medicine in Shenzhen turned negative for the virus after a median of four days after becoming positive, compared with a median of 11 days for those who were not treated with the drug, public broadcaster NHK said.
- HijoDMaite5
I have my wife and two daughters, plus our little doggo. Wife works for the Hilton Corp. her job is done. She’ll be filling out UI paperwork tomorrow. Youngest girl is a junior in HS, plays the trumpet in band and is on the softball team. Her school year is done, until November they are saying. Oldest daughter is in her freshman year of college and her classes are done until November too. She is coming home.
Six months ago I changed careers and got in to retail. I am a manager at a supercenter Walmart to be exact. So my job is super secure right now. All of us salaried managers are now working 12 on 12 off six days a week! Sales are BONKERS! Last Friday we did three days in a row of $550k per day. Those are Black Friday numbers! Our associates and management are likely to see some great bonuses if the home office doesn’t decide to restructure shit.
Work has been a zoo. It’s a mixed bag of crazed customers doing their idiotic shit and awesome customers behaving decently and thanking us for what we are doing. Today I almost got punched by a customer because I wouldn’t let my guys pull out pallets of water to the floor until we were ready. We have to organize things or customers just bum rush the items. He started to film me while I was telling him to wait, then he just ran in the back room receiving area to film all the water in the back. Saying, “this guy won’t sell me water”.
After a little while we finished setting up and were ready to bring it out. I found the guy in the store and told him to come back and he would be the first in line to get two cases of water. He then told me that he had posted the video on Snapchat and that one of his friends commented, “bro that’s my boy Javier, he’s cool don’t fuck with him” lol no idea who that was.So basically that has been my week. I know people are scared but does anyone else love the chaos? I fucking love it. I’m glued to the news lol. I don’t really live in fear of anything so I have faith that things are going to work out in the end.
- You're lucky to have this useful job right now. But many of today jobs are useless in this time of crisis.
Be safe.ekael
- You're lucky to have this useful job right now. But many of today jobs are useless in this time of crisis.
- utopian0
17 diseases named after populations or places:
West Nile Virus
Named after the West Nile District of Uganda discovered in 1937.Guinea Worm
Named by European explorers for the Guinea coast of West Africa in the 1600s.Rocky Mountain Spotted Fever
Named after the mountain range spreading across western North America first recognized first in 1896 in Idaho.Lyme Disease
Named after a large outbreak of the disease occurred in Lyme and Old Lyme, Connecticut in the 1970s.Ross River Fever
Named after a mosquito found to cause the disease in the Ross River of Queensland, Australia by the 1960s. The first major outbreak occurred in 1928.Omsk Hemorrhagic Fever
Named after its 1940s discovery in Omsk, Russia.Ebola Hemorrhagic Fever
Named in 1976 for the Ebola River in Zaire located in central Africa.Middle East Respiratory Syndrome (MERS)
Also known as “camel flu,” MERS was first reported in Saudi Arabia in 2012 and all cases are linked to those who traveled to the Middle Eastern peninsula.Valley Fever
Valley Fever earned its nickname from a 1930s outbreak San Joaquin Valley of California, though its first case came from Argentina.Marburg Virus Disease
Named after Marburg, Germany in 1967.Norovirus
Named after Norwalk, Ohio after an outbreak in 1968.Zika Fever
First discovered in 1947 and named after the Zika Forest in Uganda.Japanese Encephalitis
Named after its first case in Japan in 1871.German Measles
Named after the German doctors who first described it in the 18th century. The disease is also sometimes referred to as “Rubella.”Spanish Flu
While the true origins of the Spanish Flu remain unknown, the disease earned its name after Spain began to report deaths from the flu in its newspapers.Lassa Fever
Named after the being found in Lassa, Nigeria in 1969.Legionnaire’s Disease
Named in 1976 following an outbreak of people contracting the lung infection after attending an American Legion convention in Philadelphia.- And this one is called Coronavirus.
Not the China Virus
Not the Wuhan Virus.
Coronavirus.
Fuck me.BusterBoy - Trump is using it as a dog whistle to his racist POS MAGA followers.BusterBoy
- actually the dolts in the lefty media calling Trump and the like out here used 'China' and 'Wuhan' repeatedly for weeks until it became conveniently politicalPonyBoy
- right.
yes its the act of calling it out to blame.pango - I felt the same about the Australian fires, should have called in Pyro-19Gnash
- Clutching at straws with 'Legionnaire’s Disease'webazoot
- Gnash. yes all Australian are capable of spontaneous combustion.pango
- the lefty wing media should be calling themselves out too, pango (that was my point—they're just as much to blame... but yeah, I know... Trump raaciiist) :/PonyBoy
- But they start themGnash
- Lol yes blame it on people who calls it out.pango
- You need a holidayGnash
- you think?! bad timing for holiday tho,pango
- Hotels are cheap afGnash
- ya well there's a reason why its cheap.pango
- And this one is called Coronavirus.
- HijoDMaite0
friend posted this today (It may be a synopsis of the full report that has been posted here as a link a few times)
I don’t want to scare anyone, but I do feel the need to share this transparent analysis from the peer of a friend of mine who has a PhD in biomedical research.
Friends, what we are about to experience will change our lives in profound ways. It is not yet clear how drastically our realities will be upended, but life will not be the same for the next several months — even the next several years. Please read this when you are in a state of mind to be able to parse it with faith and hope, and perhaps make sure you have someone nearby who can give you a long and comforting hug.
From Jeremy C. Young, report is attached: “We can now read the official report on COVID-19 that so terrified every public health manager and head of state from Boris Johnson to Donald Trump that they ordered people to stay in their houses. I read it yesterday afternoon and haven't been the same since. I urge everyone to read it, but maybe have a drink first, or have your family around you. It is absolutely terrifying. The New York TImes confirms that the CDC and global leaders are treating it as factual.
Here's a brief rundown of what I'm seeing in here. Please correct me in comments if I'm wrong.
The COVID-19 response team at Imperial College in London obtained what appears to be the first accurate dataset of infection and death rates from China, Korea, and Italy. They plugged those numbers into widely available epidemic modeling software and ran a simulation: what would happen if the United States did absolutely nothing -- if we treated COVID-19 like the flu, went about business as usual, and let the virus take its course?
Here's what would happen: 80% of Americans would get the disease. 0.9% of them would die. Between 4 and 8 percent of all Americans over the age of 70 would die. 2.2 million Americans would die from the virus itself.
It gets worse. Most people who are in danger of dying from COVID-19 need to be put on ventilators. 50% of those put on ventilators still die, but the other 50% live. But in an unmitigated epidemic, the need for ventilators would be 30 times the number of ventilators in the United States. Virtually no one who needed a ventilator would get one. 100% of patients who need ventilators would die if they didn't get one. So the actual death toll from the virus would be closer to 4 million Americans -- in a span of 3 months. 8-15% of all Americans over 70 would die.
How many people is 4 million Americans? It's more Americans than have died all at once from anything, ever. It's the population of Los Angeles. It's four times the number of Americans who died in the Civil War...on both sides combined. It's two-thirds as many people as died in the Holocaust.
Americans make up 4.4% of the world's population. So if we simply extrapolate these numbers to the rest of the world -- now we're getting into really fuzzy estimates, so the margin of error is pretty great here -- this gives us 90 million deaths globally from COVID-19. That's 15 Holocausts. That's 1.5 times as many people as died in World War II, over 12 years. This would take 3-6 months.
Now, it's unrealistic to assume that countries wouldn't do ANYTHING to fight the virus once people started dying. So the Imperial College team ran the numbers again, this time assuming a "mitigation" strategy. A mitigation strategy is pretty much what common sense would tell us to do: America places all symptomatic cases of the disease in isolation. It quarantines their families for 14 days. It orders all Americans over 70 to practice social distancing. This is what you've seen a lot of people talking about when they say we should "flatten the curve": try to slow the spread of the disease to the people most likely to die from it, to avoid overwhelming hospitals.
And it does flatten the curve -- but not nearly enough. The death rate from the disease is cut in half, but it still kills 1.1 million Americans all by itself. The peak need for ventilators falls by two-thirds, but it still exceeds the number of ventilators in the US by eight times, meaning most people who need ventilators still don't get them. That leaves the actual death toll in the US at right around 2 million deaths. The population of Houston. Two civil wars. One-third of the Holocaust. Globally, 45 million people die: 7.5 Holocausts, 3/4 of World War II. That's what happens if we use common sense: the worst death toll from a single cause since the Middle Ages.
Finally, the Imperial College team ran the numbers a third time, this time assuming a "suppression" strategy. In addition to isolating symptomatic cases and quarantining their family members, they also simulated social distancing for the entire population. All public gatherings and most workplaces shut down. Schools and universities close. (Note that these simulations assumed a realistic rate of adherence to these requirements, around 70-75% adherence, not that everyone follows them perfectly.) This is basically what we are seeing happen in the United States today.
This time it works! The death rate in the US peaks three weeks from now at a few thousand deaths, then goes down. We hit, but don't exceed (at least not by very much), the number of available ventilators. The nightmarish death tolls from the rest of the study disappear; COVID-19 goes down in the books as a bad flu instead of the Black Death.
But here's the catch: if we EVER relax these requirements before a vaccine is administered to the entire population, COVID-19 comes right back and kills millions of Americans in a few months, the same as before. The simulation does indicate that, after the first suppression period (lasting from now until July), we could probably lift restrictions for a month, followed by two more months of suppression, in a repeating pattern without triggering an outbreak or overwhelming the ventilator supply. If we staggered these suppression breaks based on local conditions, we might be able to do a bit better. But we simply cannot ever allow the virus to spread throughout the entire population in the way other viruses do, because it is just too deadly. If lots of people we know end up getting COVID-19, it means millions of Americans are dying. It simply can't be allowed to happen.
How quickly will a vaccine be here? Already, medical ethics have been pushed to the limit to deliver one. COVID-19 was first discovered a few months ago. Last week, three separate research teams announced they had developed vaccines. Yesterday, one of them (with FDA approval) injected its vaccine into a live person, without waiting for animal testing. Now, though, they have to monitor the test subject for fourteen months to make sure the vaccine is safe. This is the part of the testing that can't be rushed: the plan is to inoculate the entire human population, so if the vaccine itself turned out to be lethal for some reason, it could potentially kill all humans, which is a lot worse than 90 million deaths. Assuming the vaccine is safe and effective, it will still take several months to produce enough to inoculate the global population. For this reason, the Imperial College team estimated it will be about 18 months until the vaccine is available.
During those 18 months, things are going to be very difficult and very scary. Our economy and our society will be disrupted in profound ways. Worst of all, if the suppression policies actually work, it will feel like we are doing all this for nothing, because the infection and death rates will be very low. It's easy to get people to come together in common sacrifice in the middle of a war. It's very hard to get them to do so in a pandemic that looks invisible precisely because suppression methods are working. But that's exactly what we're going to have to do.”
Thank you Keita Demming for sharing this excerpt.- "Hoax!" - President Trumpinteliboy
- Sounds a bit like the plot line to Utopia.Chimp
- Why is everyone downvoting people who post this? It's not fakeyuekit
- https://www.imperial…yuekit
- @yuekit maybe because it's "modeling" and because people don't want to be so alarmed & scared? I'm not saying either reason is justification; just guessing.Krassy
- NBQ000
I don't know why everybody here getting upset to call it China Virus or Wuhan Virus. See post below where other examples are listed that named outbreaks after places of origin.
Also China tried to and still is trying to manipulate the truth and caused all of this crap now.
Nothing to do with racism to call them out. And by them I mean the Chinese government/ Communist party, not the people.
- fuck chinese government. their action does not represent chinese/asian. im including the word asian because too many mofos dont care about the difference.pango
- I'm not a fan of China, I literally marched in the Hong Kong protests/riots just a few months ago. But there is no reason to rename the virus, entire mediayuekit
- And while we’re at it, let’s stop criticizing Israel, because JewsGnash
- already settled on a name for it. The only reason Trump and conservatives are trying to push this "China virus" thing is to rile up their racist voters andyuekit
- deflect blame from themselves.yuekit
- Also keep in mind Chinese people are not limited to mainland China. Hong Kong, Macau, Taiwan and Singapore and all ethnic Chinese countries/territorie...yuekit
- Anyway this is just the typical nonsense Trump likes to pull, have you guys really not figured it out by now?yuekit
- Trump will intentionally say something vaguely racist/controversial... liberal media overreacts, Trump says "what me, racist"...yuekit
- And a certain segment of the public, let's be honest mostly white men, will side with Trump. It's a stupid game he plays, totally planned out, to distract fromyuekit
- his own fuck ups. Is that really the hill you want to die on? Don't we have bigger things to worry about right now?yuekit
- pango2
fuck you this is why
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Las Vegas casinos to close for 30 days.
- neverscared1
The darkest day so far. Military trucks carrying hundreds of coffins out of Bergamo, a martyr city.
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- SimonFFM0
Not wanting to add to the panic, but I couldn't buy toilet paper on Monday and not today. Also no similar things, e.g. tissues.
I am ok for about one week. And it's a first world problem. But I better had bought the stuff when I was still smiling about other people panicking and buying big stock of toilet paper.
Two weeks ago, I did not realize the consequences this will all have.
- If it's any consolation, I did see many pallets being wheeled into my local HIT and DM yesterday. So it's out there, somewhere.Continuity
- Yes, I did not want to go to Lidl, Aldi, Netto, Penny... there are more options and I don't really need it that bad. Next week, I will check them all...SimonFFM
- Well, we've been assured our supply chain is good. If people can finally stop with the fucking Hamsterkauf, then things *should* normalise.Continuity
- FWIW, I bought mine on Monday at Müller (if you have one in FRA)Continuity
- microkorg0
This is a reassuring read. Written by a GP who's had the virus.
