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- Nairn3
I think I'm the only person in the entire building.
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*strips off and does a lap or two and.. OH SHIT, I THOUGHT I WAS ALONE!
- dbloc-1
Uber Eats waives delivery fees for independent restaurants during COVID-19 pandemic – TechCrunch
- Krassy2
- I wish i was walking right by this sign right now.capn_ron
- Got married there. :)duckseason
- elahon1
Maine gov bans gatherings of more than 10 people at a time and shuts down all sit-down restaurants for at least two weeks. Take-out services can still continue.
- yuekit0
Wow the level of panic is off the charts. American business leaders throwing out ideas that basically amount to communism, in a desperate attempt to prevent the market from collapsing.
This guy's proposal -- shut the entire country down for a month, no one has to pay rent or bills, government covers everyone's salary.
- Continuity2
We should be surprised, but it's still no good.
'EU warns of Kremlin disinformation efforts to sow 'panic and fear' during coronavirus outbreak'
- We shouldn't* be surprisedContinuity
- Clever girlsPhanLo
- Trump's comrades doing what they do best.utopian
- colin_s2
I'm mostly worried about what happens after.
Do we (Americans) as a nation pull together and demand a more balanced social infrastructure? Or do we watch another crisis go by where money and power insulate those in control and further disenfranchise and oppress the masses?
Katrina, Sandy Hook, Covid-19; massive displays of a complete failure in American social infrastructure in terms of protecting public health across the board. I would accuse America of having a completely failed state, but this to me seems how our system is exactly designed to run: protecting the mechanisms of control for a select few while allowing the people to fend for themselves individually, regardless of what crisis may occur.
One and one-half trillion dollars into the banks, just like that, yet the people are basically on their own in fending off both a massive, terrifying and invisible entity that wants to kill them (the American healthcare system) and a global pandemic.
Fuck everything about this system.
- Sadly, it will be back to the status quo in your country when this finally blows over. no one will have learned anything, and it will continue to be ...Continuity
- ... a third-world country.Continuity
- But hey, Bernie Sanders is a scary, dirty communist who would destroy the US, amirite?Continuity
- it's a first world country with third world peoplehotroddy
- I have wondered whether this all might catalyse a massive change in the American political psyche. Probably not.Nairn
- @Nairn: one of their would-be presidential candidates is precisely trying to bring about that change. And he's probably about to throw in the towel. Says it allContinuity
- I bet you're all fun at parties :)SteveJobs
- The inequality aspect aside, what is striking is how much of a house of cards the whole system is. People stop working for a week and everything just collapses?yuekit
- The thing I don't get is how the whole "Let's suggest C-19 is a political tool of the left" hasn't immediately shat in the Right's faces. It's despicable and ..Nairn
- ..inherently hypocritical and an abuse of the trust of the millions of poor saps who voted for them. To my eyes, this shit is socially nuclear, yet..?Nairn
- agreed, no need for the 1% to control so much of the wealth given that it's worthless without the other 99%_niko
- Their healthcare system is the laughing stock of the world, now maybe they'll realize that and change._niko
- My understanding is that the healthcare in the States can be amongst the very best in the world. If you can afford it.Nairn
- Oh you guys are so pessimistic! You're in the middle of watching the GOP disintegrate as they watch their base grow older and die and you're wondering if thingszarkonite
- will change? Of course, things are changing, they're remarkably different than they were in the 90s. Change is slow and uneven, be patient.zarkonite
- NBQ000
Oh man, Italy over 4200+ new cases today, 475 deaths today. Increasing every day. Also Spain and other EU countries going higher.
- On March 6 there were 100,000 cases globally. Now 200,000.yuekit
- Meanwhile China reporting barely any new cases and has 89% recovery rate. Hmmm.Krassy
- without the lockdown there would have been around 1200 deaths today, so it's slowing down there. just waitsrhadden
- Slowing down where? Italy? It’s actually increasing every day despite lockdownNBQ00
- The rate of increase is slowing, NBQ, the velocity of increase. Yes, it's still moving forward, but it's slowing.monospaced
- Italy is going to top out around 30,000 -35,000 infections, but deaths are going to continue to pour in until beginning of april, with the peak end of marchsrhadden
- that's registered infections, not actual infections, which are much highersrhadden
- 40K in Italy I mean, scusisrhadden
- Nairn3
is this the fastest-growing thread in QBN history?
- AND IT SHOULD'VE BEEN MINE - DAMN YOU, BEESWAX! :)Nairn
- The zoolander and drive-by shooting threat threads from back in the day grew pretty quick but this one surely trumps them.SteveJobs
- Zoolander thread? I can only find a thread where a user ragequits and publishes his login details (password Zoolander), but that's only 4 or so pages?Nairn
- It probably got deleted. It's from the gray Newstoday eraSteveJobs
- I figured whatever thread we had on 9/11 would be pretty long, but then I remembered how small the input boxes were in those daysNairn
- ..he says, typing into a tiny box with a strict character limit.Nairn
- prediction from 5 days ago: https://www.qbn.com/…Krassy
- It'll peter out well before that, sadly, when we all start dying.Nairn
- nah, you forgot the chicks in long socks thread. That thing blew up like toilet paper in a pandemic.zarkonite
- @Nairn When Aliens find the servers of our extinct civilization they will be like "Beeswax! he is the man who started it all"Beeswax
- utopian1
White House News Conference this afternoon...here's a synopsis.
It’s very tremendous and we’re doing it well. We have an incredible amount of ventilator and millions upon million of masks. Like I said it came out of nowhere. Caught us off guard. We’re lucky we caught it early. Ordering a lot more, at least 10,000, seven thousand new one by the end of the week. You can only be vigilant and very very professional. It could be, we are playing with a lot of numbers or maybe little numbers. No one can be blamed as soon as but wait someone could be blamed they can be blamed, we are incredibly strong. It is very very calm, we should be calm extremely calm. We have very great numbers. We have the greatest professionals in the world. No one has ever dealt with this in the world. Are numbers are great, so strong...so strong. Perhaps that’s the story of life. We inherited a very obsolete system, a very broken system. We built it if you want to go this route. The great private sector. China is spending billion upon billions in tariffs, then onto up this has created worst year in 67 years.trade is perfect. We have ended on a temporary basis.
- "I like to call it the failing coronavirus..."yuekit
- You left out the “Chinese Virus” and “Kung Flu”Ramanisky2
- Some more civic-minded citizen in that shithole country really ought to put this fucker down.Continuity
- Wait...this isn't real is it?BusterBoy
- ********3
Airlines have been doing well for many years while decreasing quality of service, etc. Ok, whatever, they're businesses. Fair enough.
Amid a crisis causing an obvious downturn in flights that any idiot could predict would sustain and get worse... and the airlines do things like flying empty planes around the world to protect their premium gate access at airports... and now we're going to bail them out?
I understand why banks got bailed out but this seems dumb.
- their responsibility in this is also interesting.sted
- Yeah no kidding. No additional precautions taken for flight attendants. They're STILL flying around with crews.********
- chrisRG-1
"86 percent of all infections were undocumented prior to the January 23 Wuhan travel shutdown"
If this model is correct there would be 1,000,000 cases worldwide.
Here in the UK I'm quite sure the real number of cases could be close to 90% undocumented. I have 5-10 friends with symptoms, none of them have been or will be tested.
- Yup. An overwhelming majority wont' be tested and will survive.monospaced
- SteveJobs0
I've been thinking about it and I think the problem with what's going on is the lack of data. There is data, and there are reports and studies, but they are coming in from different sources at different rates.
We need to be able to aggregate the data for the consumption of various audiences - particularly general audiences.
In my opinion the cause of this panic is one of lack of consumable and actionable data. We do know the mortality rate is proportionate to age and we do have some data to reflect that, but it's stale.
If we could put our chances of risk in more concrete terms, many of us would rest easier. With the fatality rates climbing in Italy and elsewhere in Europe and doctors and scientists offering grim soundbites to the media, what's a person to do except hoard and prepare for the worst and nervously post memes about a bleak future they may not be around for.
If we had better, more real-time data, particularly by age, many of us, I believe, could put this all in context as a legitimate risk, and one to take precautions, just as we do when we board a plane, get in our cars, and understand but not dwell on the fact that any of those daily routines could just as easily lead to our sudden death.
- this is what I've been trying to do, look at all data sources and make a rational decision._niko
- no.uan
- I'd say the biggest issue is that countries literally have no idea how many infected people there are within their borders.yuekit
- you need to proactively act: pump up hygiene (wash hands). don't touch surfaces. don't touch your face with your hands. keep distance to other ppl.uan
- And how's that been going _niko? Do you feel that there's adequate granular data?SteveJobs
- They can't admit this out of sheer embarrassment. But the policy response if you have a million infected is completely different vs. if there are 10,000.yuekit
- protect the vulnerable: old ppl. ppl with chronic diseases. weak imune systems.uan
- don't mix generations...don't let your kids visit grandparents.uan
- YOLOdeadsperm
- I'm not concerned about infection to death ratios. I'm concerned about age related data.SteveJobs
- uan, sure those are good practices, but I'm talking about how to calm the masses and put things into context for people. This is a issue in communications.SteveJobs
- what can happen...you get ill. then you stay home, isolation for 14days. if you get better all good. if you get fever and cough call a doctor.uan
- My biggest concern isn't the death rate, it's - thanks to that cunt KingSteven - the 'alive but fucked' rates. I want that on my infographic. Also, asymptomaticNairn
- ********-2
Dr. Deborah Birx, who is coordinating the administration’s coronavirus response, said public health experts were alarmed by European data showing that millennial-age people may have a “disproportional number of infections” compared with older groups of people.
- yuekit2
Future history teacher: "And the person they put in charge while all of this was going on was a TV celebrity and game show host with no experience at all in government, Donald Trump..."
*class bursts into laughter
"No, seriously."
- Nairn0
I think a big problem with empty stores because of stockpiling isn't so much the stockpiling itself, per se - rather the razor-thin margins in terms of stock and profit that most companies work on. Even larger supermarket chains. Perhaps, *especially* large supermarket chains.
Here in the UK it's all gone a little nuts and from my perspective, I've seen rows of empty shelves in large supermarkets and then last night in my local one - it was literally about 95% empty. My partner gave me a withering "I fucking told you so" look when I exclaimed this as I got back from work last night.
This morning though, it's full again. Tonight it'll be empty on my way back, and I imagine that tomorrow morning it'll be full again.
The image of empty shelves looks terrible and feeds back into the disfunctional system, but the system itself is pretty resilient.
I don't think Big Data Delivered Well will do much to quash fear, but I do think that a week or three's sustained tolerance by The System might. if it continues to work and deliver, people's fears will change their focus.
Right now this is all new to all of us - the optics are stark and the images plenty. Give it a bit of time and people's reactions will moderate.
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Or not, and everything totally fucking implodes next week.
- < In relation to SteveJobs' postNairn
- I think the data, when put into terms that broader audiences can comprehend, would mitigate this type of panic to a degree. But people see overall death statsSteveJobs
- and bleak headlines and then react.SteveJobs
- Good news is that people dont magically eat more than before. So as long as food distribution is okay, we should all be fed.monospaced
- its the just-in-time economy. The stores have a supply chain for ~X days food for ~Y people. When everyone tries for 2-3X food, things fall apart.monNom
- at least for the moment, but sucks if you are in the store trying to buy food in that moment!monNom
- Exactly! 'just in time economy' was the key term I forgot. I could've made that whole post a lot shorter if you'd said beforehand, monNom! :)Nairn
- We are seeing stores here in NYC mediate the whole process. Limiting capacity to under 50% and not allowing any obvious hoarding at all. People are very civil.monospaced
- I waited to get in for 10 min at 10am, got everything I needed in a fully stocked store, and was home within an hour at a Trader Joe's. I'm so proud of us.monospaced
- People don't understand that grocery stores get stocked all day, all throughout the day, and right now they're just having trouble keeping up********
- It's like no one ever noticed that every shelf is perfectly full of all items 100% of the time. How do you think that happens?********
- Don't be afraid of food shortages, that won't happen. Be afraid of maybe needing a hospital bed three weeks from now.********
