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- jonny_quest_lives12
via a friend's facebook personally i think its on point...
Dr. Fauci:
“Chickenpox is a virus. Lots of people have had it, and probably don't think about it much once the initial illness has passed. But it stays in your body and lives there forever, and maybe when you're older, you have debilitatingly painful outbreaks of shingles. You don't just get over this virus in a few weeks, never to have another health effect. We know this because it's been around for years, and has been studied medically for years.
Herpes is also a virus. And once someone has it, it stays in your body and lives there forever, and anytime they get a little run down or stressed-out they're going to have an outbreak. Maybe every time you have a big event coming up (school pictures, job interview, big date) you're going to get a cold sore. For the rest of your life. You don't just get over it in a few weeks. We know this because it's been around for years, and been studied medically for years.
HIV is a virus. It attacks the immune system and makes the carrier far more vulnerable to other illnesses. It has a list of symptoms and negative health impacts that goes on and on. It was decades before viable treatments were developed that allowed people to live with a reasonable quality of life. Once you have it, it lives in your body forever and there is no cure. Over time, that takes a toll on the body, putting people living with HIV at greater risk for health conditions such as cardiovascular disease, kidney disease, diabetes, bone disease, liver disease, cognitive disorders, and some types of cancer. We know this because it has been around for years, and had been studied medically for years.
Now with COVID-19, we have a novel virus that spreads rapidly and easily. The full spectrum of symptoms and health effects is only just beginning to be cataloged, much less understood.
So far the symptoms may include:
Fever
Fatigue
Coughing
Pneumonia
Chills/Trembling
Acute respiratory distress
Lung damage (potentially permanent)
Loss of taste (a neurological symptom)
Sore throat
Headaches
Difficulty breathing
Mental confusion
Diarrhea
Nausea or vomiting
Loss of appetite
Strokes have also been reported in some people who have COVID-19 (even in the relatively young)
Swollen eyes
Blood clots
Seizures
Liver damage
Kidney damage
Rash
COVID toes (weird, right?)
People testing positive for COVID-19 have been documented to be sick even after 60 days. Many people are sick for weeks, get better, and then experience a rapid and sudden flare up and get sick all over again. A man in Seattle was hospitalized for 62 days, and while well enough to be released, still has a long road of recovery ahead of him. Not to mention a $1.1 million medical bill.
Then there is MIS-C. Multisystem inflammatory syndrome in children is a condition where different body parts can become inflamed, including the heart, lungs, kidneys, brain, skin, eyes, or gastrointestinal organs. Children with MIS-C may have a fever and various symptoms, including abdominal pain, vomiting, diarrhea, neck pain, rash, bloodshot eyes, or feeling extra tired. While rare, it has caused deaths.
This disease has not been around for years. It has basically been 6 months. No one knows yet the long-term health effects, or how it may present itself years down the road for people who have been exposed. We literally *do not know* what we do not know.
For those in our society who suggest that people being cautious are cowards, for people who refuse to take even the simplest of precautions to protect themselves and those around them, I want to ask, without hyperbole and in all sincerity:
Why do you risk the lives of others so cavalierly? Why do you decide for others that they should welcome exposure as "getting it over with", when literally no one knows who will be the lucky "mild symptoms" case, and who may fall ill and die. Because while we know that some people are more susceptible to suffering a more serious case, we also know that 20 and 30-year-olds have died, marathon runners and fitness nuts have died, children and infants have died.
Why do you behave as though you know more than medical experts, when those same experts acknowledge that there is so much we don't yet know, but with what we DO know, are smart enough to be scared of how easily this is spread, and recommend baseline precautions such as:
Frequent hand-washing
Physical distancing
Reduced social/public contact or interaction
Mask wearing
Covering your cough or sneeze
Avoiding touching your face
Sanitizing frequently touched surfaces
The more things we can all do to mitigate our risk of exposure, the better off we all are, in my opinion. Not only does it flatten the curve and allow health care providers to maintain levels of service that aren't immediately and catastrophically overwhelmed; it also reduces unnecessary suffering and deaths, and buys time for the scientific community to study the virus in order to come to a more full understanding of the breadth of its impacts in both the short and long term.- "but, he said an incorrect thing once, and even though he changed his expert advice, we can never trust him ever again!"monospaced
- "he was only an expert when he said something wrong and we liked that, but now that he's saying something else, he's not an expert we trust"monospaced
- Very insightful comparison, but probably not Fauci: https://www.snopes.c…akiersky
- but mah freedumbs!_niko
- Common sense...is not so common.grafician
- also the voice of reason!grafician
- exactly thisBaskerviIle
- When stressed or fatigued I get Cold Sores... they fucking suck. The worst thing about it is in every OTHER civilized country you can buy Zovir 5% ACICLOVIRjonny_quest_lives
- At just about at any quick market or Pharmacist with no prescription whatsoever but here in 'Merica you can only get a moisturizing lip balm with the followingjonny_quest_lives
- bullshit ingredients: camphor 3.00%, menthol 1.00%, phenol 1.50%, white petrolatum 89.20%jonny_quest_lives
- Real Zovirax here in the states you will most likely get charged $2500 via your insurance... That alone shoud tell you how fucked for profit healthcare is.jonny_quest_lives
- https://www.latimes.…jonny_quest_lives
- It’s expensive here tooGnash
- CanadaGnash
- But not that muchGnash
- @jonny Did a search, here ZOVIRAX creme 5% from GSK costs $4-5 lolgrafician
- ^in israel over the counter $8 proly half with a prescriptionrenderedred
- Anyway, I liked Dr. Fauci ever since his facepalm move in that White House speech...grafician
- $15 in Australia._me_
- @grafician go into a Walgreens in the united states and show my zovirax in the aisles it's not there... you need a prescription...jonny_quest_lives
- I've been able to hoard it on business trips to Europe... It used to be my last purchase in the terminal before heading back to the states.jonny_quest_lives
- they sell Abreva here in the states over the counter but that might as well be a placebo the stuff is useless.jonny_quest_lives
- @grafician https://www.walgreen…jonny_quest_lives
- US pricing: https://www.healthwa…jonny_quest_lives
- So either hoard during travel... have a friend overseas mail you some or order via Canadian or australian pharmacy willing to ship to the statesjonny_quest_lives
- my point was the US health system is fucked... simple effective cold sore medicine sold over the counter overseas marked up nearly 1200% by insurancejonny_quest_lives
- @jonny I think we clearly made that point very clear! Clearly!grafician
- Just think the price of the covid vaccine, $500k a pop over insurance buhahahahahahah!grafician
- Read yesterday a 60 day hospitalisation for covid in the US costs about $1.5 milli LOLgrafician
- @grafician apologies nuance is lost in these little response boxes I thought you meant you were able to find zovirax for $4-5 here (US) not here (Romania)jonny_quest_lives
- Well said. Also, Lysine!futurefood
- U forget Johnny us med gov res subsidizes you. You are welcome********
- grafician-2
"‘A Smoking Gun’: Infectious Coronavirus Retrieved From Hospital Air
Airborne virus plays a significant role in community transmission, many experts believe. A new study fills in the missing piece: Floating virus can infect cells."
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/08/…
I mean, it's like wearing a mask might just stop this thing, but what do I know...
- whatthefunk2
- Stop coming up with crazy ideas Arlan. That's way too intelligent.PhanLo
- yea arlan you smarty pants.inteliboy
- "Cable companies hate her for this one simple trick..."akiersky
- @arian that means FREE education. no go.renderedred
- socialism, how does it work?nbq
- They tried that in Turkey. Kids don't sit through a class. They need a guardian.Beeswax
- yeah... good luck keeping kids focused. We're about to have the dumbest / emptiest generation yet. Porn is more accessible than a 'real' education right now. :(PonyBoy
- when i was a kid i enjoyed educational tv every day back in yugoslavia. learned so much from it.renderedred
- Parents would make pretty good guardians. Might educate some adults as wellscarabin
- This is such a good idea however in the UK the unions would have a fucking fit and subsequently would never happen. Thanks Marx.Morning_star
- PhanLo-1
- Doris_McSquirter-10
- hahahahaha so dumb.pango
- Ted Nuget.face_melter
- 6 months later and shit like this is still posted around here? Do you not know how to read? Or understand very very very basic science?inteliboy
- God, lol, what a fucking crutch for fucktardsmonospaced
- Ted Nuggetpango
- Lol posted by Russian trolls and shared by idiots like Doris, way to go bobo._niko
- Doris The Mookutopian
- Ted is a genius. He wants all the trumptards to get infected and hopefully die.nbq
- Doris probably knows his Scottish cousin, Ned Mcnuggets.Fax_Benson
- @Fax .. LMAORamanisky2
- He's pretty much correct if u look at the details not too mention basic philosophy of freedom********
- Mono surprised u didn't chime in on the cdc info. Specifically because I ask u to provide any since I hadn't seen any. But oh so quiet...********
- there's freedom and there's freedumb. you can have your freedom as long as you dont impede on other's freedom. the more you be a freedumb the longer you impedepango
- on other's freedom.pango
- Good boy pango. Now go further. Are you advocating no one is free because they nay have germs and as such rules are decided by elected officials********
- Pretty on par with originals sin and priests********
- Your idea of living or being as a potential carriers you have no rights. Or at least in regards too other humans********
- What do u say about individuals participating with other individuals and saying fuck masks. It between them no one else. Do u allow it?********
- Ha I ask like I expect to get a real response or logical arguement. Guess we all reflect the world we hope********
- Defug you talking about Bible now? Next thing you gonna say if god gonna kill us with plague, so be it.pango
- Just showing your philosophies have been long used. If I say plague exists and we can die u say no priests tell us gods will to avoid it********
- Fifteen side notes to say absolutely nothing. Fucking hell, that’s impressive. Does that nonsense even make sense to yourself?scruffics
- Avoiding vitamin C? Huh?! Avoiding sunshine? Who said that?! Also, what vaccine? This post is idiotic.********
- I didn’t post CRC numbers because that would make no sense. I’m mocking his reference to god given freedom because there are no gods you fucking idiot.monospaced
- I'm not even religious. Db assumes I would listen to a priest. LOLpango
- Db is not right in the head :( I worry about him.inteliboy
- ayport2
Looks Promising
- I hope that this really works, but it sounds like pseudo science.utopian
- Yeah but, what about Clorox and powerful light?nbq
- So when do you take/use this? Is it a 'vaccine' that you take before you get it and it waits in your system for C19?microkorg
- Or do you take it when you think you've maybe caught it from someone? cos you wont know for two weeks! or take it once you get symptoms?microkorg
- Cringeworthy PR video with cute graphics and music and annoying narrator. Ugh. Just interview the scientists, FFSKrassy
- ********-1
“Will we have a COVID vaccine for the obese? No way.”https://khn.org/news/americas-ob…
A win for Darwin. You fat? You fucked.
- _niko1
not sure if this goes in Coronavirus, Donald trump, Religion, America is fucked, Florida or capitalism threads
"Floridians who promoted bleach cocktail as a COVID-19 cure arrested in Colombia"
- grafician3
More data coming up:
"There are at least 4 possible reasons why some people with COVID have little or no symptoms.
1) A rapid immune response that conquers the virus
2) Pre-existing cross reactive immunity
3) Genetic factors
4) Low viral load at time of infectionWe have emerging data for each."
- Wearing a mask def cuts the viral load a lot and gives the immune system the time to fight back. Maybe that's why there are lots of ppl infected with no symptomgrafician
- I’m using all the right hashtags. It’s been working so farGnash
- viral load also instrumental that folks who get it within their household have more severe symptoms than those that get it outside...kingsteven
- zaq13
- Ramanisky22
- these are the things what will make this garbage blow into trump&friends facested
- She's like what 140 IQ?grafician
- Damn tough situation man, and she's well known, but think of the regular families nobody would bother to listen or help...scarygrafician
- Sarah Connormonospaced
- Hers is a regular family, and nobody is listening to them.monospaced
- @mono yeah I guess, but how can someone drop the call on Sharon Stone, america is truly fucked lolgrafician
- Are you arguing an old celebrity should have some sort of special treatment? If so, that is fucking disgusting and you should think about how fucked up that is.monospaced
- Imagine you got hung up on, but Sharon Stone got through and got tests? I guess in Romania shit is TRULY FUCKED if that's how things are done. Fuck OFF!monospaced
- FUCKmonospaced
- sted2
Media are reporting on a pre-print journal article (yet to be peer-reviewed) which proposes the existence of a potentially more transmissible ("contagious") strain of the SARS-CoV-2 virus, due to a mutation to the spike region called 'D614G'.
Two-thirds of the sequenced strains (or “isolates”) globally and half of the sequences in some countries (such as Australia and India) now have this D614G mutation , which is apparently increasing its representation among newer strains.
Does the D614G strain cause more severe disease?
Professor Seshadri Vasan, head of CSIRO's Dangerous Pathogens Team testing COVID-19 vaccine candidates at the Australian Centre for Disease Preparedness in Geelong, said:
"Even if a particular strain may be more transmissible, it does not mean it will cause a more severe form of disease. In fact, the authors of this pre-print have themselves said 'there was no significant correlation found between D614G status and hospitalisation status'.
"This virus is still adapting to its new human host. It is expected that, over time, different dominant strains will appear in different parts of the world. This is especially true where movement around the world is restricted.
"This should not cause undue alarm. While it is normal and anticipated for RNA viruses to mutate, the SARS-CoV-2 virus has a 'proof-reading' mechanism which limits the rate at which it can mutate.
"More research is required before we can separate out host and environmental factors to draw firm conclusions from this limited data.”
Will this mutation affect the vaccines or diagnostics being developed?
Professor Seshadri Vasan, CSIRO Dangerous Pathogens Team Leader, said:
"Based on what we know at this point, we do not believe that this poses serious concerns about vaccine development, unlike what we see in seasonal influenza where we need to tweak the vaccine each year for Northern and Southern Hemispheres. However, many vaccines for COVID-19 target the spike region so we will keep a close watch on this and other mutations."
"CSIRO is planning experiments to confirm whether the D614G mutation will impact antibody responses to the CEPI-funded vaccines (Oxford and Inovio) under evaluation at CSIRO's Australian Centre for Disease Preparedness."
"CSIRO will continue to monitor the national and global situation regarding the genetic evolution of SARS CoV-2, as it is inevitable that other mutations will be identified and reported."
Is this strain circulating in Australia?
Associate Professor Denis Bauer, Transformational Bioinformatics Team Leader at CSIRO's Australian e-Health Research Centre, said:
"We have been monitoring whether Australia will be affected by the D614G change in the spike protein caused by a single base mutation A to G at location 23403.
"In Australia it currently seems to be less frequent than the world average, appearing in only 50 per cent of the surveyed sequences (in 717 high quality isolates out of the total 1300 Australian isolates, 3rd May).
"This mutation is present in roughly two third of all global strains but only represents half of all Australian strains. NSW and QLD show the lowest rate of the mutation (representing one-thirds of all strains) while VIC and WA more closely resemble the international distribution. NT is split down the middle, while there was no data for Tasmania or South Australia."
"However, this ratio might change in the future as the D614G strain is only one of currently 10 strains circulating, with no clear evidence on clinical outcomes for any strain so far. Mutations are a normal part of a virus’ evolution and do not necessarily have an impact on the severity of disease."
- Was tracking this myself, overall it might mean the severity gets lower as the spread gets higher as in "the virus wants to spread but not kill all his hosts"grafician
- Ever wonder how all other diseases may adapt to harsher conditions in spreading? I think it's all political idiots at this point********
- Bluejam7
Meanwhile in Wuhan ...
- https://edition.cnn.…Bluejam
- We'd be partying like this too if our governments had closed borders, imposed lockdowns and just acted faster than they did.microkorg
- Whadup my ninjas?!?!?_niko
- Wuhan aint nutin to fuck witmoldero
- We've closed borders and been in lockdown for 3 months, masks are mandatory, but after summer the numbers are growing again...OBBTKN
- A dark and cold winter waits around the corner, sadOBBTKN
- Apparently our reward at the end of all this is to be herded into a waterpark and listen to shitty eurodance music.yuekit
- But seriously good for them. Regardless of their government's actions people of Wuhan went through hell. 3 month lockdown, no going outside.yuekit
- Looks a BIT tight; like starting an Iron Man and getting whacked in the head for a few minutes before the thin folks head to the front of the pack.
: )ideaist - they got the vaccine? lolKrassy
- They didn’t need it Krassy, it was well engineeredGnash
- What if youre in the middle of that huge crowd and have to go to the bathroom?mantrakid
- ^ i would rather swim in the los angeles river. Also, I why wear the life jackets in chest deep pool water? everything about this pic is uncomfortable for mehotroddy
- I for one, welcome our new Chinese overlordsmoldero
- Needs more Pitbull
https://www.youtube.…PhanLo - https://twitter.com/…Bluejam
- no one is drinking anything. what kind of a party is this? What if it's a ploy.
Also I'm sure china has the vaccineBeeswax - Chinese pool water is spiked with tiger penismoldero
- Chinese communist propaganda showing the middle finger to the rest of the worldKrassy
- wait, its outside.api
- Wuhan on top of the food chainutopian
- top image: "CAAAN YOUUU DIG IIIT?"bezoar
- There is no waterpark...it's all CGI guys!yuekit
- that water must be pure pissmilfhunter
- Nevermind the virus, I think this is my idea of hell. In a luke warm pool of piss, with 1000's of yattering shout-talking chinese that can't swim.shapesalad
- mg333
My wife and I are feeling nervous. Found out that the older sister of my kid's babysitter tested positive yesterday via a saliva test required as she started college. Our kids were last with the babysitter on Thursday. The babysitter is getting tested, as are other neighbors who the older sister was babysitting until the end of the week.
We had an outdoor get-together with neighbors on Saturday, everyone is aware of the girl who tested positive.
We JUST took our kids back to daycare yesterday where they wear masks all day except for lunch and naps.
Wife and I keep taking our temperatures and mine ranges from mid 98 to mid-99, which is about average for me. Wife's is mid-99 range as well.
- Beeswax0
I know this is posted below but I wanted to post the video too. I think it's very sketchy.
As we know every video that comes out of China is part of a propaganda. This caused a lot of sensation among the "Mah freedumb" crowd in every country.
I think they want to cause an unrest.- the guy on the right side of the stage is wearing a mask. absurdBeeswax
- USA #1 Neva foget!utopian
- Looks like it was originally reported by a French news agency...they took the pics and video
https://twitter.com/…yuekit - Of course it's quite possible Chinese government wanted them to go there to promote the idea that Wuhan recovered. But people are going way overboardyuekit
- if they think the whole thing is fake or staged somehow.yuekit
- Also apparently not the only water party happening in China
https://au.news.yaho…yuekit - NEED the TRACK ID IMMEDIATELY... plz. omg... amazeballs. And that micro mid band EQ tweak the DJ made... just wow.shapesalad
- moldero0
all countries want to cause an unrest in the US, it's in their best interests, its so easy today with social media that it would almost be foolish not to take advantage of of these platforms as they stands today, to try and level the playing field or change the status quo to their own countries advantage.
and if you think about it, countries that we suspect of doing this the most are the countries that have taken the steps to best block this from happening to themselves (freedom of speech or lack there of) Our freedoms we have here are also our biggest vulnerability, Im not saying "kill freedom of speech on the internet" but something needs to be done, I don't know what it is, I'm too bust trying to survive in a tough economy like the rest of us which is also a great way to keep the status quo within our own country.I tweeted this before "Flat Earth, No Masks. It doesn't take a genius to realize the ease of toppling a government from the inside, all it takes is the right post in the right place."
we all know this here because we all know how marketing works because that's what most of us do here in 1 way or another.Maybe every country needs it's own private internet where we keep social media platforms, (to avoid things like VPN's n shit) but also have an international internet for standard websites, but this doesn't stop a saboteur from physically moving to its target country and posting from within, I don't fuckin know the fix, all I do know is something needs to change.
- I feel like one of the reasons this is possible is because we are now in a post-facts society.BaskerviIle
- Everything is now a matter of opinion and people take a binary X or Y stance. Other countries then just have to pick a side to fuel the fire.BaskerviIle
- Objective truth no longer existsBaskerviIle
- The data surveillance of the last decade was a giant psychometric test. They know exactly what buttons to press and social media offers the perfect platform.monoboy
- Sadly fo mankind, you can't mitigate stupid gullible bastards.monoboy
- We used to elect 'smart' people to look after the hard stuff. Now we've got alt-fact arseholes in charge, hell bent on destroying democracy for personal gain.monoboy
- I blame women.Morning_star
- If you think about it when we were kids we were also subjected to propaganda, but it more or less a single message coming from the mainstream news.yuekit
- Now there are multiple states, special interests and social movements competing to brainwash you -- so maybe that's progress in a way? :)yuekit
- But I think because we grew up with a more controlled media people in Western countries dramatically underestimated how gullible the average person is.yuekit
- @yuekit I don't think it's gullibility I think it's apathy. Understanding the truth of a news story takes time and several different outlets. Most people...Morning_star
- ...align with the news outlet they agree with most and are happy to consume that one source without question.Morning_star
- Also, news is now entertainment with little room for truth.Morning_star
- I guess that's true, but I'm still amazed by how popular things like Flat Earth or QAnon are. I never would have guessed so many people in first world countriesyuekit
- would fall for that. And I don't think it can all be blamed on foreign actors like Russia. A lot of this stuff is self perpetuating.yuekit
- @yuekit true dat, but whats from stopping a foreign entity to start the ball rolling, supposedly the flat earth shit started on 4 chan by our comrades as a jokemoldero
- Teach your kids critical thinking. We need a new generation of habitual fact-checkers with a keen nose for bullshitscarabin
- +1 ScarabinMorning_star
- yupmoldero
- the people having the most kids unfortunately are in areas with low education levels. the world is doomed.inteliboy
- My thinking is America hasnt quite been so divided it made no sense for foreign money. But social media and a president who thrives on clixkbait type shit has********
- Gas finally created your Mitch do.estic terrorist group like Al queda or Hamas or as a tifa and blm. And they have been networking for 4 years********
- And now gives them worth of other country and political interest groups to fund. Finly enough bs division has sprouted a weed worth spending on********
- Question is it to late for left who is backing what see.s a commie Trojan horse or go orange face and wait term limit********
- Either way I can't believe blm was organized to set fire for a bit and start riot in my city. Spooky that we may have jihadists types in us now********
- Seriously auto correct...is God awful********
- There is no way in hell deathboy isn’t a construct by one or more of you trying to be the next wendellscarabin
- It's hard to comprehend someone that deluded and stupid, but I argue that he is genuine in every way.monospaced
- Beeswax3
I'm going to counter conspire against right-wing conspiracy nut jobs in the world.
Covid is a virus developed to killl anti-mask supporter conservative idiots. It's a clean-up planned by our left wing overlords, namely Bill Gates, Obama and Jon Stewart.
Look at its name,
Co = Communist
V= Virus
Id = for Idiots
https://www.dw.com/en/germany-pr…
- mg337
All good on the Covid 19 front. :)
We found out that the babysitter's older sister could have only caught it in the evening last Thursday when she saw a cousin and uncle who tested positive. Our kids had their last day with the babysitter Thursday and never saw the older sister.
All good, no reason to get tested on our end.
