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via a friend's facebook personally i think its on point...
Dr. Fauci:
“Chickenpox is a virus. Lots of people have had it, and probably don't think about it much once the initial illness has passed. But it stays in your body and lives there forever, and maybe when you're older, you have debilitatingly painful outbreaks of shingles. You don't just get over this virus in a few weeks, never to have another health effect. We know this because it's been around for years, and has been studied medically for years.
Herpes is also a virus. And once someone has it, it stays in your body and lives there forever, and anytime they get a little run down or stressed-out they're going to have an outbreak. Maybe every time you have a big event coming up (school pictures, job interview, big date) you're going to get a cold sore. For the rest of your life. You don't just get over it in a few weeks. We know this because it's been around for years, and been studied medically for years.
HIV is a virus. It attacks the immune system and makes the carrier far more vulnerable to other illnesses. It has a list of symptoms and negative health impacts that goes on and on. It was decades before viable treatments were developed that allowed people to live with a reasonable quality of life. Once you have it, it lives in your body forever and there is no cure. Over time, that takes a toll on the body, putting people living with HIV at greater risk for health conditions such as cardiovascular disease, kidney disease, diabetes, bone disease, liver disease, cognitive disorders, and some types of cancer. We know this because it has been around for years, and had been studied medically for years.
Now with COVID-19, we have a novel virus that spreads rapidly and easily. The full spectrum of symptoms and health effects is only just beginning to be cataloged, much less understood.
So far the symptoms may include:
Fever
Fatigue
Coughing
Pneumonia
Chills/Trembling
Acute respiratory distress
Lung damage (potentially permanent)
Loss of taste (a neurological symptom)
Sore throat
Headaches
Difficulty breathing
Mental confusion
Diarrhea
Nausea or vomiting
Loss of appetite
Strokes have also been reported in some people who have COVID-19 (even in the relatively young)
Swollen eyes
Blood clots
Seizures
Liver damage
Kidney damage
Rash
COVID toes (weird, right?)
People testing positive for COVID-19 have been documented to be sick even after 60 days. Many people are sick for weeks, get better, and then experience a rapid and sudden flare up and get sick all over again. A man in Seattle was hospitalized for 62 days, and while well enough to be released, still has a long road of recovery ahead of him. Not to mention a $1.1 million medical bill.
Then there is MIS-C. Multisystem inflammatory syndrome in children is a condition where different body parts can become inflamed, including the heart, lungs, kidneys, brain, skin, eyes, or gastrointestinal organs. Children with MIS-C may have a fever and various symptoms, including abdominal pain, vomiting, diarrhea, neck pain, rash, bloodshot eyes, or feeling extra tired. While rare, it has caused deaths.
This disease has not been around for years. It has basically been 6 months. No one knows yet the long-term health effects, or how it may present itself years down the road for people who have been exposed. We literally *do not know* what we do not know.
For those in our society who suggest that people being cautious are cowards, for people who refuse to take even the simplest of precautions to protect themselves and those around them, I want to ask, without hyperbole and in all sincerity:
Why do you risk the lives of others so cavalierly? Why do you decide for others that they should welcome exposure as "getting it over with", when literally no one knows who will be the lucky "mild symptoms" case, and who may fall ill and die. Because while we know that some people are more susceptible to suffering a more serious case, we also know that 20 and 30-year-olds have died, marathon runners and fitness nuts have died, children and infants have died.
Why do you behave as though you know more than medical experts, when those same experts acknowledge that there is so much we don't yet know, but with what we DO know, are smart enough to be scared of how easily this is spread, and recommend baseline precautions such as:
Frequent hand-washing
Physical distancing
Reduced social/public contact or interaction
Mask wearing
Covering your cough or sneeze
Avoiding touching your face
Sanitizing frequently touched surfaces
The more things we can all do to mitigate our risk of exposure, the better off we all are, in my opinion. Not only does it flatten the curve and allow health care providers to maintain levels of service that aren't immediately and catastrophically overwhelmed; it also reduces unnecessary suffering and deaths, and buys time for the scientific community to study the virus in order to come to a more full understanding of the breadth of its impacts in both the short and long term.- "but, he said an incorrect thing once, and even though he changed his expert advice, we can never trust him ever again!"monospaced
- "he was only an expert when he said something wrong and we liked that, but now that he's saying something else, he's not an expert we trust"monospaced
- Very insightful comparison, but probably not Fauci: https://www.snopes.c…akiersky
- but mah freedumbs!_niko
- Common sense...is not so common.********
- also the voice of reason!********
- exactly thisBaskerviIle
- When stressed or fatigued I get Cold Sores... they fucking suck. The worst thing about it is in every OTHER civilized country you can buy Zovir 5% ACICLOVIRjonny_quest_lives
- At just about at any quick market or Pharmacist with no prescription whatsoever but here in 'Merica you can only get a moisturizing lip balm with the followingjonny_quest_lives
- bullshit ingredients: camphor 3.00%, menthol 1.00%, phenol 1.50%, white petrolatum 89.20%jonny_quest_lives
- Real Zovirax here in the states you will most likely get charged $2500 via your insurance... That alone shoud tell you how fucked for profit healthcare is.jonny_quest_lives
- https://www.latimes.…jonny_quest_lives
- It’s expensive here tooGnash
- CanadaGnash
- But not that muchGnash
- @jonny Did a search, here ZOVIRAX creme 5% from GSK costs $4-5 lol********
- ^in israel over the counter $8 proly half with a prescriptionrenderedred
- Anyway, I liked Dr. Fauci ever since his facepalm move in that White House speech...********
- $15 in Australia._me_
- @grafician go into a Walgreens in the united states and show my zovirax in the aisles it's not there... you need a prescription...jonny_quest_lives
- I've been able to hoard it on business trips to Europe... It used to be my last purchase in the terminal before heading back to the states.jonny_quest_lives
- they sell Abreva here in the states over the counter but that might as well be a placebo the stuff is useless.jonny_quest_lives
- @grafician https://www.walgreen…jonny_quest_lives
- US pricing: https://www.healthwa…jonny_quest_lives
- So either hoard during travel... have a friend overseas mail you some or order via Canadian or australian pharmacy willing to ship to the statesjonny_quest_lives
- my point was the US health system is fucked... simple effective cold sore medicine sold over the counter overseas marked up nearly 1200% by insurancejonny_quest_lives
- @jonny I think we clearly made that point very clear! Clearly!********
- Just think the price of the covid vaccine, $500k a pop over insurance buhahahahahahah!********
- Read yesterday a 60 day hospitalisation for covid in the US costs about $1.5 milli LOL********
- @grafician apologies nuance is lost in these little response boxes I thought you meant you were able to find zovirax for $4-5 here (US) not here (Romania)jonny_quest_lives
- Well said. Also, Lysine!futurefood
- U forget Johnny us med gov res subsidizes you. You are welcome********