Sexual Harassment of the DAY
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- imbecile1
A recent survey by The Economist/YouGov found that approximately 25 percent of millennial-age American men think asking someone for a drink is harassment. More than a third of millennial men and women say that if a man compliments a woman’s looks it is harassment.
- And if they think the guy is hot af it becomes flirting.Maaku
- I don't believe that statistic. I'd like to see the way the question was posed. Also, there's a potato [sic] likelihood they be trollin'SteveJobs
- Wait, can I sic myself?SteveJobs
- I wonder which generation's been teaching millennials that idea.pango
- cant help of thinking of 1984 when they take away peoples sexuality. Men have been cunts in the past. As have women. I wish it was as simple as drawing a linemugwart
- sand and humanity to move forward.
I go by raw honesty in my personal philosophy. No one can get mislead.mugwart - Its heart breaking to see what kids have to grow up with with but then again. Ghosts of the past haunts the present.mugwart
- Naw, the stat just means millennial guys don't buy girls drinks anymorerobotron3k
- Sorry robo that you don't get no free drinks no more :(pango
- robo has never bought a drink for a woman, it goes against his personal creedmonospaced
- Awesome I'm gonna save some money not buying drinks.cannonball1978
- _niko5
Girls are fucked. I’ve had girls belittle me for NOT doing what Franco did lol
Damned if you do, damned if you don’t.
- #wasntmerobotron3k
- As a woman, I think about how the last decade of my life would be dif, if every time I did something really stupid, I simply yelled "power imbalance!"BustySaintClaire
- ^ lolset
- Ianbolton3
Come on 'men', how do we make things better? Nobody needs this shit. It's fucked up and this thread's only going to include the cunts who make the news. Not the other completely self-absorbed, mindfucks who wait outside trains for that extra second look, thinking they're slimey, pathetic mouth needs to be connected to a womans to really make her feel respected.
It really is blowing my mind. :-(
- I felt kinda sheltered after the discovery last year that 'dick pics' were actually a thing. I guess there are deep psychological issues and simple surface onesSteveJobs
- as well. Many men project what we wouldn't be as offended by - the unsolicited reveal of a woman's body. Going beyond that, however, I don't understand.SteveJobs
- mutual desire helps in those situations. id love to see a guy naked IF we were on a date AND we discussed mutual attraction and wanting to do more.shellie
- shocker: coming to an agreement about pushing boundaries in some sort of sexual exchange does not turn women off.shellie
- if i was single i would literally love if someone asked to kiss me. 8th grade moves are back in style. "may i kiss you" *swoon*shellie
- I get that, and it seems generally accepted in my circle of friends that’s how things work. But that’s not how it works for some other men.Ianbolton
- I want to know how to change that. Maybe I’ll set up a support group or something, but someone has to set an example or be a good ear at least.Ianbolton
- i do know there were at least 10 men who saw that assult described below and nobody even checked to see if I was okay. somewhere in there is an opp to helpshellie
- It’s really shitty. I’d say over 50% of all the women I know have been or know somebody who’s been in similar situations or worse too.Ianbolton
- my most supportive friends on issues on women or people of color, don't argue with me they just listen and try hard to understand why i feel the way i do.shellie
- if you think that story is crazy read this. http://www.qbn.com/r… ended in October but really went off the rails last march (pre Weinstein).shellie
- http://www.qbn.com/r…shellie
- These guys we are hearing about aren't normal guys. Very few of them are from normal towns etc. These prob are psychopathsmugwart
- Wish this wasn't put out in the media as a purely 'male" thing but more a psychological condition.mugwart
- It’s mostly male psychological condition tho.pango
- true, but only because historically men have had to be the "predators". To be fair where I grew up it was the opposite.mugwart
- not escaping this discusting behaviour - just worried how anti men the world is getting when it not 99% of men.mugwart
- Just like the world is currently anti-Muslim because of a couple of suicide bombers? 1 person ruins it for all!Ianbolton
- No I don't see it that way. The world is only anti pervy men from this particular subject. Can't really say the world is anti men when we rule everything.pango
- Even cooking! Lol. I wonder how many top ten highest paying chefs are women. Yet that's the thing we stereo type women with. "Get back in the kitchen!"pango
- I hear what you are saying but growing up in a very old household, it wasn't clear cut that man had the power due to work.mugwart
- My grandfather was one of the Queen's advicer, major player in old school buisness london. My grandmother never worked in her life and she had more power thanmugwart
- he did.
I'm not saying the world is right, nor that what we are seeing and hearing is wrong. I just see everything he hear about so simplified.mugwart - These guys are cunts. These guys need to be made examples of. Most people have enough morality never to do this.mugwart
- I guess I'm more interested in the thought behaviours over gender arguments.mugwart
- Also going back to my grandfather. Growing up around these cunts, i saw narasitics, these vipers and it wasn't just "men" it was in the mindset of the family.mugwart
- I think it's all about individualism and understanding our own spaces in an age in which gender roles have completely changed or even disappeared completelyIanbolton
- Well I don't know how to compare those well connected families with majority of the population... I simply don't know much about them.pango
- Men aren't going to give up that so-called power as a lot of it is competitive human nature. But they're also not going to openly talk about it either.Ianbolton
- What I know is these pervy mind set can exist in every demographic of men. Everyone is normal till they're not.pango
- Women too but for some reason less than men. I'm gonna guess the problem is rooted in the culture.pango
- Give a man 50 wives and he could have 50 times more children. But a woman with 50 husbands?Ianbolton
- Maybe it’s biological? https://www.redpeppe…Ianbolton
- its hard to describe - its about education and mindsets. Men have had a roll where he is educated to step forth into the light.mugwart
- I bet these people are psychopaths, narcissists and almost no real traits of humanity left in them. I bet they had experiences with decimated their psychesmugwart
- Humanity is moving forth and fast (about time) but I see it stop short at "man" "woman" which undervalues all humanity.mugwart
- 19 I hitched hiked around Vietnam as off the beaten track as I could. I was getting offers all the time from women/fathers/pips. They were shocked that I refusemugwart
- so I know its this is everywhere. I'm not blind to this. I nearly killed someone when Iwas offered a small girl.mugwart
- that said I have been involve with a narcissistic women and seen them decimate lives. Growing up it was normal to sleep around. Get pregnant choose the best...mugwart
- thats maturnalty fraud and never discussed. my argument here is that there are major problems we are all facing but they are being guided by media & govermentsmugwart
- better put, we have been educated to point fingers at each other when those above us are doing fucked up shit. We haven't been educated to look within.mugwart
- Wouldnt it be cool if we got taught psychology, Jung etc at schools. Work us out as well as others. I want me kid to be writing about his shadow self not howmugwart
- "Churchill saved the world" (I shit you not)mugwart
- Ian... that 50 wife's thing is comparing women to live stock... birthing is the only purpose for them... ya... no.pango
- Not saying only men. But mostly men.
I'd say it's the culture. Culture as in moral value and mind set passed down from generations. Most of the time with outpango - Questions just because it's has always been that way so it shall remain.pango
- Our generations are seriously blessed with information hyperdrive. Where we are questioning and reevaluating everything. Even that flat earth thing...pango
- The article explains things from a Darwinian evolutionary perspective, so not sure it’s completely wrong if that’s been our history. How do we change our ways?Ianbolton
- We are on the same page! I agree with this.
I just see men suffering as well, be it differently. Like to stand up for all!mugwart - It suggests men have always had to compete for the women. We are naturally more competitive. Now we have less of a need to compete in the same wayIanbolton
- Ian. Ya we would always have those instincts. But as society evolves, perhaps the path of least resistance is to adapt.pango
- Mug, I get where you’re at. Our current status is to try individually to work who or what we are when existentially we’re under less threat than ever before.Ianbolton
- Mug. I agree with men suffering. We have higher suicide rate than women. But I think it's best to discuss it as 2 different subjects.pango
- In fact, the biggest threat to males on this planet is suicide. So technically we’re a bigger threat to ourselves. Let’s understand that.Ianbolton
- Whenever the issue of men suffering gets brought up during the subject of women suffering caused by men, the discussion never progresses.pango
- And why are mens suffering only being brought up when men's are being accused of causing suffering? Can't we have that discussion with out having to sound likepango
- Men prey on women because men are suffering? It's really not a justification.pango
- Totally. Maybe we need to ‘man the fuck up’?! Or maybe it’d help if people just listened instead of smashing out brainless opinionsIanbolton
- pango rides for women. good on you, sir.shellie
- Thx :D But just you wait. Give me sometime and I'll saying something completely stupid. https://i.imgur.com/…pango
- ^ Haha. It's a tightrope mate!Ianbolton
- Just to specify, none of our comments are justifying why Weinstein was a complete power-hungry prick abusing women the way he did!Ianbolton
- Agreed, these guys are cunts & need to be strung out to dry. As with all these thieves & abusing cunts. I hope these cunts were involved in stealing my workmugwart
- shit sounds too personal!mugwart
- In terms of how to correct this cultural behavier. I think we just need to call it out when we see it. The hardest part will be with friends...pango
- I believe in honesty, sounds corney but if we all are honest and every moment, i think only good things can come. I do believe that our minds are no longer oursmugwart
- so will take a while to shift through the clutter up there!
But Im in agreement with what you said. Honest and respectmugwart
- colin_s3
@PonyBoy - it's because of how our news media and culture work in terms of the ability for the public to respond.
If Matt Lauer gets accused of assault but remains a host on the Today show, they lose ads and viewers at an astonishing rate. It'd be difficult to come back from at a PR level.
Politicians, meanwhile, simply have to wait out election cycles. Even then, they don't answer to news directors, but rather can purchase the news directors (or just a shit ton of airtime). All of this on top of natural voting demographics being what they are and the American electorate generally having tunnel vision when it comes to allegiance, you have pedophiles with four point leads in Alabama and predators in the Oval Office.
If our election system was reformed it could lead to greater, more immediate accountability (or at least things like not being backed mysteriously by out of state Super PACs), but as it stands the people who are most likely to have their careers ruined by this will be exclusively public figures who depend on consumers to respond at some level to their presence.
- That's a good answerFax_Benson
- meanwhile tax dollars are used as hush money to cover-up the politician's BS... oddly enough being reported to us 'consumers' by... well... not Matt Lauer LOL!!PonyBoy
- https://i.imgflip.co…PonyBoy
- SNL should do a skit where the anchorperson finds out that they're being fired for sexual harassment while they're reading the newsGnash
- amenGuyFawkes
- & lol @ nash’s commentGuyFawkes
- Gnash that sounds too good for how SNL has been these days.colin_s
- utopian2
- https://media.giphy.…GuyFawkes
- I suggested a psych evaluation since the first day he became president, clearly he is mental. But even that test would be dodgy cos he is the fucking president.helloeatbreathedrive
- And now 25% of America thinks it's a conspiracy from Hillary and CNN.omahadesigns
- He already admitted to it to.omahadesigns
- Using the 'Shaggy' plea. 'It wasn't me'...PhanLo
- This cunted circus never ends.face_melter
- what a loon.Gnash
- ApeRobot0
Do you guys grope random womens butt, or having inappropriate behaviors toward the opposite sex?
Personally , i never did, i feel like maybe i'm missing something.
Looks like it is some kind of a normal man behavior regarding this thread.- You missed out? Lolpango
- i want to be an alphaApeRobot
- Toward the opposite sex? No.i_monk
- ^lolpango
- lol monkGuyFawkes
- paging robofadein11
- I just freelanced at a place. A guy was all over the females. They often asked him to stop. My view was if a woman has to ask, you've already gone too far.sothere
- ask or say stop? big difference.fadein11
- from 'fuck off' to 'I just want you not to touch me.' sorry hard to give exact transcripts in 140 characters.sothere
- So towards same sex is appropriate?rabattski
- I'm always inappropriate to women, esp when I give them the lead role in a block buster Hollywood trilogy... and you know what? they never complain.robotron3k
- Till they dopango
- utopian4
Ivanka Trump warned to stay quiet after speaking out about sexual assault allegations.
Breitbart editor-in-chief: Ivanka Trump should stay quiet "especially when there's been so many allegations against President Trump"
- Every time this photo is posted, I feel it is my patriotic duty to point out that they are sitting on a statue of two parrots fucking.garbage
- And the top parrot is barfing out a fountain. Because nothing says class like a photoshoot where you fondle your daughtergarbage
- ..on a statue of literal fucking parrots.
Also his shoes are garbage.garbage - incest-spatsfadein11
- Miami Vice styleesureshot
- #DentureDonaldGuyFawkes
- Continuity1
I'm frankly much, much more amazed at the people who seem to be genuinely shocked at the whole Weinstein/Spacey/Charlie Sheen/Louis CK/etc/etc/etc thing, than I am about the scandals themselves.
Seriously, people have never heard of casting couch? That Hollywood might have a kiddy diddler or two? Come on, now, let's not be naïve.
I'm in no way excusing any of the bad behaviour, but I am rather surprised that it seems to come as news to some people that this stuff happens.
- When adults with minds of children get to experience the world, this naivete comes out.pr2
- Ok cool. Some people are naive and surprised. Funny I'm actually not surprised by that. Cool coolpango
- So what do you think the public should do to prevent this from happening?pango
- Stop idolizing and granting special privileges to these celebrities would be a great start.BabySnakes
- He says its inevitable, so accept it. One of the most bizarre and meaningless argument that I've heard for a while.Beeswax
- So ditch em when allegations come out.pango
- who was shocked? Don't confuse concern with shockfadein11
- The general public was shocked, which is what I was referring to. I should have clarified. I know we're all more cynical than that on QBN.Continuity
- ok - I'm not sure how many would have been in the UK. We have had a whole decade of scandals on this level and bigger.fadein11
- The other thing I want to point out is that my post in no way condones, approves or supports sexual harrassment. This behaviour is not okay ...Continuity
- ... and should be actively combatted by anyone who suffers it, and those victims should be supported by the rest of us.Continuity
- In no way do I support pr2's caveman attitude on the topic. Precisely the opposite.Continuity
- Cognitive dissonance is a ball ache.jtb26
- Ianbolton2
As much as Brand does my head in, when people suggest he's groomed all his followers into not believing the mainstream media so he could get away with this is absurd and ridiculous. Maybe it was obvious that his past was going to come back to bite him, as he's clearly been a massive bellend with some women, so defending or attacking him is pointless. Inevitably he's going to struggle to get over these accusations.
His interview with Gabor Mate about addiction was profoundly beautiful, while his book about addiction was also really useful to me. And he also did this: https://www.gawker.com/russell-b…
- The whole country is looking far too deep into this story. He groomed and raped women and children for years. He's just a sicko. No conspiracies at all.HAYZ1LLLA
- hayz1lla is a private detective, we should all trust his opinions.doesnotexist
- in hayz1lla we trustpango
- Attack the Euro-American world order and this what happens They tried to do this to Roger Waters earlier this year. Banned him from Frankfurt, tried to get hisKhurram
- tour cancelled all because he opposed NATOs proxy-war in Ukeland. They called him Putin's puppet.Khurram
- It was the Centrist NAFO scum on Twitter who tried to do this to Waters, the press followed. They called him an anti-semite for speaking up for Palestinians.Khurram
- They try to silence our voices these Centrists. The so-called "liberals" of the BBC, and The Guardian - Polly Toynbee and Simon Jenkins.Khurram
- No conspiracy. They know the shit they can stir. They are the fanatics.Khurram
- right! those involved with war in Ukraine cares about him :|pango
- why call it Ukeland and not Ukraine? Bit weird. There's someone else who doesn't recognise it on the terms it has set for itself.Fax_Benson
- Polly Toynbee, LOL. Nobody's ever listened to Polly Toynbee. This was a years-long investigation by the Times, instigated by the alleged victims.Fax_Benson
- and resulting in ANOTHER embarrassing revelation about the BBC's complicity in enabling a sex case.Fax_Benson
- Seems there's no limit to what some people will overlook if the person involved is an advocate for their political beliefs. Fucking grim.Fax_Benson
- Because I hate those Banderite American proxies.Khurram
- Nothing will come of this or their "investigations". No reports, no recommendations, no arrests, no sackings.. nothing.Khurram
- Just an empty media furore with the bosses mouthing the same empty rhetoric.Khurram
- until it eventually dies down.Khurram
- Gardener0
- you can't sue someone for breaking up with you or falling out of love. She was 16 going on 30. she lived a glamorous rockstar lifestyle for 3 years. jeez._niko
- also, why now? it's been almost 50 years_niko
- retirement $$PonyBoy
- 401k Plans Hate Herutopian
- didn't he confess already?oey_oey
- Perv Fever Foreverutopian
- @_niko multiple states temporarily lift the statute of limitations on civil sexual-abuse and harassment claims, this is what makes these possible.sted
- He wrote about his underage love affair in his 2011 memoir. Dude is going to spend some time in prison as a pedophile.PioneerDJ303
- Apparently it was ok being a pedo in the 70's. Just ask Bowie or Polanski.NBQ00
- SteveJobs-1
I dated a who a girl not too long ago who was raped by a celeb that everyone (almost literally) on this earth knows. He's always on talk shows and being interviewed and invited to various celeb-filled events. Anyway, he was in her hometown one day at a club and had one of his people invite her to his table. He made all kinds of suggestions about how he could help her business and eventually invited her to leave her friend behind and go with him to his hotel. When they got to his hotel he kept handing her drinks. The next thing she knew, she was waking up that next morning with his fingers inside her. She felt confused about the situation and didn't feel comfortable talking about it at length (understandable).
Fast-forward to several months later. One of her idiot guy friends who she was having a spat with, knew about the situation (which she was telling everyone about, but oddly leaving out the ending) tried to blackmail this celeb. So the celeb had his assistant reach out to her to basically make friends and ensure that if this were to get out or go to court that she would testify on the celeb's behalf. The assistant stayed in contact with her, keeping the conversations casual, and eventually offered to meet her for a 'fun business brunch' to discuss ways they could maybe help her business (this is still the assistant btw, not the celeb). When I pleaded with her to not go, she got defensive, stating that girls like her don't get many opportunities like this and that it could really help her career. We stopped talking shortly thereafter (for other reasons) but in the end the friend eventually had his bluff called and he never followed through with his threats to out the celeb, so I have no idea where things left off with her. But I'm just waiting for the day that someone outs this guy. And I'm curious, depending on whether she's gotten from him what she can use to further herself and her career, whether she'll jump on the bandwagon and cry foul.
It's a sad situation. Everyone in that story is a part of the problem. The celeb for using his influence to bait and manipulate a young girl (23 at the time). The young girl for tolerating his actions and willingness to help cover them up (to "save his marriage", reputation, etc. and further her name and associate with him) in spite of the obvious trauma it caused her. The assistant for being an accomplice to this whole situation. And finally, the asshole 'friend' for, well... for just being an asshole.
The thing is, in many other situations like this, trying to make every a clear case of the female being the victim is ignorant and undermines the efforts by those girls/women who are trying to spread awareness of the actual issue but struggle with abusive relationships because of mental health issues, or hoping to fix/rehabilitate the man, or save the relatioship, or family/kids, etc.
Having said that, these girls who fully understand what kind of trouble they are getting into with celebs but do it for the clout or to further their career only to later suffer the inevitable (bold, italicize, and underline that) emotional trauma/regret that comes with that kind of exchange - they are enabling other non-victims to do the same thing and destroying many innocent lives and the lives of anyone in their wake. What's that called? Oh yeah a sociopath... We need to stop enabling them.
- Interesting. thanks for sharing. You make good points. It gets very complex...but in the end...the perpetrator is...the perpetratordkoblesky
- And what is different is you describe one incident, where this MM situation takes place over years....dkoblesky
- I don't know MM or ERW personally and can't attest to their intent/actions, but his wrongdoing doesn't automatically exculpate her or others.SteveJobs
- But I'm hesitant to judge either way bc yes the situation is complex enough without us all weighing in on something we didn't witness first hand with each girl.SteveJobs
- Somebody has to pay the lawyersStoicLevels
- we dont know him. we dont know her. we might think we do, but we don't. we don't even know what exactly happened. too many detectives *srcsmpango
- he's a scum. she's an opportunist schemer.
blah blah blah.
why not just let it play out? maybe details will be released later and we will actually know what hpango - appened.pango
- Just curious, is the celeb known for this behaviour now or likely still getting away with it?mort_
- Names, ni**ababydick
- every time i hear one of these stories im reminded mathew broderick killed two women in ireland in 1987 through reckless driving and went on to star in a hondakingsteven
- superbowl commercial...kingsteven
- @SteveJobs so do you actually know who the celeb is? or just know from her that the celeb is world famous?Krassy
- @mort, no he’s not known for it at all. Maybe it was a one time thing? No idea
@Krassy, yes I know who it is.SteveJobs - Oops I just noticed I posted my notes in the wrong post.pango
- kaiyohtee3
- But he looks like such a stand up guyLMFAO
- my mate told me this morning... And my reply, "and what? you didn't see that coming?" sorry, it was almost a given.necromation
- Chick on the left is hawt.mort_
- Sources say Evan became suspicious when she learned the name of the man she was dating was... Marilyn Manson.DRIFTMONKEY
- imbecile2
Parents of Patients at Ariz. Facility Seeking Answers After Woman in Vegetative State Gives Birth
- This is terrifyingspl33nidoru
- I’ll summarize: They didn’t know she was preggers until she began moaning, then gave birth, the baby is healthy.robotron3k
- How do you not know someone you are looking after is pregnant? Jesus fucking christ.cannonball1978
- #MAGA Alert!utopian
- Arizona is the new FloridaLMFAO
- NBQ003
5-1
- awww c'mon!! Arsenal's got like 6 dudes on the injury list... lol :DPonyBoy
- LOL!renderedred
- they got drgs-edpango
- Arse Analjagara
- Bennn-5
damn
Maynard James Keenan (TOOL singer) accused of raping a fan in 2000
- That new TOOL album will probably wait for ever now! He's in deep shit. Read the whole thing <<Bennn
- We did. Five hours before you poted.Continuity
- *postedContinuity
- Rock star having sex with fans backstage for years!! when did this start happening?!robotron3k
- lolMaaku
- Its extremely frightening that an anonymous post on the internet, whether true or not, can destroy the life of a man. Guilty by social media...robotron3k
- ^ yeah.mugwart
- don't worry robo, you can't be accused if you pay for it.dorf
- just wait until all of the Van Halen, Def Leppard, Bon Jovi, Motley Crue, etc etc groupies start to speak out.fooler
- Brooklyn Vegan.
LOLOLOLOLseverian - He actually did this many times to many people. People are speaking out on Reddit. Of course he's not alone, almost every rock star did it.Bennn
- People are also calling out how it is false with provided facts.severian
- Ben, you’re such a gossip whore. Small minds discuss people...imbecile
- OHHH shietpango
- anonymous internet posts ftwinteliboy
- Right, who knows if it's a woman or a man doing it, but it's fucking insane social media is being used to assassin practically anybody...robotron3k
- Maynard is one fucked up individual, i wouldnt be surprise at all if its all realBennn
- I'd say it's the previous band mate who got kicked out of the band.pango
- ^ or nickleback ;-)mugwart
- Uggggghpango
- Please stop reminding us the mistake we made.pango
- If one forget history they live to repeat history - let us never forget Nickleback!mugwart
- Nooooooooopango
- fake allegationNBQ00
- Akagiyama1
Noooooo! Not Morgan Freeman! :(
- "Hi girl, can I get in your Wormhole?"M01XXX
- Would these women come out if the inappropriate behavior came from someone like Chris Evans or Chris Hemsworth?Maaku
- It's inappropriate regardless, just curious as to how many would consent if the actor was "hot".Maaku
- CNN has a long ass article of nothing but comments he made (and some attempts at lifting a skirt). I obviously don't approve but does that justify such length ?spl33nidoru
- A third woman who worked on a recent movie of Freeman's recalled an incident at the film's wrap party. "He was looking at my breasts, and I told him,freedom
- 'My eyes are up here.' Then we went to take a group photo and he pressed himself up against me. It was inappropriate."freedom
- lool wormholeGuyFawkes
- wait what?notype
