Star Trek: Discovery
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- i_monk1
It still doesn't feel like Trek.
- I still don't see it. Aside from new uniforms and ships, this has all the classic themes and even some of the same characters.CyBrainX
- The actress they chose to play Sarek's wife seemed to be a cross between the actress from the original series and Wynona Ryder.CyBrainX
- It’s Lydia from Breaking Bad.dopepope
- War isn't a defining Trek theme, and characters (officers) being assholes to each other isn't something we've ever seen in the main cast.i_monk
- Voyager's Equinox episode also told us using aliens as disposable equipment is un-Starfleet.i_monk
- But Seru was the only one who was in favor of that and he regretted it later.CyBrainX
- I did not recognize Lydia. Good catch.CyBrainX
- it's just bad tv. admit it.inteliboy
- Gnash2
Humans are just starting to understand this nearly invincible creature — and it's fascinating
- How did Discovery get to the nebula to save Sarek without the Tartigrade? Or did they use regular warp?Akagiyama
- They use their engineer's body now.ETM
- How did I miss that? I thought he almost died when he did it.Akagiyama
- I could be wrong, but I am sure it was referenced in a throwaway line. It wasn't shown.ETM
- Huh! Thanks for the heads up, will pay more attention lol.Akagiyama
- < Kanye?CyBrainX
- Wolfboy0
The guy the Captain rescued is going to be a super-villain, mark my words...
- The rumour mills is grinding on this Ash guy being Voq the Whingey Klingon, sent to spy on the Federation after spending his time with the Klingon nuns.Continuity
- The again, the Movie Pilot website also has an article on this Voq fella eventually turning out to be The Albino on DS9, so, yeah. There you go.Continuity
- It's very possible he's Voq and it's likely (and predictable) in showing us Lorca has a Tribble, that it will be the mechanism for his identity being revealed.ETM
- If Lorca finds a Klingon because of a tribble reaction then it shouldn't be a surprise when Kirk's crew discovers tribbles hate Klingons.CyBrainX
- ETM0
Well the audience seems pretty divided. Multiply by having to pay in the US for a subscription. Will their strategy of alienating a lot of the core fanbase work? Time will tell, I guess.
- The cynics seem to forget or are unaware of many things from the past that set precedent for what's happening now.CyBrainX
- tank020
Waiting for Riker's beard.
Riker's Beard
Euphemism for a moment in time (typically in pop culture) where something or someone that was lackluster and/or underachieving suddenly and surprisingly became much better and exciting. Taken from Star Trek - The Next Generation, which many fans considered wanting until Commander Riker grew a beard at the start of Season Two, after which the show was solid and well-received for the rest of its run.- Oh, I have to qualify this.
Yes, Riker's Beard made *Riker* and much of TNG better.
Sadly, the gain in awesome was off-set by ...
... Dr Pulaski. Bleurgh.Continuity - I liked Dr. Pulaski more than Beverley. That move was Gene Roddenberry's last with Star Trek for the most part. They shunned him after that.CyBrainX
- and then brought back Gates McFadden.CyBrainX
- Pulaski was the worst, could not wait for Beverly to come backsofakingback
- Oh, I have to qualify this.
- scarabin2
half of star trek is cringe-worthy stuff. we love it because it's kitsch and we grew up on it. this show comes out and each episode looks like a full-on movie in terms of production value, the stories are solid, the characters and races build on previous incarnations and it's still a good time. no idea what you guys are complaining about, exactly
you want what.... more corniness?
- +1
and the same people loved Force Awakens pmslfadein11 - < and Thank you right back.CyBrainX
- trueCalderone2000
- +1
- CyBrainX2
I don't have a problem if the show doesn't resemble other star trek but I don't even think that's true. It's sci fi. There are familiar races even a few familiar characters. It's in the original timeline. There's the theme of seeking out new life. There are ethical decisions about how to interact with the new life. There are detached views of humanity from other points of view and you can tell there will be more. It feels a lot more like Star Trek to me than Deep Space 9 ever did.
- ETM0
The show in itself, is passable. It just should be called something else. If the words "Federation, Star Fleet and Klingons" were removed from the script, you are left with basically nothing embodying Trek.
- CyBrainX0
It's amazing how fickle people turned after 3 episodes.
- Watch the first three episodes of TNG to comparenb
- 5 episodes but who's countinghotroddy
- The first 2 seasons of TNG where bad. Really bad.tank02
- I'm a life long fan. TNG is my favorite series but that first season was pretty weak.CyBrainX
- check out the podcast start trek TNC with Matt Miro & Andy Secunda. Hilarious take on SO1 & S02tank02
- hotroddy0
the most likable character is Harry Mudd... and it's amazing how they've slowly emasculated Star Trek over the years.
The ORVILLE is way better. They know their target demo.
- Trek was never overtly 'masculine'. The womanizing Kirk is a meme based on like two episodes.i_monk
- i disagree. The original was super chauvenistic.. but I guess it's a reflection of the times more than a reflection of the series..hotroddy
- even in TNG, William Riker took the role of womanizer... they didn't want Piccard to be that guy.hotroddy
- I'm the target demographic if there ever was one and I don't like Seth McFarlane. I don't get my jollies on geek references.CyBrainX
- detritus1
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Swearing.No. No, Star Trek, No.
- ETM1
So saying 'fuck' is cool now in Trek? A weak stunt to get social media buzz?
- The word 'fuck' is the least this horrendous show's problems.Continuity
- haven't seen the ep yet but reading that it was like hearing Wesley Crusher say 'fuck'... awkward and out of place for sure I'd think. :/PonyBoy
- ^ haven't seen the episode yet...CyBrainX
- and?PonyBoy
- It was pointless and really added nothing. Low-brow attempt at humour. Thus a gimmick.ETM
- Continuity-1
God damn, I fucking hate this miserable series.
Effectively, what the producers have done is watch 'Equinox' (Parts 1 and 2) from Voyager, and decided to base what is shaping up to be an entire series premise around it, with this whole Project Porcini/Tardigrade the Truffle Pig bullshit. Basically, re-imagining the 'Equinox' two-parter. Ugh. And absolutely none of these fucking cunty characters is even the least bit likable, let alone believable.
Fuck this shit. I'd rather staple my bag to my leg, and watch 'Enterprise'.
- And yet, like the sucker that I am, I will keep watching because I'm starved for even a little bit of Trek.Continuity
- I had to look that up. I don't see what the similarity is but I don't remember this one very well.
https://www.youtube.…CyBrainX - I still think it's gotten off to the best start of any of the series so far.CyBrainX
- Gnash0
I'm liking it. But it's just another space show, to me. I don't get the"star trek" vibe that the other series had.
- <ETM
- Just wait til you see the gender neutral snowflake running med bay 5fadein11
- The Orville feels more Trek than this.i_monk
- Is Orville just another excuse for Seth McFarlane to do Shatner impressions? Or try to remake Galaxy Quest?CyBrainX
- No Shatner Impressions. Maybe some Galaxy Quest. It's actually not too bad.ETM
- If Fox allows it to survive long enough to find its groove, it could become quit good.ETM
- star trek has had gender oddity since the early days. nothing new there, fadeinGnash
- I bet you fucking hate it then hahafadein11
- why would I hate it? -- it doesn't even register.Gnash
- you seem obsessed, though. Take the plunge and do it, stop just thinking about it. you'll have lots of company.Gnash
- Remember when Riker fell in love with a gender neutral alien? Kirk fought duplicates of a few female replicated versions of himself.CyBrainX
- goddamnit riker!ernexbcn
- necromation0
i'm really digging the more dark and grittiness of this show... echoing some of the other thoughts, Star Trek was always 'teatime' safe... So they would just boggle you super science and hope you would just hang in... This series is much more my cup of tea and i actually find the Klingons actually scary... And please more melted people... that was fucking wicked!
- ETM0
I was flicking through the channels and caught the last half of ep. 3 again. I dunno, the more I think about it the more frustrating that they just didn't make it after the TNG/Voyager timeline. They wanted to update the tech, it would make more sense. They want a conflict, then they can have it without having to retcon existing lore. They want nuance through moral ambiguity, great, it makes more sense in the future where maybe the Federation is stretched and tested in a way that makes the Borg look like a Sunday afternoon.
The idea of this new warp tech is silly in the current context (but would be perfect in a future one). We know it doesn't exist over a hundred years later, so why? Either it fails or it's a black op that Section 31 buries and even dealing with the Borg, or losing Voyager they don't take out of moth balls.
They're too scared to operate without the crutch of nostalgia, even when it works against the narrative/premise.
- <Continuity
- I agree. It's still pretty awesome though..set
- I have faith they will explain these discrepancies. Some were mentioned on the first After Trek show. They tell too much in my opinion. I don't like spoilers.CyBrainX
- ^ Hope so...ETM
- detritus1
Ah, I'd meant to check this out :)
"So in "Stark Trek: Discovery", they have the Vulcan debug some code. Apparently, Starfleet still runs on Windows."
- https://moviecode.tu…detritus
- Aren't they using quantum computers in Trek? The code doesn't reference "states."ETM
- If I had to script all day with Eurostile Extended, I'd want to spoon my own eyeballs out.Continuity
- Fucking geeks! =Dset
- DeleteFileW -- unicode version of DeleteFile
Why not, at some point Unicode will support alien charactersdrgs - __stdcall calling convention -- for 32 bits only thoughdrgs
- ernexbcn2
I'm digging it, it's very different than the previous shows but I'm ok with this.
- detritus1
I much prefer this slightly harder, adult-oriented style of Trek — as much a fan as I've been since TNG, I've always felt ST a little limp, safe and early-evening centric. Indeed, the very first time I saw Encounter at Farpoint, on VHS (!), I thought it was terribly safe and cloistered, even as a kid.
Best thing is - none of that insipid happydappy colourful West Coast-themed 90s crap...
Fuck you, Neelix.
- ha. we defo agree on all of this :)fadein11
- Shittiest character ever.dopepope
- Give me Neelix over Quark or any member of his brood any day.Continuity
- No, I'm going through DS9 at the moment (all others finished, finally!) and without a doubt, Neelix is the worstestest.detritus
- I know one character out of all the Trek series who is worse than Neelix:
Harry Fucking Kim.Continuity - yeah... but Jeri Ryan...PonyBoy
- ... she used to assimilate me in the shower before schoolPonyBoy
- Left little nanoprobes all over the shower pan, huh?ETM
- Resistance to my left hand was futilePonyBoy
- Hahahadetritus
- Hahahaha!Continuity
- The only thing worse than Neelix was Tuvix.i_monk
- Why? Didn't he have a right to live?!?ETM
- Shit Tuvix was so bad. Even how their fucking uniforms blended. Seriously?ETM
- Like what the actual fuck?
http://4.bp.blogspot…ETM - How does completely forgettable Harry Kim get mentioned in this discussion before WESLEY CRUSHER????CyBrainX
- But, yeah, Neelix is just about as bad. He's painful.CyBrainX
- Season 1 and 2 Wesley Crusher was insufferable, I agree. After that, I totally didn't mind him.Continuity