Star Trek: Discovery
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- Wolfboy0
Is there any problem that the new Star Trek can’t solve by kicking, punching, stabbing and shooting the fuck out of it?
I’m just about over the fact that the ridiculous levels of technology they have in an era before Kirk, it’s still bullshit, but whatever. But the general tone of the show is just crap.
There was a point tonight where certain characters needed a plan to get out of a situation and that plan was kick-punch-shoot-stab.
I’ve got this far so I’ll probably see out this season, but if they don’t do something interesting I don’t think I’ll bother with the second.
- The franchise has never paid much attention to tech continuity. How many problems are solved by tech that's never mentioned again?i_monk
- Yeah, I still think it’s been a bizare decision to make this before the original series, but it’s the general violent action tone it’s taken that has bothered..Wolfboy
- ...me more. The whole thing is just so blunt.Wolfboy
- This turd of a show is shockingly violent, actually, and it's a real put-off.Continuity
- Shockingly violent? Really?CyBrainX
- In the context of Star Trek? Absolutely. And needlessly gruesome, too.Continuity
- i_monk0
The two big twists of the show so far were spoiled months ago in online forums, so I think I'm going to stop reading anything and try to enjoy what's left.
- i literally just this past few days finished the latter half of the last series of GoT. If you want to avoid spoilers, it is possible.
Possible, not enjoyable.detritus - I am figuratively incensed by how easily the wall came down in the end.
</spoiler>detritus - Well, I was just going to say how I'm two seasons behind and only had one spoiler so far but now it's two.CyBrainX
- I was just kidding, the wall's still there. I hate that series!detritus
- i literally just this past few days finished the latter half of the last series of GoT. If you want to avoid spoilers, it is possible.
- ETM0
It's all just retcon wankery. I'm sure season 2 will see substantial ratings/subscriber drop off. I planned to stick through season one, but not sure I can make it. And I don't have to even subscribe to watch, it's just on TV here in Canada.
- sted0
What I don't get is that Sarus character isn't such a careless fuckface right, he is the one who is always overreacting right?
So why not spend the discovery part of the episode investigating the murder and the rest can remain on that other ship?
tilly should use that spore emanation flux or "some shit" to reconstruct the homicide, because as we know lieutenant theotherginger can see through time (or something like that) and in startrek you can suck out memories from heads and not just one way. and maybe this way it will make more sense how the fakk discovery's crew knew the secret of ash
job done, go home.
- sted3
- ... and she's one of the least annoying on the show.Continuity
- Still. She's not *quite* as annoying as, say ...
KAI FUCKING WINN.Continuity - Tilly is by far the most annoying character on the show but still better than most of the characters from DS9.CyBrainX
- In no particular order Kai Winn, Jake Sisko, Nog, Dukat, the entire cast of Enterprise, the entire cast of Discovery, and Harry Fucking Kim are the ones I findContinuity
- ... the most annoying. Even more than poor Wesley Crusher.Continuity
- I also forgot to add Rom to that list. Fucking Rom.Continuity
- I have to take exception with anyone being more annoying than Wesley. And you didn't even mention Neelix. I liked Jake even though he didn't serve much purpose.CyBrainX
- The Ferengi were the worst species in the canon and most of the DS9 cast made that the worst series. The writing didn't help either.CyBrainX
- During its first run, I wasn't not at all a fan of DS9, bar a few episodes like. I hated all the poltics, the Bajoran religion and all the war stuff.Continuity
- Having recently finished binge-watching it again, I mind it far less than I did on its original run. There are some actually interesting stories on it.Continuity
- Also, DS9 gave us this brilliant little scene between Damar and Weyoun 8 (starting at 2:35): https://www.youtube.…Continuity
- Damar was a good character. Speaking of actors and many characters, Jeffery Combs played 3: Brunt, Weyoun and Shran.CyBrainX
- 5! Weyoun, Brunt, Penk, Krem, Shransted
- detritus2
Oh c'mon, they don't even have CCTV to investigate murders on board starships?
- Lazy writing. Like, why would you need monitoring devices in a sickbay, right? What, in case you needed to remotely monitor patients, or something logical?ETM
- I know, it's stupid — it's ST, they can just make up bullshit to cover over a sudden lack of video coverage. 'Spore Emanation Flux' or some shitdetritus
- no surveillance on that deck.sted
- detritus0
The back to front nature of Earth in the logo is pure comicbilge...
...Brilliant, my phone autocorrected that from 'comicbook'...
...but ST was always a wee bit more cerebral than pure comic. If the earth was back to front as per the logo, all history would be different.
- detritus0
One thing that's always bugged me about crew members dying onboard — surely one of the very first techs that would be installed on a fully computerised ship would be vital sign monitors for crew, so that the instant someone in board comes to harm, it's reported?
- Ha yes or just send fucking drones out to explore and make the tv show 100% terriblefadein11
- I know, I know, artistic license, but I find it weird to think it's never accounted for unless they're on an away mission. It's the future, for crisakesdetritus
- Just internal sensors would know this. Not even need anything biomedical on the physical person. We have some of the tech today, including thermal sensors etc.ETM
- Given we already have Alexa etc., I would think the starship computer would passively listen/monitor everything in an "always on" state.ETM
- CyBrainX-2
I was loving the season until this plot twist. I always hated the mirror universe. It's a dumb premise. Another universe, only everything is evil? Come on. Lost in Space had an episode like that and I think it came before the original Star Trek episode. They keep going back to it too. The Next Generation was the only series not to do it.
- If there are potentially infinite alternate universe's, how do they manage to always go to the same one?ETM
- Voyager steered clear of the Mirror Universe, too, thankfully.Continuity
- Always loved the mirror universe episodes - now we're getting a whole season of it!SlashPeckham
- You're right. Voyager didn't have one either. This wasn't the same thing but I loved this episode way more. https://www.youtube.…CyBrainX
- Voyager did do this in way. http://memory-alpha.…)tank02
- And TNG had the awesome episode with the Entreprise C.tank02
- I wouldn't call 'Living Witness' a MU episode, at all. Just a bit of funky time travelling. It's one of Voyager's best, though.Continuity
- i_monk0
Damn, those Mirror verse uniforms are nice.
- sofakingback0
I also read that they might have Quentin Tarantino do the next Star Wars, R-Rated. And Patrick Stewart is down to come back as Jean-Luc
- Jean Luc Skywalker?dopepope
- lol sorry Star Treksofakingback
- these rumors are so strange it's hard to believe them.CyBrainX
- agreed, but it's fun to imagine what that movie would be like. :Dsofakingback
- sofakingback0
I've been watching every episode of Star Trek from the original series to all the movies. Right now I'm rewatching Next Generation.
Pure awesomeness.
Curious about discovery, where does it rank for those that have watch all the series?
- Still early to tell, but for me, near the bottom, so far. But the show has been very polarizing.ETM
- I'm not at all a fan of Discovery. I hate it.Continuity
- ah damn, I was hoping for something good.sofakingback
- Let me put it to you this way: I'd rather watch 'Enterprise'.Continuity
- My order:
Next Generation, original, Discovery, Enterprise, Voyager, DS9CyBrainX - ^ That is a unique order.ETM
- For me it's TNG, TOS, VOY, DS9, ENT, DISContinuity
- CyBrainX0
So many Trekkies would love to have Fatass Shatner in girdles stinking up the screen again. So much of the fan base is old people waving their canes at anything different from half a century ago.
- Continuity0
Yeah, so the next Star Trek film will be directed by Tarantino, and will be R-rated:
http://www.independent.co.uk/art…
... and Patrick Stewart says he might want in on the action:
http://www.denofgeek.com/us/movi…
Seriously fuck this Trek shit, now.
- that's not star trek... that's bullshit on film. Hollywood... you don't need to get edgy / gory-glam to sell trek... stop fucking w/my childhood alreadyPonyBoy
- (and my parent's youth for that matter... my dad's annoyed to hell w/the new show)PonyBoy
- If Paramount _really_ wanted to do right by Trek fans, they'd go back to the prime timeline, stop making fucking prequels,Continuity
- ...and give the franchise to Christopher Nolan.Continuity
- detritus1
I think I've gone off this show.
- because of the klingonporn? :Dsted
- I think it's the identikit minority viewer checklisting. Perhaps the non-episodic nature. Perhaps the ludicrosity. Dunno. Perhaps I'm having a shit week.detritus
- All I know is that I excitedly came back from holiday to two episodes, and it then took me over a week to watch both, and I can't really remember much from themdetritus
- 'Orrible show, isn't it?Continuity
- :)sted
- i_monk0
So, did they jump to
a) a parallel universe
b) the future
c) the Mirror Universe specifically?
- Mirror Universe.
Jonathan Frakes spilled that they're going to the MU this season, and he directed the next episode.Continuity - Well, that's my very educated guess, anyway. The problem is I really don't know if I care where they went, actually.Continuity
- And if I'm right, and they spend the rest of the season there, they'll be re-hashing/ripping off Voyager. Again.Continuity
- I think they're ripping off Mirror Mirror if anything. They even showed Sarek with a Spock goatee in coming attractions.CyBrainX
- Mirror Universe.
- Continuity0
This is interesting. This is now the second time I'm seeing speculation in the media that Voq "I Wish I Was a Real Klingon" the Klingon eventually becomes The Albino, as seen on DS9:
- He would, of course, have to discover how to grow hair first, and then grow a pair of balls.Continuity
- CyBrainX0
So, the ship's engineer was sexually harassed when he was 14 by Kevin Spacey.
Even our TV presidents are rapey.
- Art imitating life, and all of that.Continuity
- and the engineer character is gay.CyBrainX
- dopepope1
^ it feels like that one episode of Next Generation, when a long dead Tasha somehow appears back on the Enterprise, but it's now a war vessel and every room is dark, only lit with monitor screen light, and HUDs, and it's some wacky alternate timeline, and everything is just 'off' a bit. Great episode. But this is like an entire season of just that. I agree, it doesn't feel very Trek like, but I'm still watching to see where it goes.
- That was one of the best episodes of any star trek. A coworker was friends with the captain of the Enterprise C. I got to talk to her on the phone.CyBrainX
- She was very nice and had no idea how popular he episode was.CyBrainX
- Oh, and that wasn't Tasha. It was her daughter.CyBrainX
- It was Tasha in 'Yesterday's Enterprise'. Her daughter the half-Romulan came later, as a result of Tasha going back in time with Enterprise-C.Continuity
- Damn. I'm fake Trek. You're right.CyBrainX
- What are the chances we see Zachary Quinto as Spock at some point?CyBrainX
- I'd say close to nil, for the fact that the producers were adamant STD isn't nu-Trek. Quinto's Spock would be challenging this too much.Continuity
- Also, I wonder if there wouldn't be legal issues with it. Apparently, CBS doesn't have any rights to JJ-Trek at all, that's all with Paramount.Continuity