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- pablo280
anti-globalists 1 - pro-globalists 0
- racial tensions and division: 1
calm and stability: 0fadein11 - Right. There's so much calm and stability in Belgium or France.pablo28
- Oh sorry - thought we were talking about Brexit as this is the Brexit thread. Loads of reports of hate crimes / racial tensions post result.fadein11
- in the UK I should say.fadein11
- Whats wrong with being a globe-ist, we live on a globe don't we?yuekit
- racial tensions and division: 1
- chrisRG0
- the whole abum
https://www.facebook…chrisRG - we voted leave...so leave...oey
- I mean leave the uk and swim to america...LOL!oey
- I call bs on this one. theres been articles by lefties pushing this stuff in various papers.yurimon
- It's real - there is plenty of video evidence. But you are far right so I am sure you love it all.fadein11
- LOL @ fadein11...oey
- care to post some fadein??GeorgesII
- https://www.facebook…fadein11
- http://www.birmingha…fadein11
- plenty more all over social media. Don't have the time or inclination to educate you or Yurimon Georges - after all that's your roles on here isn't it.fadein11
- educate, you guys sure love that word eheheh it's like the yolo of 2016,GeorgesII
- Georges and Yuritroll... making QBN 'right' again.fadein11
- oh ha - hadn't even seen that chrisRG had posted the link already - there you - click on the link.fadein11
- your logic is so weak man, so according to you these events, represents only the leave side, ahhhhh why do I even try...GeorgesII
- https://www.theguard…chrisRG
- Not surprised to see yuri and his sidekick Georges together again in solidarity on thismonospaced
- These events only represent the leave side? Yes of course they do mainly - the far right morons in the UK now feel they are allowed to tell migrants to 'go homefadein11
- ' despite a lot of these migrants being British citizens... oh FFS Georges we will never agree. Yep mono - Georges and Yuri - QBN's far right sympathisers.fadein11
- I don't want to say that exactly, but they do the same thing in the USA politics discussionsmonospaced
- the whole abum
- GeorgesII0
I love how they cornered the debate,
everyone that voted to stay is a well educated, hip, interresting, non bigoted, european (world) loving individual,anyone that voted to leave,
fuckn uneducated low intelligence, racist, bigot scum,
like there's only one reason why people would want to leave europe,
this is the message that is getting tired, everytime the left loses and believe me, you will be losing more and more in the future, it never discusses why it's losing, only puts ad hominem on those who disagree with their status quo,
it's 2k16 ffs, calling everyone who doesn't align themselves with your warped sense of cry bullism, racist bigot misogyn isn't working anymore,
- not at all I have a number of friends who voted out who made an educated informed decison. Alas a lot of voters did make the decision based on ignorance andfadein11
- what our mainly shit press told them to do. AMazing now may didn;t know the difference between an EU citizen and a refugee/asylum seeker.fadein11
- who's 'they' by the way? who cornered what debate?fadein11
- they is you fadein, you are the "they" I'm talking about, haven't you notice how you attack anyone that is contrary to your feels, everyone is far right, lolGeorgesII
- and your idea of turning the vote into left and right shows your ignorance in the whole thing - our labour (left) leader wanted out... it's not black and whitefadein11
- does it even exist right now, political parties are so confused that the fartest right would be considered center right a few years agoGeorgesII
- as usual you're right, Georges up to a certain point, and then you fall into your own trap.Fax_Benson
- Georges - way more complex but your simplistic soundbyte opinions are apparent again.fadein11
- without taking side... (even if I consider brexit is a sad news)... I just notice that 90% of the "in" are not even able to name the President of the EU...gonzalle
- ^
here we go again,
you can keep on ignoring why most people want to exit europe (not only uk) and spend another hour and two deciding how I'm wrongGeorgesII - wow - who polled 15million voters so quickly? Would love to see the source of that figure.fadein11
- And a lot of leave voters didn't know what the EU was Google stats show lol.fadein11
- can we for once refrain from attacking people and trying to understand why people are truly sick of europe?GeorgesII
- You're not wrong. At least not as wrong as you like to be seen to be.Fax_Benson
- yo, if you lose an election and the majority of people decide to leave, I do not believe I need a poll to understand that "most" people want to leave,GeorgesII
- I also noticed that while our brilliants leaders are blaming the english people. They don't have time to think about there own responsability...gonzalle
- ^
never, gonzalle, it's always someone else fault, fax: is it a popularity contest? I thought the point of open forum discussion, was to discuss thingsGeorgesII - 52% to 48% was hardly a landslide... and to think how many voted on false promises made which have now been withdrawn such as NHS spending etc...fadein11
- Like I say - it's way more complex than your simplistic left/right theory.fadein11
- this is how democracy works, like it or hate it, if it's 50.1% of voters, you still lost the vote and the majority has spoken, but it's probably too complex 4 uGeorgesII
- Too complex for me? what exactly - I know we lost the vote. But it wasn't based purely on left or right - I have friends on both sides who didn't vote based onfadein11
- that. Do some research so you can educate me further oh wise one. QBN scholar of the people.fadein11
- I'm w/Goergespablo28
- Georges isn't singling anyone out here. This has been the general narrative pushed in the media over the last few days.IRNlun6
- ^ wow - you form your opinion based on mainstream media - wake up sheeple ;)fadein11
- What do you make of the fact that young people voted overwhelmingly to stay in the EU, while 60+ provided most of the margin for leave?yuekit
- Fax_Benson1
Georges, have a look at how many generalisations you make in your post about being sick of people making generalisations. I broadly agree with much of what you say on this and other subjects - but why preface everything you say with the same "I'm so tired of pointing this out to you idiots" attitude.
It gets you off on the wrong foot every time. It's like you enjoy your lone wolf truth-teller status more than actually having a conversation.
- point out what's wrong with my post,
what generalisations, unlike most of you guys I do not need to demean others by calling them names, I find it hillariousGeorgesII - that in the past year, I've been called all kind of names, and you know for what reason, because you GUYS don't accept anything that is contrary to your povGeorgesII
- so can we stop with "stop calling us idiots" when I said nothing of the sort, I'm just pointing out the weirdness that is: if you are so good at getting theGeorgesII
- societal pulse, how come all the predictions /polls/experts, have been wrong on everything in the past year,GeorgesII
- It's your tone, G. Same trap others here slip into too. It's hard to convey subtlety online in B&W, which you should perhaps try and compensate for.detritus
- I agree with you. The left has failed to address the reasons why it is losing and will continue to lose until it does. First up in a UK general electionFax_Benson
- in a few months time.Fax_Benson
- Last week I tried being drier than dry and got called out by two here as 'angry'. Can't win, sadly. :D ROFLLOL ¯\_(ツ)_/¯detritus
- yeah, I blame keyboards. I think they're deliberately fucking with us.Fax_Benson
- although I have similar troubles irlFax_Benson
- Generalizations are probably the best we can do in these types of forums since they're not comments directed at anyone in specific.IRNlun6
- who's called you a name Georges?fadein11
- The center-left in both US and UK definitely needs to rethink its ideas.yuekit
- However the idea that you will do better by throwing out all the experts and replace them with people like Trump or Farage is a bit delusional.yuekit
- One thing people don't like to hear is the idea that the West is in decline vs. the rest of the world and this is probably inevitable to some extent.yuekit
- point out what's wrong with my post,
- formed1
Goldman Sachs forecasts UK recession in 2017, downgrades global growth forecasts
http://www.cnbc.com/2016/06/26/g…
Not unlike what would happen here (though much worse) if Trump was elected. Voters better wake up and realize how large the downside can really be. If they don't, they'll have to answer to their vote (we'll be hearing about Brexit voters being called out, too, and those that didn't vote).
- Yes, quite a problem. Globalists are powerful banking elites who can bring pain to markets and control our politics.IRNlun6
- Here's former Goldman Chairman, Director-chairmen of the WTO, and United Nations Special Representative for International Migration, Peter Sutherland...IRNlun6
- EU should 'undermine national homogeneity'
http://www.bbc.com/n…IRNlun6 - and a recent tweet... "The younger generation in UK has been sacrificed all because of distortion of facts & consequences. Somehow this result must be overturn"IRNlun6
- ApeRobot5
- hahahhaprophetone
- jesse rae?kingsteven
- WITNESSsarahfailin
- hahayurimon
- drgs-3
Fuck em
- nb1
Goldman Sachs forecasts UK recession in 2017, downgrades global growth forecasts
"Yes, quite a problem. Globalists are powerful banking elites who can bring pain to markets and control our politics."
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Hey IRNIun6, I don't mean to single you out, but I wanted to just draw attention to this general sentiment. In a way, you're correct, banks have a ton of influence and they use that to control politics. And a Goldman Sachs forecast is one way of influencing the market in a big way.
However, in this case, the Brexit result is not some banking elite power play.
The vast majority of respected economists in the world predicted that a Leave vote would cause the pound and the UK markets to drop. It's extremely rare to have such a consensus among economists, and there it was.
So, you've got all the economists (not only the banks) saying a Leave result will cause a huge drop in the stock market. What do you expect what would happen? Financial markets are "controlled" by perception. If everyone in the market thinks there will be recession, that itself will cause a recession. The market has always worked this way.
- Reaction and narrative of the consequences of the Brexit can be seen as a power play.IRNlun6
- It's only natural for markets to react negatively to uncertainty in major political/trade organizations.IRNlun6
- ANYTHING can be seen as a "power play", that's how the world and markets work, that's not unique or new. The point is WHAT happens and what is does to EVERYONEformed
- The power play is in casting doubt on whether a countries leadership is capable of managing trade relations for their own nations.IRNlun6
- And casting doubt on the reasons behind voting the way they did in the first place.IRNlun6
- Uh, yeah, but my point is that essentially ALL the economists, (including ones who work for universities, not banks, for example) agreed on what would happen.nb
- It's not so much a 'power play' when everyone agrees and the bank isn't using it's power to control the outcome.nb
- It doesn't take an economist to know that the market would drop. What they do not have consensus on is long term since that is dependent of trade renegotiationIRNlun6
- The last thing these global banking organizations want is for nations to be successful in determining their economic futures without them.IRNlun6
- lowimpakt0
"Barclays and RBS shares suspended from trading after tanking more than 8%"
"£9 billion: amount we paid to EU every year (net)
£8 billion: amount we have lost *just* on RBS crash (taxpayers own 73% of it)""Brexiters Johnson Gove & Farage now responsible for lowering the values of UK's holdings of RBS & Lloyds by around 50% - everyone poorer"
- RBS 73% owned by UK taxpayerlowimpakt
- I hope there is a special layer of hell just for Gove and Johnson.face_melter
- One days markets averages is not indicative of the general health of the economy.IRNlun6
- true but the experts Gove hates so much said this would happpenlowimpakt
- No, but the forecasts, as nb points out, is a pretty clear consensus. BAD. Not unlike the consensus of a Trump presidency.formed
- Markets can be manipulated. there is no transparency. speculation could be wrong.yurimon
- Continuity0
- Fuck it. I apparently can't Internet today.Continuity
- Don't believe the media - most of it here is in denial and over-reporting the Bregret angle. Plenty of people here are more than OK with what's happened.detritus
- chrisRG1
he said this today at 9:30..
a few hours later markets have crashed and pound has hit 31 years low since then
here is the video:
https://twitter.com/Channel4News…
- lowimpakt3
"An Englishman, a Scotsman and an Irishman went to a bar.
They all had to leave because the Englishman wanted to go."
- detritus0
- Scary. Labour is fucked if it doesn't get its act together sharpish.Fax_Benson
- It's going to be like Scotland only with worse nationalistsFax_Benson
- *more fuckedFax_Benson
- autoflavour2
- if that's an accurate analogy - how bad must the EU to celebrate chopping one's own arm off?detritus
- Who shakes with their left hand, that's just oddRanger
- we chose to keep the rightFax_Benson
- hey detritus...it's the UK who's celebrating. just saying. I mean in the cartoon. in case you don't know flags you know.oey
- wat? so i missed a 'be' by accident - still makes sense.detritus
- lol @ detritusoey
- autoflavour5
- Chexit?Ranger
- https://www.youtube.…imbecile
- Chegsit - when we banished Keith Chegwin to live on St Helenadetritus
- hahaFax_Benson
- mention of Chegwin always reminds me of this, unfortunately. WARNING - contains full-frontal Cheggers nudity
https://www.youtube.…Fax_Benson
- chukkaphob8
Up next, other EU nations to exit:
Departugal
Finish
Grexit
Italeave
Fruckoff
Czechout
Oustria (or Austrialavista?)
Slovakout
Latervia
Byegium
- Ramanisky25
lol ... fucking John Oliver
- the ice cream cone thing made me lol choke on my coffee this morningprophetone
- cheeky, but a distraction for people who think they are smart.yurimon
- fucking last-word-yUrine againRamanisky2
- this stuff used to be funny, but now its just wanking off to the 1%. something i dont like to wank off to. sorry.yurimon
- the icecream part was funny btw.yurimon
- STFU dummyRamanisky2
- I dont get why are you upset, you didnt write the skit.yurimon
- you have to be a moron if you think this show is targeted at the 1% you fucking trollmonospaced
- this show is the 1%, targeting people like you.yurimon
- well, you know you've been wrong about me with your wild (dumb)ass-umptionsmonospaced
- yurimon-18
Sup, I heard you EU fans love big corps, The 1% and lobbying groups. cause you know that what the EU just lobbying mill dressed up as a Gov body. but_ thats_non_of_my_business.gif
- I struggled to read this... then regretted putting forth the effort.Al_dizzle
- ^ I think we'll all agree on thatformed
- ill rewrite it for you.yurimon
- Sup I heard you EU fans love big corporations, The 1% and lobbying groups. because the EU is just a corporate lobbying mill dressed up as a Gov bodyyurimon
- yuritrollfadein11
- How many strikes you had yuri by the way?fadein11
- tell me this is not true.yurimon
- gibberish - what's not true?fadein11
- I knew you were a 1% corporate rule type of guy.yurimon
- a troll and a moron stillmonospaced
- Do you get how the EU works mono? its Corp to regulation mill.yurimon
- ah, next think you'll act like a drooling retard and say something as fucking moronic as I am responsible for your downvotes... fucking troll idiotmonospaced
- please go tell how the eu workssted
- trollimoronmoldero
- lol, moldy, I never took for the defending the 1% typeyurimon
- its really not that hard to find out.yurimon
- I'm just amazed. one minute everyone is crying yelling bernie and the 1%. then 1month later the same people are defending the same corruption because EU.yurimon
- how many strikes you on Yurimon? must be close to your own exit soon no?fadein11
- another popular post ;)fadein11
- fadein. you dont like my opinion. im pointing something out to you but you cant see your hypocrisyyurimon
- last-word-yUrineRamanisky2
