FUCK ADOBE!

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  • monospaced0

    Adobe's business beyond subscriptions:
    - Enterprise: Digital transformation and experiences
    - Small & medium business: Solutions for teams of any size
    - Insights: Thought leadership for enterprise
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    - Partnerships
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    - IT resources: Information for IT leaders
    - Services & Support: Consulting, training, and customer care
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    • They also have publications, throw major events, run Behance, engage in countless Corporate Responsibility and Community efforts worldwide, and much more.monospaced
    • it's because they have to invest the ridiculous amounts of money they generate through subscriptions worldwide.uan
    • probably those branches aren't performing as promised, so they raise the subscriptions to match the numbers they need.uan
    • I guess if you're just guessing, assuming and making shit up, you can say just about anything you want, uan. I'm not doing that.monospaced
    • just trying to make sense of the fact they raise the subscription fees when the numbers of subscribers are growing, instead of lowering them.uan
    • I just can't get my head around it...the product is virtual, just bytes, it doesn't cost anything to produce another item to sell.uan
    • so to attract even more subscribers they should aim at cost 0 for the product...but they don't. does it mean the subscriptions aren't as high as they projected?uan
    • I'm just trying to make sense of why people are making such a big deal of a <1% price increase over a decade. It's negligible, and there is inflation.monospaced
    • not to mention, Adobe has expanded into so many more areas, with expanded staff and scope, which must be funded and accounted for ... it's right here <monospaced
    • "it doesn't cost anything to produce another item to sell." How do you interpret this?Ianbolton
    • exactly ... that's a total Bennnnsumption, that just because the product is software, that it just appears without any R&D.monospaced
  • NBQ004

    According to some of you guys here all Adobe software should be free. And come with a pacifier too for when you feel like whining :)

  • NBQ000

    WHY WHY WHY? After so many years and this still wasn't fixed:

    Copying layers from one After Effects composition into another messes up entire layer order and you have to manually re-arrange the layers into their correct order.

    WTF? WHY?

    Or am I missing something?

    • depends on the order you select the layers.uan
    • It's the way you select the layers. Select top down and it works. It can be frustrating https://www.youtube.…PhanLo
    • the more you know. once you know it's method, it makes sense and is a powerful way to quickly reorder things.shapesalad
    • For some reason it still doesn't do it properly, even if selected in correct order. Also expressions get messed up.NBQ00
    • Often I just duplicate the comp instead of the copy/paste hassle.PhanLo
    • Can't duplicate the comp if I need to change stuff for a 2nd version but don't want it to affect the original comp.NBQ00
    • restart machine? could be a bug, hence I wait ages to update my AEshapesalad
  • Hayoth-2

    How much does it cost to bring on an in-house team to do room and product renders from cad files.

    • Equipment costs?
    • Can one guy do it depending on work load?
    • How much do those guys get paid?

    • How hard is it to post in a relevant thread?monospaced
    • Didn't feel like starting a new threadHayoth
    • I recently had a conversation with someone about this very thing. I was looking for someone to do some architectural renders...Gnash
    • ... and reached out to a friend that works at an large architectural firm. She said they got rid of their in-house rendering team because it was $$ viableGnash
    • was not*Gnash
    • was cheaper to hire out to specialized firmsGnash
    • random google: https://www.the3darc…Gnash
    • thinking to get into this work - is it well paid?shapesalad
    • Adobe software isn't really what you'd think of when using CAD files to 3D model and render product and rooms, though.monospaced
    • use these guys http://unbuilt.co.uk…shapesalad
    • I get it mono, the target market for this thread was relevant though.Hayoth
    • I get it mono, the target market for this thread was relevant though.Hayoth
    • got an estimate to do 60 products in 20 rooms for $70,000 can we hire someone to do that? 1 product, 2 versions $1200Hayoth
    • ^ ask your accountant - a $70K COG vs $$ associated with a hire and capitol costs.Gnash
    • try Adobe CAD Expert Pro, its included in the CC subscriptionz!!!1! ;-P Only 80$/month for all those Toolz! :O wow!Bennn
    • jkBennn
    • See you later new doug.Hayoth
    • through in another $5k for autodesk and 3dmax/revit. plus the workstation ... it adds up quickGnash
    • *throwGnash
  • NBQ000

    Why can't I have multiple independent After Effects projects open like either in multiple separate AE app windows or some sort of tabs?

    Seriously, it's so annoying not being able to have open more than one project at a time. Multi tasking is so limited that way.

    I wonder if this is a technical limitation or if Adobe never thought about this.

    • you can...I used to do that by opening 2 different versions of after effects. I think you need 2 instances of AE, could also work by duplicating the app.uan
    • I've duped apps to get Sketchup to render using all available cores, but with AE the system resources might be harder to manage with big projects.evilpeacock
    • Make a new AE file, import all your AE projects into that. Never create a new AE file, just keep working in one big almighty mega HD ruining 1gb+ AE file.shapesalad
    • shape, yeah that I don't want. Because for whatever reason the imported project doesn't update when you edit the original one. It's a mess.NBQ00
  • shapesalad2

    CorelDRAW™ 2019

    For the adobe sub haters, one off payment £599.99

    • hmmm, you had a go with it? It used to be absolute cack.MrT
    • how is this company still around? I haven't seen anyone use it since mid 90's wordperfect.hotroddy
    • It's still used extensively in the clothing and garment industry, particularly for things like embroidery, right?Centigrade
    • It's the software of choice for most companies doing laser-cutting, vinyl work, and a load of print advertising.Nairn
    • I’ve never seen any mention of this and I work with print vendors, laser cutters and vinyl installers every week.monospaced
    • *sigh* I'm sure, mono - as with myself and the companies I deal with, but believe me there's a whole iceberg-like mass of businesses who use Corel.Nairn
    • perhaps I should have written "many" rather than "most" elsewise I encounter your own opinionated correction.Nairn
    • I believe you, and I apologize if what I wrote was perceived as a correction, becuase it was anything but.monospaced
    • a better solution than illustrator for the graphic design industry. ever since illy gave up js support, it's really just the tide that keeps them in businessimbecile
  • _niko0

    anyone have this issue in adobe cc? launch app, asks you to sign in, you do, then 3 seconds later asks you to sign in again, so I can never actually sign in or use anything.

    • urgh. thankfully not but I can imagine the pain.Fax_Benson
    • Occasionally this weird 90s-looking Adobe dialogue asks for sign in, then says I'm on the 30 day trial. Massive swearing and a restart fixes it tho'MrT
  • haga0

    Not sure if this is Fuck Adobe, but it's something Adobe. What the hell have happend with my rgb here? Is it some new odd setting in AE 2019? Have my color preferences been fucked some way? Honest question. Can't find anything when I google it.

    • It has to be a bug, right?haga
    • looks like a bug. I don't have this issueProjectile
    • Are you on a computer or ipad?SimonFFM
    • Computerhaga
    • could be 16-bpc or 32-bpc pixels footage or project?
      have no ae to test or experience with it, but then rgb would have more than 255 values.
      uan
    • ^ uan is correct, 8-bpc will get you RGB 0 255. Annoyingly no way to rangemap those #'s when working in 16/32 to the 8 range of 0-255.shapesalad
    • Yea, I was thinking it had something to do with 16-bpc but even if I start a new clean project in 8 it still lets me go over 255.haga
  • Nairn0

    Computer crashed, so I reboot and now Illustrator won't open as CC can't validate my license, with a dialogue locked by some spinning bullshit "Please wait for a moment" loading cuntery.

    Great. Thanks, subscription model bullshit.

    • Try logging out (CC in menu bar), rebooting, and then log back in from Creative Cloud (menu bar icon). I found that helps sometimes.monospaced
    • Something else is going on, you only have to check in every 30 days to verify your license.zarkonite
  • bliznutty0

    i don't use photoshop often enough to subscribe to adobe so i just use this free version and it works great!

    https://www.freephototool.com/

  • mathinc1

    What bullshit. FUCK YOU ADOBE.

    • Shit colour, computer says no.pedromendez
    • check appearanceshapesalad
    • i've never gotten the hang of using the eyedropper that wayGnash
    • lol.. it's a cardboard box btw. Shit color, agreed.mathinc
    • double-hit that white!Gnash
    • +1 ss. Appearance - have you got a new fill above your character colour?MrT
    • double click the eyedropper tool and check your settingsdeathboy
    • Live text is handled differently. Select /Highlight the type with the type tool and add a fill.Centigrade
    • So far ^ is the only way to do it. Which sucks. If you have two separate text objects you have to select into one, change themathinc
    • color. Then select into the second and set that color. You used to be able to just select all text objects, eyedrop and change it.mathinc
  • _niko4

    Spacebar hand tool stopped working in illustrator. Went on adobe support forum to see what was up.
    Adobe’s suggested fix:

    Restart chrome.

    It worked. fml

    • wutprophetone
    • https://i.kym-cdn.co…Gnash
    • Since Chrome went black it's been having weird shits on me (Mojave + a Wacom). I bet CC19 is a dream if it's the only thing running on a new machine...MrT
    • RIP wat lady.ideaist
    • Yup. This has been known to happen since they added Flash-based palettes in an older CS version. Supposedly palettes are now HTML based, but who knows?evilpeacock
    • Once had to quit safari to fix it.monospaced
    • Chrome causes some bugs with PS too. If PS is open in the background, on occasion Chrome won't show the hand tool for links on websites. It's a weird one!Centigrade
    • weirdGnash
    • yeah, it's like the Finder, Adobe and Browsers are all fighting for control over the UI simultaneously which causes thismonospaced
    • Re: Mr. T - Yeh, Mojave and Wacom is all kinds of crap. From accidental double clicks, not being able to release selection in AE -- all stems from Chrome.fyoucher1
  • Gnash7

    PSA

    When it's time to renew your subscription just log into your account online, click "manage account", click "Cancel your subscription" and then "too expensive" from the list reasons. An option will come up to chat with a rep about some 'special offers" -- right away I was offered $29/month with 3 months free for the full suite

  • NBQ000

    Does anyone know how this works exactly?

    I'm rendering a fairly complex AE scene and I see that my CPU (just the base MBP 2.2 i7 6-core) is only utilized about 11%.

    The fans are spinning though and the laptop is having some lags when I try to do other stuff.

    So it seems CPU really being utilized heavily, so why does the activity monitor show only about 11% usage?

    • GPU maybemonospaced
    • 11% of the little soldiers are working their ass out while 89% of them are on vacation.Bennn
    • AE isn't multiprocessing anymore (used to back in CS4), only utilizes one core. There are tools that'll utilize other cores though.fyoucher1
    • Looks into RenderGarden (like $99) or BG Renderer script on AE Scripts.fyoucher1
    • Do you have enough RAM? It might not be able to load enough data to feed the CPUs. There is multi-thread support but it's complicated and depends on the effectszarkonite
  • mathinc1

    • *Bennn entered the room*Bennn
    • that n/a happens when the target artboard is different from the source.
      but i never got into this loop ahaha :D
      sted
    • did ya get a guide in the group maybe?Gnash
    • *Bennn leaved the room*Bennn
    • Yup....this all of sudden started happening to me this week as well.utopian
    • gnash called itimbecile
    • I drag-select-copied all the objects I wanted to drop into a Live Surface Context file.. opened the LS file to drop it in and got stuck in this loop. No guides.mathinc
  • Bennn1

    LOLLLL What the fuck. They're crazy.

    "Adobe tests doubling the price of its Lightroom and Photoshop plan"

    https://www.theverge.com/2019/5/…

    • I'm literally paying for 2 x Illustrator only plan and can't cancel one of them! They also say they do paypal but can't see anywhere that pricing optiongrafician
  • Bennn1

    LOOOOLLL

    "An Adobe spokesperson told The Verge, “From time to time, we run tests on Adobe.com which cover a range of items, including plan options that may or may not be presented to all visitors to Adobe.com. We are currently running a number of tests on Adobe.com. The plan can be purchased at http://www.adobe.com/go/photo18s…, via phone at 1-800-585-0774 or via major retailers."

    They test a double the cost plan... Some people see it, some not... WOW! If you're unlucky you stumble on the highest price, WTF is that???

    • They make sure YOU see the deals since you aren’t a customer.monospaced
    • adobe need some proper competitonhans_glib
  • Nairn0

    Seeing as Hayzilla seems to have got caught up in it already, you might want to update your apps, lest you want to get a sueball from Ze Adobez

    https://dazwallace.wordpress.com…

    • This might actually be due to some 3rd party (Oracle's been mooted due to Java), but what a way to treat your cusatomers, eh Adobe?Nairn
    • lols, adobe are fucking shystershans_glib
    • oh. I'm using cc 2017 still and no email yetGnash
    • fuck this, I"m busting out my old CS6 discs and installing just because!monospaced
    • Ah, here come the corporate apologists...Nairn
    • weird that adobe wouldn't have trademark extensions for each version.Gnash
    • I've bought stock photos from agencies that end up losing the rights to that pic (through sale or acquisition) but my original license is still validGnash
    • I've just received my email from Adobe - it's much friendlier than I'd imagined, from what I'd read on tehinnernets..Nairn
    • I hate upgrade time, especially when it's busy. I'm always convinced something will break, I'll miss deadlines, lose job, kids will hate me, pets will die..Gnash
    • so I'm still using cc 2017Gnash
    • Got my email as well. Oddly, it’s just bridge, photoshop, and Lightroom, that I need to upgrade. I guess the other apps are not affectedGnash
  • yuekit0

    Remember all the hype about how a "real" version of Photoshop was coming to the iPad in early 2019? What happened to that?

    • Adobe just said 2019, and there are several months left. :)monospaced
    • Hmmm maybe you're right. OK cancel the outrage then :)yuekit
    • Could have sworn they mentioned Q1 or early 2019 during the keynote.yuekit
    • You're thinking of Apple's keynote, but that's really not Adobe's promise.monospaced
    • Yeah it's coming whenever in 2019: https://www.adobe.co…zarkonite
  • ben_0

    Thanks, this thread reminded me to cancel my adobe stock trial.