Chicks in Design?
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- scarabin0
i went to a fashion design school that also had a graphic design program. i went for the girls. they all passed because they'll pass anyone with enough money, except for a handful who ended up crying in class and dropped out. i don't know what my point is but i've been drinking and wanted to type
- dMullins0
This sounds really sexist, but I'm speaking from personal experience...
When I was in design school, my program was also dominated by women. Most of these women were interested in "graphic arts," but had no previous passion for design, or any hands-on experience. They literally went to school to learn design programs. All of the guys in my program went on to enjoy pretty successful careers. I suspect that it's the difference between coming into the field with passion, and coming into the field solely for a career.
Think about how many of your friends/peers got into design because of some related field that led to their passion. Building websites for their Quake 1/2 clans. Building websites for their band. To me, the difference is doing it because it's what makes sense to you vs. learning to do it in school.
I only know TWO females that I've ever come across that knew they wanted to be designers before going to school for it.
- HS guidance counsellors are really bad or women just don't know what they want?newuser
- Or schools are really good at marketing to women?newuser
- dMullins you need to get out more.ohhhhhsnap
- dMullins sorry... misread. carry on.ohhhhhsnap
- Redmond0
As someone who's been here since Newstoday, I think the board's simply become more "boyish" over the years. Not that there's anything wrong with that, it's simply like that.
- monospaced0
Historically, the arts have been male dominated. The ancients (Socrates, for example), poets and playwrights (Shakespeare?), illuminated manuscripts, choirs, painters and sculptors (Michaelangelo) all the way until recent history. At the height of mid-century advertising, women were fighting professionally (Mad Men). Not to say there haven't been unbelievably talented women representing arts through history, but they are far fewer, and for differing reasons than we are experiencing today. Are women less inclined toward the arts? I don't think so, but some do. Have cultures kept women from expressing themselves? Certainly.
Our "modern" world has broken down many of the barriers keeping women from many roles previously dominated by men, and that includes design. I find that there are tons of female designers, and it's a field that is open to all.
- historically, women have been oppressed.albums
- I mentioned that at the end of the first paragraph.monospaced
- there's a significant difference between oppression and kept from expressing themselves.albums
- women are still oppressed and you're guilty of it.albums
- case in point.
http://www.qbn.com/t…
nice comments, cockheadalbums - That was a freakin' joke! Also, we're making the same damn point, I'm sorry. Replace "kept...from" with "oppressed."monospaced
- Meaning, "kept from expressing themselves" is part of that oppression. I thought you of all people would have understood that.monospaced
- 2% blacks. just saying.ohhhhhsnap
- monNom0
why does a gender imbalance have to be misogynism? maybe (graphic) design is just more appealing to males, on average, and other types of design may draw more female interest, on average.
Engineering is super male dominated. Not because women aren't smart enough or are locked out of it, but probably because smart women tend toward medicine or law or where ever their bliss is.
Like it or not, most girls grow up playing house, and most boys grow up playing war. It's instinctual and into plays into where our adult skills and interests lay.
- ..it plays into...monNom
- Read the first post. There are more girls in design school in general.fredddddd
- case in point: art-school. Maybe the female grads tend go on to be artists/ photographers/ illustrators/ etc.monNom
- it's learned. not instinctual.ohhhhhsnap
- noneck0
This is the most embarrassing thread on QBN.
- cannonball19780
Also: this whole "women get paid less than men" thing...
This implies that there is an active agenda to suppress women. The truth is that men get paid less than men as well, and it's really about a combination of A) Do you deserve it , and B) Did you ask for more.
I see a lot of B) not happening because women need to grow a pair.
- Ambushstudio0
MMC
MIENTRAS ME CASO
Wich means (UNTIL I GET MARRIED)
Thats how we call it around here...
- hellojeehae0
weird. all the places i've worked at had more female designers
- I've always had a pretty good ratio / mix. Can't say this is much of a problem in Southeast Michigand_rek
- Most of my design team is female, including my boss.monospaced
- d_rek0
Misogyny and the Marketing Chick
https://medium.com/about-work/aa…- this applies to "marketing guys" equally. Nothing to do with gender.monNom
- Actually, this is a real phenomenon that us guys labeled so women would identify and move away from it. Because we respect integrity.cannonball1978
- Because we respect integritycannonball1978
- sureshot0
Why are most prostitutes female?
- a gigolo is to expensive?sureshot
- Because men will pay for sex.monospaced
- GeorgesIV0
my friend in childcare would like to see more men
- Christa0
I know a lot of women in design, more than dudes
- cannonball19780
Reality: nobody is going to just "let" chicks have leadership roles proportionate to whatever arbitrary ratio people dream up as fair.
They have to work for the positions just like anybody out there. There is no such thing as "fair" and complaining about adversity is just that. Complaining.
- reality = there is no such thing a level playing field.lowimpakt
- Only pushy men get promoted - that's not fair, why not promote less pushy men, so it's 50/50 ?mikotondria3
- utopian0
Design chicks in their free time usually enjoy the following in no specific order: crochet, sewing, scrapbooking, shopping, Facebook, playing with their hair, chatting, instagram, laundry, dishes, cooking and getting their nails done. They have no time for design conversation and design boards.
- Pinterest is the exception.monospaced
- I do all of this except for getting my nails done.jacklalane
- Chatting?fredddddd
- Whinging, did you remember whinging.Wolfboy
- Raybandana0
Its a mans world. We made the game. Ever heard of world war 2?
- Yeah, it's that book you see in every airport terminal Hudson book kiosk. What about it?monospaced
- cold reality.Raybandana
- Pure fictionmonospaced
- What does a pulp fiction zombie novel have to do with reality?monospaced