The bible's contradictions visualized.
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- Hench0
I posted this in pic of the day and someone posted a link from some christian website debunking it as completely un researched. LOL.
- jon_d0
so... it's all hair.
- jon_d0
red hair.
- ukit0
- NonEntity0
It wd be great if the cheerleaders and fanboys on either side of the 'debate' just let it go, this kind of stuff is redundant and tiresome.
So the Bible is full of contradictions, so what? It's also full of carnage, suffering, poetry and genuine yearning. You could find holes in any religion if you want to take everything that's ever been said about (or by) them literally. That's not the point (& I'm not religious btw)
If you read the Origin of Species it manages to contradict itself too — sometimes on the same page. Big deal, both it and the Bible, in their different ways, beautiful texts.
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- testiclesasinomasimp1e
- I had no idea that the Origin of the Species was the Literal Word of God. Huh.detritus
- I'm just glad someone thinks monkey sex is explained through beautiful texts.Peter
- haDrBombay
- lnu0
"can god stop iron chariots?"
- tOki0
This is not an argument, it's a crazy infographic!
If you go into the PDF the level of detail is intense...
- Today is just another day. That I'll never forget.asinomasimp1e
- Dillinger0
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- PIZZA0
I'm an atheist (but not one of those who actually gives a shit and tries to convert people) but I find things like pointless, I mean it's my understanding that the bible is written by several people from different perspectives so there are bound to be contradictions.
Even things like this are not gonna sway anyone, so what's the fucking point. If you want to focus on the problem of religion then spend time trying to detach it from your fucking government.
- ... but .... didnt god create Charles Darwin .....23kon
- It might sway some people. Not everyone is on the far side of the issue.ukit
- but the bible is supposed to be the perfect text. so the volume of these contradictions are interesting.Hombre_Lobo_2
- Interestingly tho, the US is the one with a national constitution separating church & state, UK isn't legally secular...hmmrosskemp
- I think this comparison says a lot about the US.CyBrainX
- touchéD4W33D
- ukit0
- why am i not suprisedtOki
- but you're allowed to "love thy neighbour" :)23kon
- you whore 23kon! :PHombre_Lobo_2
- BRNK0
@morning_star,
Agnosticism is not the logical mode because it would require an active curiosity in every single unsubstantiated, intangible claim. I'm not sure what you call that, but I call it a waste of energy. In my opinion the most logical approach is to believe in things to the degree of evidence there is for them, meaning having strong belief in ideas with a lot of evidence, moderate belief in ideas with some evidence, and no belief in things that have no evidence.Clearly, each person will have different criteria for judging what constitutes sound evidence and will employ a variety of different tools to arrive at their conclusions, but I think two things must be true in order for a position in this argument to be intellectually honest:
1. One must submit tangible, physical evidence of beliefs. I think this is required because all belief claims, especially ones about a god, are making real and substantive claims about the nature of the physical world. Positing intangible evidence in support of tangible claims is intellectually dishonest and an impediment to further logical discussion because as soon as one does that, one must allow for any other intangible as an argument (Hence the Flying Spaghetti Monster) and the discussion comes to a frustrating, unresolved stalemate.
2. One must have an open mind, active curiosity, and persistently question the world around. This may seem contradictory to my opening retort, but it is not. I mean this in as far as it applies to physical, evidentiary claims.
In my opinion curiosity is the key feature that separates the engaged theist and the engaged atheist. It seems that while the engaged non-believe is constantly clamoring for more information, more context, more explanation to frame the world, the engaged theist is resolved to mull over incantations from the bronze age and concede that the mysteries of the world are such because god is mysterious and inexplicable.
I hope I didn't offend anyone with this little treatise. Not that I care if I've offended anyone per-se, but I hope so because I'm interested in an intelligent debate (I know, the internet is not the place for such things).
- plash0
Ill leave this here.
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- popfodders0
"The fanatical atheists," he wrote in a letter, "are like slaves who are still feeling the weight of their chains which they have thrown off after hard struggle. They are creatures who--in their grudge against traditional religion as the 'opium of the masses'-- cannot hear the music of the spheres." - Einstein
- Salarrue0
The wrath of God is being revealed from heaven against all the godlessness and wickedness of people, who suppress the truth by their wickedness, since what may be known about God is plain to them, because God has made it plain to them. For since the creation of the world God’s invisible qualities—his eternal power and divine nature—have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that people are without excuse.
For although they knew God, they neither glorified him as God nor gave thanks to him, but their thinking became futile and their foolish hearts were darkened. Although they claimed to be wise, they became fools and exchanged the glory of the immortal God for images made to look like a mortal human being and birds and animals and reptiles.Therefore God gave them over in the sinful desires of their hearts to sexual impurity for the degrading of their bodies with one another. They exchanged the truth about God for a lie, and worshiped and served created things rather than the Creator—who is forever praised. Amen.
Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural sexual relations for unnatural ones. In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed shameful acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their error.
Furthermore, just as they did not think it worthwhile to retain the knowledge of God, so God gave them over to a depraved mind, so that they do what ought not to be done. They have become filled with every kind of wickedness, evil, greed and depravity. They are full of envy, murder, strife, deceit and malice. They are gossips, slanderers, God-haters, insolent, arrogant and boastful; they invent ways of doing evil; they disobey their parents; they have no understanding, no fidelity, no love, no mercy. Although they know God’s righteous decree that those who do such things deserve death, they not only continue to do these very things but also approve of those who practice them.
- BRNK0
Popfodders,
You can always be counted on to copy and paste some article or another rather than employ even the slightest mental effort to write something for yourself. Thank you for contributing to the discussion in a meaningful way, as always!!!!!- actually, I fucking bumped the thread assfacepopfodders
- to top off that you're HIGHLY misinformed about Einstein, laughable you liberals.popfodders
- You are so caught up in liberal vs conservative it is amazing. If someone is a christian, they are conservative. Automatically.DrBombay
- Poptards being Poptardsutopian