Global Warming
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- inteliboy4
in a sick way I want the earth to flood, oceans to shift and the modern world to end - just to see how long these fuckwit deniers can hold their corporate funded pokerface facade.
- Deniers!!!! we should throw them in a volcano!!georgesIII
- this is why I love post apocalyptic moviesmoldero
- They'll just get in a big Ark and say it's "God's Will." They will never be wrong!ETM
- smug georges strikes again!inteliboy
- mg333
About a month ago we were out seeing my wife's family, and I got in a big conversation with my father in law, as usual, about politics. He hates Obama, hates democrats, and truly believes Fox News shows "the other side of the story (as truth)."
We got to talking about global warming; he pretty much believes that man has nothing to do with it simply by telling me that there's more ice than ever before in Antarctica (thus it isn't melting, those global warming isn't really happening.)
Luckily Vice News on HBO did an entire episode after that about the impacts on Antarctica. It was great to learn how the deniers skew facts about sea ice vs land ice - exactly what my father-in-law is falling for. Sea ice is cyclical. There's more in winter months formed from water already in the ocean. There's less when it melts, but there's no change in water volume for sea ice. Land ice that's melting, on the other hand, directly impacts the volume because it's water that wasn't in the ocean at first, but gets added it.
That's pretty much 3rd grade science at work there in terms of understanding what happens when you add more ice/water to water that was already there. So it's really frustrating and almost offensive to see it be politicized the way it is, especially by people who don't benefit in any direct way from the policies or stances their elected leaders take to deny what's happening.
And I'll even say this: let's say man doesn't have anything to do with it. It's just the global environment. The outcome is the same: water levels rise, coastlines change, populations are displaced, resources are affected, and people have to scramble to solve a likely unsolvable problem.
What would it hurt to think about how we'd tackle that problem? What would it hurt to hypothesize how the geography of Florida would change if ocean level rise gets bad in 20-30 years? What would it hurt to develop an action plan to deal with those affects?
- Learn to swim.dasohr
- I am more concerned about pollution n deforestation.yurimon
- he's right to hate on bama, but fox?yurimon
- Exactly Yurimon! Pollution and deforestation: what would it hurt us to take better care of this planet? How can that be politicized?mg33
- Monies bradasohr
- where do we start?yurimon
- you (gov/industry) start buy ditching old polluting technologies and using renewable energy.lowimpakt
- they say electric cars dont make a difference, plus big corps instead of curbing pollution just move to countries with no environmental protection laws.yurimon
- e-car biggest hoax since snake oildasohr
- your father in law sound like my mommoldero
- maybe sometimes ur mom is right. you ingrate. lolyurimon
- organicgrid1
- devastatingdasohr
- I lived in Cali for 20 years, they always need water, the problem is politics with the Colorado river and AZmoldero
- what moldy said...pretty sure this is a pic of a manmade lake (it's for recreation first and foremost look at the houseboats ffs)PonyBoy
- Colorado needs water! Time to cut them off :-)formed
- Cut off LA!instrmntl
- http://en.wikipedia.…ETM
- yurimon-4
- benfal991
i would like a good remake of this, with a good story
- benfal990
First Great War of Water will occur around 2035
Drinkable water will be as precious as gold very soon
- just like by 2015 the sea would have risen 50 mt, but on a more serious note, if water is as valuable as gold, then golden showers will be a waste of money..georgesIII
- Just distill sea water. Not rocket science...set
- Not like 2/3 of the planet is covered in water ...dasohr
- GeorgesII0
I know this one country which consume 1/4 of the entire earth energy, but he's only like 5% of the entire planet population, maybe if they walk the talk or talk the walk, (wtv the idiom is) this planet would be paradise (I swear, I've seen the pic in the watchtower mag),
but instead they complain that two other countries which total almost 40% of the earth's population are to blame,
maybe if they renounced the whole quality of life they're used to and start getting their shit together Global warming/climate change/catch scary name could be averted in like 150 years,
but nope, they will find some boogeyman industrials and put all their anger onto them instead of looking in the mirror while typing like ants on their $2000 computer that is full of rare mineral extracted from the blood of poor congolese...
yeaaaaaah hypocrisy,
tip: not iceland
- utopian1
Republican funded Skeptic finds he now agrees global warming is real
A prominent physicist and skeptic of global warming spent two years trying to find out if mainstream climate scientists were wrong. In the end, he determined they were right: Temperatures really are rising rapidly.
One-quarter of the $600,000 to do the research came from the Charles Koch Foundation, whose founder is a major funder of skeptic groups and the conservative tea party movement. The Koch brothers, Charles and David, run a large privately held company involved in oil and other industries, producing sizable greenhouse gas emissions.
- designbot0
So for all of you folks who think the world is going to end if we don't do something about man made global warming....I am curious what you are all doing to help the situation? You have passion about this subject, obviously...but is that passion actually transitioning into making a difference? You get all uptight when I post Al Gores Carbon footprint information, but the fact is that he is the man who almost single handedly helped bring Global Warming into public awareness. So the fact that he himself does not practice what he preaches says A LOT.
I fear that many of you here on QBN are no different than Gore. You speak big words on an internet forum but in real life you don't do shit. Words are meaningless without action, and even as a contender of man made global warming I am responsible with the way I live and how I impact the environment. Are you? I am honestly curious. If I knew you in real life and you really stood behind the words you spoke with actions, it would impact me even if we disagreed. I would probably find myself inspired by your actions and willing to follow you based on them alone. It would make words seem pretty meaningless. Nobody is for ruining the earth. But for those of you who are so adamant about this issue, your energy would be better invested in making a difference.
- is this you backing up your point?lowimpakt
- yo dbot! when that article came out gore was in the process of installing a number of energy efficient...sigg
- I feel I am making several good points here...the main being to speak with your actions. Especially in regards to things you are passionate about.designbot
- products to the home. solar, appliances, windows... robots.sigg
- Especially in regards to things you are passionate aboutdesignbot
- hey sigg, I don't doubt it. Seems like a moot point though. The way he speaks he should be living in a grass hut.designbot
- I dont have a car, take the bus to work, walk most other places. compost, recycle an pay extra to get energy from green sources versus coal plants.DrBombay
- sources versus coal plants.DrBombay
- If I could afford it I would trick this joint out solar, but can't swing it right now.DrBombay
- the stories of the guys selling power back to the grid fascinate me.DrBombay
- you are making a lot of assumptions to make yourself feel better it seems.spifflink
- eieio0
meanwhile in Canada...
‘Unprecedented’ ozone hole opens over Canadian Arctic
http://news.nationalpost.com/201…
- 20120
Its cool, nothing to see here folks, move along
Algore made it all up
- He's fat, has a beard, a car and a zillion monitors. He's obviously a liar.TheBlueOne
- deathboy0
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glo…
Im on boat with change is going to happen, cooler or hotter. If it gets hot it will then likely cool, or vice versa. But i am on the fence about how drastic human involvement will be too global temperature change. Its a pretty big world with many events effecting everything, human and non human, then likely also some cosmic factors of flares, gamma radiation bursts, changing rotations, axis, electromagnetic fields.....and i find it hard to believe the hype that if we continue our path we will alter temperature enough to ruin us. I just don't see us as being that significant, and we can't continue using fossil fuels at current rates with growth curves since their just isnt enough. And since our population growth is still rising even if their was a temperature change through human faults and tons died, then i'd call that balancing things out. But still just seems like some modern day doomsday profiteering. Perhaps religion has lost its fizzle.
- You are not a scientist.DrBombay
- I love how you're so sure its also these other factors more so than the man-made CO2.Mimio
- gamma radiation bursts are interesting scientists have theories that a neutron star collision fried our ozone and caused a mass extinctiondeathboy
- possibly cause one of the recorded mass extinction. electromagnetic field protects us, and if that weakens radiation increasesdeathboy
- we get pummeled with more cosmic radiation shit.deathboy
- PonyBoy3
California to Ban the Sale of New Gasoline Cars
"California to Ban the Sale of New Gasoline Cars
The decision, to take effect by 2035, will very likely speed a wider transition to electric vehicles because many other states follow California’s standards."
- utopian2
The U.S. is now the only country not part of Paris climate agreement after Syria signs on.
- Khurram0
also raf, tell me more about this secret cabal of CFL light-bulb coorporations - considering the same people who made your beloved tungsten bulbs are the same people making the CFL bulbs.
And explain to me how this new group of CFL bulb makers have superceded in power the entrenched businesss of tungsten bulbs... god, this is getting surreal.
- I mentioned this earlier and got no response.DrBombay
- The life of the CFL is 10 times longer than their older product at the same price.DrBombay
- I don't think he's thought his conspiracy theories through. He jsut sorta, blurts them out.Khurram
- Yes they made tungsten too. They made huge investment to move on to CFL, leaving tungsten makers behind.raf
- GeorgesII-1
today 181214 - 13 °C
loving it
- bliznutty0
Look at these man-made lakes everyone.. aren't they pretty?
- pretty! i wonder what it looked like in 1800, or 1700? i imagine it filled the screen eh? so is that global warming...sigg
- from all the horse drawn carriages? or the earths natural cycle that happens over and over again...sigg
- over millions upon millions of years. only in the past 100 or so have we actually documented these changes.sigg
- ice age anyone? did man made global warming end that or was it the earths natural cycle? hmm.sigg
- i agree 100% that we need to recycle, reuse and reduce more but global warming... nope.sigg
- you are not a scientist.DrBombay
- neither are you, yet your opinion is somehow more valid then? fuck you asshole.sigg
- you are truly an asshole rick. go fuck yourself you non scientist prick.sigg
- sigg fails at life. such anger and insecurity.spifflink
- designbot0
Let's just concur there is indeed a very real debate within the scientific community. There's lots of misinformation happening on both sides. I remember digging into a pro man made global warming article and finding out the study was funded and organized by an environmental organization!
I say let both sides get the proper media attention and let the conclusion be arrived at based on the best minds in discussion and research about it. What I saw personally in the past, is lots of one-sided media hype on the issue. The BBC article I posted is at least evidence ( I think) that the opposing side (against the idea of man made global warming) is actually starting to gain more credibility and momentum.
- So an Env org cares about the environment and an oil company cares about what?DrBombay
- it hasn't been a real debate since like the 60s, its been fact and the corporations and governments just went to denial mode.eieio
- That's false...plain and simple. Otherwise how to you explain all the contrary information and opposing views from the scientific community?designbot
- Rick, the point he's making is that both have an obvious stake in the outcome. In fact, their survival depends on the outcome.mathinc
- If it is "fact" how do you explain all the contrary information and opposing views from the scientific community?designbot
- oops...double post.designbot
- Tommy, what I said makes no sense whatsoever?DrBombay
- It makes sense if you're trying to explain the concept of good and evil to a 5 year old. But in this case, no.mathinc
- If you think it's as easy as saying that environmental org produces agenda-less fact, you're wrong.mathinc
- It seems silly to be shocked that a manmade global warming study was sponsored by an Env organization.DrBombay
- I thought KFC sponsored them all!!! OMGWTF!DrBombay
- Who is shocked? .. the way I read designbots post is that there IS misinformation on both sides.mathinc
- Is the word "shocked" really a deal-breaker in my statement?DrBombay
- Talking to you is like riding a merry-go-round on acid.mathinc
- so its "media hype" when they disagree with you? wtf?spifflink
