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- tommyo0
^^ Oh please TBO. That's not it at all and you know it.
And Rick, it'd be nice if more people in this country attributed their problems with their own decisions and not blame everything on the 'situation' they feel has nothing to do with their actions. This btw has NOTHING to do with 'every man for himself' and EVERYTHING to do personal responsibility. You seem hell bent on taking the plight of the very least fortunate in society and claiming it as your own. 'If you're capable' what's wrong with that? You know exactly who that is meant to exclude from the 'get off your ass' statement but that's not good enough for your sensibilities. It's meant to exclude the very least fortunate, which doesn't include you, to get off their ass and make something of themselves. What the fuck is wrong with expecting every able bodied man or woman to try to make something of themselves??
- Hey don't drag me into this, I just posted a funny quote...c'mon "motherfucking turkey". THAT's comedy gold...TheBlueOne
- Good people fall through the cracks all of the time.DrBombay
- Tommy, this screams that you're a heartless prick.DrBombay
- and you say the words "try to make something of themselves", what if they fail? Fuck em?DrBombay
- tommyo0
"Good people fall through the cracks all of the time." - DrBombay
You think this falls silently on the ears of conservatives? To the point where they 'care only about themselves'? It's just more convenient, and audacious of you to think that you're the only asshole who keeps the people who've fallen through the cracks alive. Honestly, you're deluded.
- DrBombay0
Yes I am the ONLY one keeping them alive, you fucking cocksucker. That is exactly what I am saying... You don't even fucking believe that shit.
- PonyBoy0
Rick... if you're capable of making a living and educating yourself... please get off you're ass.
This is something I would / will say to anyone... race, sex, religion... whatever...
And if your response is 'Yes - but good people fall through the cracks all the time'...
... my response would be:
No shit, Sally. Welcome to the fucking world. Would you like every baby to get a lei, ukulele and $10k to start out life? Should we start eliminating the idea that some folks are born w/'more talent' or 'more desire' than others and hope that everything starts to just even out smoothly so that each man, woman and child has the exact same lot in life according to their needs as apposed to their desires and personal motivation?
I'd then proceed to hand you a box of free kleenex and once again tell you to get off your ass as you're more than capable of creating a life for yourself in this country if you just open your eyes and stop hoping for someone to show up and wipe your ass for you.
- tommyo0
"and you say the words "try to make something of themselves", what if they fail? Fuck em?"
What if they fail? Seriously what if they fail?? Are fucking kidding me. You're right, fuck 'trying' lest you fail. The logic you've adopted is the reason people get in bad situations. You're the great enabler. Logic like this creates poverty. You're the heartless prick propagating the notion that it's not the individuals fault, it's someone elses.
- DrBombay0
You should go dig up Ayn Rand's corpse and make love to it.
- tommyo0
Man I am all for helping the least fortunate. I'm offended by your want to do nothing and blame someone else for the way your life turns out. In the scheme of things, you're the heartless prick and you don't even know it.
- DrBombay0
You both have added about a paragraph a piece to anything I have actually said. So go ahead, just keep on going with it. Add as much as you want to things I have said. This place is tired.
- PonyBoy0
If you fell through the cracks once... TRY AGAIN, DUMMY.
- tommyo0
I'm sorry Rick but you seem to view the poor and less fortunate all lumped into one boat. There are people who can't help their situation, and there are people who can. You'd like everyone to pitch in for both sets. I'm more than happy to pitch in for the former, and the latter can get off their ass and do what I do.
- Hi I am Tommy's Strawman, RIck. Nice to meet you!DrBombay
- DrBombay0
I almost wish you both would have a tragedy happen in your life that stops you from being such hot shots about your place in society. The arrogance is fucking amazing.
- DrBombay0
You guys have told me what my opinion is about 100 times on this page alone. Wow.
- tommyo0
Haha oh boy you're rich. You think I haven't faced adversity? It's that adversity that taught me that I'm prepared to solve my problems. If I fell on hard times and I absolutely HAD to I'd gladly go on welfare, but you'd see the hardest working mother fucker if I did. I'd do anything to be independent, wash dishes, clean windows, work at a fast food place (sorry Obama).
Maybe we were raised differently Rick. See I was taught that my outcome was mine and mine alone. I haven't received anything from anyone. No special treatment even when working for my own family. So go ahead and keep wishing that tragedy strikes me down. You'd see something to write about if it did.
- Your family owns a fucking subway sandwich chain, tommy! Gimme a break.DrBombay
- I have been working since I was 12, so get off your high horse you cunt.DrBombay
- There you go characterizing again. You know jack shit about how things operate. Absolutely jack shit.tommyo
- Guess what jackass, me too. Don't even try to label me as some silver spooner. You have no idea my upbringing.tommyo
- I am just following your lead, you paint me as some fuckhead on unemployment most of my life.DrBombay
- So you accuse me of doing the exact fucking thing you just did.DrBombay
- PonyBoy0
FUCK YOU, RICK.
Don't even attempt that 'I almost wish you both would have a tragedy'...
...FUCK YOU.
You know my fucking health situation... you know the fucking situation I deal with with my family...
... FUCK YOU.
If there's anyone who NEEDS HELP and can't find it... IT'S ME. I don't have health insurance... and NO ONE will insure me w/out getting a job first... and then I'll have to wait a year on my pre-existing condition before anyone will fucking care to insure me...
... I put my family first this last year and ran myself up a MAD DEBT w/the government (my personal taxes) to TAKE CARE OF MY OWN.
I'm working through all this shit - IT'S GOD DAMN FCUKING KILLING ME AND MY HAPPINESS... has for a couple of years now... but I DON'T WANT YOUR FUCKING MONEY to help me as I'M BEYOND capable of managing this situation still...
... it's not the easiest shit to figure out - but I'm doing / still doing my research - TEARING through every outlet I can find to eventually get the healthcare I need... and I HAVE found a couple of solutions.
Does it suck? yes.
Is it easy? no.
Is this LIFE? YES.My health IS NOT YOUR PROBLEM. My family... IS NOT YOUR PROBLEM.
... I want the GOV to stay the FUCK out of my pockets so I can continue to manage my own life and make decisions as to which Doctors I see.. when I want to see them... and under what circumstances I can see them etc...
I'm more than capable of moving through life right now w/my personal 'tragedy' as you call it, fucker... (dobs).
- DrBombay0
I love how you both paint me as a guy that thinks everyone should get free checks. I have never once fucking said that, ever. So again, continue to shovel opinions into my mouth.
- tommyo0
And how do you feel about your characterization that we don't give a shit about anyone but ourselves you moron? I guess that doesn't resonate as the same thing. You're a narcissistic political zealot.
- I honeslty believe it, Id respect it if you fucking admitted it.DrBombay
- And I want your respect? I guess look up what 'narcissistic' is and you'll see why you care about everyone's 'respect.'tommyo
- Then look up zealot and you'll see why you've never conceded anything flawed about your beliefs.tommyo
- wow, really?DrBombay
- Yep, it's you. I won't even charge you for my psychoanalysis.tommyo
- Your narcissism will keep you from being honest about it though. But that's the nature of the term isn't it?tommyo
- wow.DrBombay
- DrBombay0
All you ever do is talk about how their shouldnt be any support for basically fucking anything and then have a fucking fit when I tell you I don't think you care about other people. What the fuck should people think?
If you are weak, you're fucked, fuck social security, it's a handout, fuck national health care, it's a handout, fuck everything the government ever does, it's a handout for the weak. Even though people pay into these things their entire lives, it is a handout. You build your own roads, light your own street lights, educate your own kids, pay your own private police force, firemen and if anyone else cant afford it, fuck em. That is an exxagerated view of it, but it is spot on to what both of you assholes just did to me a few posts up.
- PonyBoy0
"It was done to illustrate a point, you fucking crybaby."
And what was your fucking point that you were illustrating, asshole... that I don't understand 'personal tragedy'... that I don't get that time and unforeseen occurrence befall us all?
All you have in response is to call me a crybaby?
I fit the 'bill' of your 'tragedy ridden American' PERFECTLY... and that's not good enough for you... I still don't get 'it' in your book?
- DrBombay0
I was talking to Tommy in the notes section, actually.
Kev we all have problems, not all is personal health but we all have problems. I had to take on the loan and move back to my Mother's house when she lost her job. That is a personal tragedy also. Now there are people that want to take her unemployment checks from being extended, even though there are absolutely no jobs out there at all. Is it fair? No, did I come through for her when I could, yes. SO you guys can keep fucking telling me that I want fucking handouts and checks for free from the government because I am weak or whatever other bullshit you like. You guys do not have the market cornered on personal adversity.
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