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- joeth0
Happy Earth Week!
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- ********0
Obama meeting with, smiling with, shaking hands with, and carrying on with, Hugo Chavez, is an absolute disgrace to the Venezuelan people, and an embarrassment to the United States of America.
... but Obama "wrote it off" by saying that, "... this is what the American people wanted, and voted for"...
Obama— fuck you.
- DrBombay0
This thread isn't worth anyone's time. Conservatives don't give a fuck about anyone but themselves. There is no reason to debate this anymore.
- TheBlueOne0
Yeah. I'm done. I have better things to do than spend half the day arguing with a guy only to have him return day after day with whatever lame lines he gets from Glen Beck or Rush Limbaugh....
Maybe see you guys in 2010...
- DrBombay0
Im just positive that getrefresh is here to strictly aggravate people. This shit is tired, your ideology is on the short end of the stick now, the pendulum has swung. Your turn to bitch for a few years.
- Sad thing is GR tows the party line, you tow the party line - yet he's here simply to 'annoy.'tommyo
- I don't tow the party line, you can keep your guns.DrBombay
- not debating this bullshit anymore. your turn to be pissed off for 4 yearsDrBombay
- haha I can 'keep my guns,' in the same sentence as 'I don't tow the party line.' You're just a political zealot. Much like the ...tommyo
- religious zealots who think they're supremely right while everyone else is wrong. How novel.tommyo
- you love fighting tommy. It makes no sense to continue to do this.DrBombay
- Pointing out your flawed logic is the highlight of my day. Please don't leave me. :Dtommyo
- you and getrefresh can keep pulling each others free market puds, have fun.DrBombay
- funny that you have more in common, ideologically, with that shithead than anyone else. :DDrBombay
- Thought you were leaving?tommyo
- leftDrBombay
- DrBombay0
With twitter and facebook, this place is becoming more and more unnecessary.
- tommyo0
Rick,
I'm sorry that you see it that way. Unfortunately I don't think being against governments 'support everyone,' 'more taxes and everyone will have a better life' approach means that you only care about yourself.
On another note, I'm getting a little tired of Obama slapping certain industries in the face. Twice now he's disparaged industries that are close to home for me. When he gave a thumbs down to corp conventions / meetings in Las Vegas many many companies pulled their contracts. My sister is close to losing her job now, she works in the convention dept at Mandalay Bay. The thing is, even if these companies host their conventions at less notorious places it could conceivably cost them and their attendees far more money due to that fact that Vegas is built on the 'everything under one roof' theme.
Now he mentions that if we don't work on education then people will be working in fast food jobs. Not like it isn't already hard for fast food industries to find decent employees, with stereotypes like this echoing from the top it simply furthers the negative stigma. I'm sorry but fast food jobs can 1. Become an extremely well paying career for some. 2. Give young people their first taste of working. 3. Possibly turn into ownership opportunities for people who otherwise would be working for someone else their whole lives. I know plenty of people that have enjoyed the last scenario there; in one case I know a man who applied for a job with a friend, the owner said they had one opening, the two friends split the position and the guy became one of the top execs at Jack in the Box. Sure, fast food jobs are the whipping boy stereotypes of service industry, so they're the easy target.
- tommyo is 100% correct.********
- Conventions can be a huge waste of $$$, I see his point.********
- Oh sorry, yeah to fix an economy everyone needs to just pucker up and stop spending.tommyo
- I have exp. in that area. Do you have any idea how much $ we waste on those damn things?********
- CES is one of them.********
- absolutely no return for your investment. It's a fact.********
- Do you know how much revenue is made during these things? I lived in LV for nearly a decade.tommyo
- And it's not like these companies aren't still having their corp meetings, they just aren't doing it in Vegas now.tommyo
- why pour $ into a vacation. It's counter productive for our business. We have cut back.********
- tommyo is 100% correct.
- tommyo0
Maybe we all need a little cute today:
- PonyBoy0
"Conservatives don't give a fuck about anyone but themselves."
And that's why I can't be bothered to write more than 30 words here at a time now.
C'mon, Rick... you really think tommyo, getrefresh, designbot... ME?... don't care for anyone but ourselves?.. because that's exactly what you just said and it's pretty fucking polarizing when there is PLENTY of agreement going on.
- It's just the out-of-touch liberal justification for anyone who doesn't agree with 'gov provided _____' (fill in the blank)tommyo
- ********0
tommyo^^
Those conventions are a complete joke. They only people who see any kind of return are the ones who live there. We spent 7 figures 2 years ago and it was such a bust. They are self gratifying masturbation trips. Vacations for execs on the company bill. Everyone in our industry is either pulling out or scaling back. Such a waste of money.
- tommyo0
I see what you're saying. However, these companies are STILL having their company meetings. I'm not really talking about the conventions like CES. The mas exodus of companies who HAD company retreats/meetings planned, but then canceled after Obamas speech is somewhat staggering. I think my sister said that some 75% of their already scheduled meetings canceled. Regardless, the companies are still having their meetings, just not in the town that the president labeled as 'excessive.' When in fact there are monetary benefits to having your company meet in Vegas. It's just propagating a stereotype about Vegas, a city that only exists for tourism. If tourism stopped, it would crumble no doubt.
- PonyBoy0
^^at morilla and tommyo...
... think of all the cash that gets spent though - and all the people who keep working - hotels stay open, event graphics are created, catering companies swell w/work... I can go on and on...
...my point is - not everything that costs money and is 'frivolous' is all that bad as it keeps loads of businesses cranking and plenty of people working...
... and when people are working and can fend for their own... :)
- ********0
It is not our job to keep others employed. It is our job to sell our product. And trade shows do not achieve that goal.
- wow... that sounds so selfish of you!PonyBoy
- :)PonyBoy
- You know what I mean ;)********
- Morilla only cares about himself!! Dirty Raiders lovin Republican!! hehe :Ptommyo
- C'mon!!! You guys know my point! I care about everyone!!!********
- I am specifically talking CES,IFA, CEATEC. Huge tech shows, huge wastes of $********
- Nuh uh... you're incapable of love. :Otommyo
- loveless heartless profit-driven morilla... :DPonyBoy
- I am not of this material world which you speak of.********
- how many monitors you have for your music setup? *ahem
:DPonyBoy - AND I'M JUST GIVING YOU SHIT!
:) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :)PonyBoy - Ten minutes ago you mentioned 'return on investment' ... conflicted loveless morilla. I want to hug you.tommyo
- I <3 you morrila.tommyo
- I know, I got caught up in business speak. I think I blacked out. WTF happened.********
- you back?
*slaps morilla in the face...
I think he's coming 'round... play some metal and poor a shot please, tommyPonyBoy - hahaha! btw, man I'm missing the fucking draft this weekend. So upset. I just hope you guys draft some bust worthy guys.tommyo
- GO PATRIOTS!!!!PonyBoy
- I am ok,,, ,thanks for the slap guys!********
- How are you missing the draft?********
- Pats need a back-up QB this year********
- and that's pretty much what I spend all my spare $ on, is music gear. Keeps me out of trouble ;)********
- haha... you don't have to explain your self-centered method of spending your profits to me...PonyBoy
- I've got this snow skills class up in the Sierras for the weekend. Ice axe, crampons, roping and rescue, whiskey.tommyo
- ...
:D :D :D
Okay... I'll stop... :)PonyBoy - I am selling all my stuff and moving to Tibet!********
- tommyo0
btw, just to clarify. I'm not saying the 75% is because of Obama independently. I'm sure a large majority of the cancellations were due to economy concerns. But Vegas right now is hurting very badly. They were one of the hardest hit because of the housing crash, tourism is way down because of the economy, the last thing they needed was for the president to label trips to Vegas as 'excessive.'
- ********0
By the way, I come in here, post one sentiment, that I deem "important", and you all get whipped into a lather?
The bottom line is, that "HUGO=HUGE-FAIL". Who can possibly disagree with that?
- ********0
NEWS FLASH:
President Obama holds FIRST cabinet meeting... what? It took ALL this time to round up the folks for the first time?I just don't understand.
- DrBombay0
I love how you guys try to act as if there isn't a massive component to being a conservative that encompasses the idea of "every man for himself"
- "pull yourself up by your bootstraps" etc.DrBombay
- survival of the "fittest"locustsloth
- PonyBoy0
^^conservatives don't think like that...
It's not 'every man for himself'...
...it's...
...'get off your ass if you're capable'.
- TheBlueOne0
"Hell, that’s like offering to share your turkey with the other Pilgrims! That’s not what America is all about! America is every Pilgrim for himself, dammit! Raise your own motherfucking turkey!"