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- tommyo0
Hey Rick, we're talking about education not health care. Tell me your solutions.
- And I just looked two pages back. No solutions sorry. Just 40 mil people and a bunch of crying done by you.tommyo
- Sorry, *40 million people without healthcare. Anyways enlighten me with your grand ideas for education reform.tommyo
- pay teachers more, great start. lure the best and brightest into that profession.DrBombay
- increase the amount of teachers, make classrooms smaller, more attn per child.DrBombay
- So just more money, that's your solution?tommyo
- this is what they do in other countries that kick us in the balls educationally.DrBombay
- More teachers = more money. Where is this magic money coming from?tommyo
- progress costs money, sorry. tax hater.DrBombay
- taxes.DrBombay
- So the system is fine it just needs more money?tommyo
- you hate taxes, we get it. but other countries are investing in education and we arent.DrBombay
- So whats the tax level that you'd be upset with? Cause 30% is what I'm currently paying and I don't like it.tommyo
- needs more teachers. more extracurricular activities, more foreign language, more investment.DrBombay
- Your only solution is more taxes, more government.tommyo
- I care about my country, levy my taxes higher if necessary for us to compete globally. Its working everywhere else.DrBombay
- So when is it too much for you? I'm asking you a direct question. Do you pay taxes?tommyo
- no, more teachers. smarter teachers, foreign teachers if necessary.DrBombay
- no I dont pay taxes at all, I drive a cadillac and suck welfare tit, you cock.DrBombay
- Are you going to answer my direct questions?tommyo
- Well I'm just wondering, I haven't called you any names. So what is the tax level that is too high for you.tommyo
- I did, yes I pay taxes.DrBombay
- hasnt hiut that level yet, are you wearing a revolutionary army hat right now? pouring tea into the tub?DrBombay
- WHAT TAX LEVEL IS TOO HIGH FOR YOU. Fuck, seriously can you read??tommyo
- No I'm not. What's your tax level if I might ask.tommyo
- not exactly sure, I have mainly payroll taxes and some freelance.DrBombay
- And not to confuse you by asking you another question but... if the system is inefficient shouldn't we fix that first?tommyo
- I will not take part in notes this long, start another post.DrBombay
- new post pleaseDrBombay
- Doesn't that make sense? Because if we're going to fund education more, then the waste will also be taking some of thattommyo
- meaning it won't go to the teachers, then not to the kids. Less of an effect.tommyo
- DrBombay0
we need to decide what is broken first.
- tommyo0
Continuation of thread: This is silly to start a new thread about this but okay to recap your solution is to hire more/better teachers. My question for you is that doesn't it make sense to fix the system, clear up the obvious waste that's leeching funding right off the top? AND hire more teachers with the extra funding you save from that? Or is that just too practical?
- tommyo0
This was in Ron Pauls book, I've tried to find the study but haven't found it yet. Anyhow NYC School system vs some catholic one that serviced 1/3 of the amount of students. The guy doing the research calls the NYC School district and asked simply 'How many people work in your office there?' It took him some 10 phone calls, people telling him they're not authorized to tell him, people who didn't know, until he finally got an answer and it was in the thousands. I want to say 3 thousand administration employees, not teachers. He called the catholic one and whhen he asked the same question, the person said "I don't know.." The guy making the phone call thought, 'oh here we go again'...then the person on the line said, 'Hold on let me count...11 people.'
^^ Define the waste well enough. No matter how you feel about Paul, this is indicative of gov agencies. My Grandmother worked for Honeywell in the 40's, who contracted for the gov and she quit because she was bored. She said people would come in and read newspapers all day long.
- so you are all for privatizing education then, huh? Even when it leaves tons of kids out?DrBombay
- public school has to be accountable and have oversight, private schools not so much.DrBombay
- its not perfect and it could trim some but you need experts to do this.DrBombay
- dont get me started on catholics ;)DrBombay
- Hey, I'm a product of catholic education...TheBlueOne
- utopian0
Healthcare? http://www.qbn.com/topics/329751…
- tommyo0
Rick this is in response to your notes. I'm trying to remain calm but you remind me of my ex girlfriend and her twisted logic. The EXAMPLE is from the book. Did I say I support Pauls solution? No I surely didn't. Not to mention that on the last page I said what I thought was a solution...did it say I was for privatizing education? I mean really, are you this dim? Do you read the words 'Ron Paul' and then match that up with his stance on education reform and then spit that out? Is that how your logic works?
- I'm boarding my flight back to LA. Have a blast.tommyo
- these conversations are non-starters. you hate taxes, all my solutions cost money, case fucking closed.DrBombay
- have a nice flight.DrBombay
- Man you're dense. Because I'd like our taxes spent responsibly then I hate taxes. 1 + 2 = 8 with you.tommyo
- Just keep towing the party line. I honestly don't think you have it in you to form your own opinion. It's pure rhetoric and posturing.tommyo
- tommyo0
Kind of an interesting read about two schools of thought emerging on the future of banking.
'The Krugman Democrats opt for nationalizing today's troubled banks. The Summers Democrats counter that dramatic bank restructuring, including nationalization, could collapse the system. Instead, the Summersites favor turning big banks into something similar to local electric or water companies -- heavily regulated, unimaginative public utilities.
Given their recent spree of arrogance, stupidity and greed, bankers deserve as much. But would it be in America's best interest for banks to be talent-deficient utilities?
Our largest 10 banks control 75% of total bank assets. They channel pensions and other investable assets as well. If these banks start acting like utilities, they'll take far fewer investment risks. That will lead to less investment in business expansion, lower economic growth and higher long-term unemployment.
Few want to admit it, but economic prosperity and job-creation depend on financial risk-taking. Because of the credit crisis, we are moving from an era of reckless financial risk-taking to an ironically more dangerous era of virtually no risk-taking.'
- tommyo0
Awesome... gov just can't keep their 'we'll fix it' hands off of anything these days. Here Barney Frank would like to create an FDIC like protection on state municipal bonds, so that their credit rating is falsely represented. Just how much risk should our gov be taking on? IMO they're playing it loose and fast JUST like the bankers have been doing. No caution be taken for future economic hiccups. Can we change the House of Representatives to the House of Cards?
'If Mr. Frank really believes that state and local governments have been forced to overpay for this insurance, one has to assume his federal program would charge lower premiums and so undercut its private-sector competitors. The government can charge low premiums without putting taxpayers on the hook, he argues, because the risk of default is so low.
Or is it? The payment history of municipal bonds seems to support Mr. Frank. But then the triple-A ratings assigned to many mortgage-backed securities were also based on backward-looking models that failed to anticipate today's housing bust. The muni-bond performance record is also mostly the history of uninsured bonds. But the very existence of insurance can change the behavior of the policyholder or beneficiary -- watch Barbara Stanwyck and Fred MacMurray in the 1944 classic "Double Indemnity." If a state or locality knows someone else will make bondholders whole, they are far more likely to default than an uninsured issuer would be.
Many states and localities have run up huge pension and health-care obligations to retirees that will come due over the next few decades. And many of those obligations were underfunded even before the bottom fell out of the stock market. When those bills hit, cities will have to choose among raising taxes, cutting benefits or stiffing bondholders. In some states, such as New York, retiree benefits are constitutionally protected, and taxes are already chokingly high. So stiffing the bond insurers will look pretty attractive.'
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Here's a nice sign.
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For those of you who did not actually attend a tea party, please refrain from running your pie-hole so vigorously.- < but look tommyo, typo on "your"— LOL!********
- hahah okay now that guy should have been shot on site!tommyo
- < but look tommyo, typo on "your"— LOL!
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Donald Trump fired the whole congress on celebrity apprentice? Wow!
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^^^ It's so comical that BonSeff would say, "stay classy you fucking hillbillies", when asking the "hillbillies" to "stay classy". LOL!!!
- its called irony, jackassBonSeff
- No, I maintain "comical". And I'm still laughing btw!!!********
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- tommyo0
Are you liberals at some convention or something? No posts for three days, this has to be a record.
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- tommyo0
This is what I want to see today:
