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- robotron3k0
if you're so hardcore, why aren't you enlisted and serving in the US Military?? or are you just like all those other Republican pussies??
- Why aren't you at a food bank or helping kids learn then? I mean, if you're so hardcore. Stereotypes ....tommyo
- SigDesign0
Pretty amazing...
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http://www.amazon.com/Carter-Pre…
"What Carter had that his opponents did not was the acceptance and support of elite sectors of the mass communications media. It was their favorable coverage of Carter and his campaign that gave him an edge, propelling him rocket-like to the top of the opinion polls. This helped Carter win key primary election victories, enabling him to rise from an obscure public figure to President-elect in the short space of 9 months."--------------
Sounds oddly familiar dudn't? Especially with Ford being highly unpopular and Bush the same.
- Whip Inflation Now ...was all Ford could muster after pardoning Richard Nixon. He was ill-equipped to lead.********
- Whip Inflation Now ...was all Ford could muster after pardoning Richard Nixon. He was ill-equipped to lead.
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Industrial society needs some degree of openness for a variety of reasons including scientific development, and product marketing efficiency. Excessive totalitarianism had a bad taste also from the excesses of horrors of World War II. Populist and Democratic forces for while had an upper hand. But the managers increasingly gained control of their own economic future by appointing essentially their own board of directors. Members of interlocking boards, the managers controlled their own destiny as well as the destinies of their companies. They were able to profit personally from the corporate lobbying their companies underwrote. Still they needed the ideology of capitalism to support their activity. They profited individually and as a class from U.S. policy to build up foreign governments to counteract the threatening power of the Soviet Union.
Now they need to be controlled and regulated. Treasury Secretary Paulson an exemplary member of that class, sometimes called the class of Davos, now recognizes the necessity of increased regulation of his class. Of course he doesn’t want it done under Congress’s continuous Scrutiny. He wants it to be done by the Fed an opaque mysterious body, something like the Soviet's Politburo although a bit more transparent in its current incarnation. One can understand why true believers in an increasingly dead capitalism sarcastically show Bernanke as Lenin in the recent cover on Business Week.
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and....
What is happening in this pseudo-capitalist economic system is that profits are privatized and losses are socialized. There is increasing recognition of this, but effective political will to stop it is still absent. The rich get richer just like in the old capitalist system. The poor are subsidized and amused by TV, in the rich countries serving the function of gladiator spectacles in the latter Roman Republic. The middle classes face the prospect of relative pauperization. Once again the fear mongers have the upper hand.
- tommyo0
Before I surgically remove myself from this thread. Spending WAY too much time here.
I'm curious about one thing involving our political structure and the way that our population as a whole views it in terms of their faith and power. Government is made up predominantly of ex lawyers. Not doctors, economists, foreigners, teachers, engineers etc etc. So why does society in general trust the government to be experts in the fields in which constitutes the major decisions they make? Why do we have faith that the people making the decisions are qualified to make them? I really don't understand why we expect people, like you and me, with only the certain range of knowledge and expertise that any one person can have to make the 'right' decision in a realm outside of their knowledge. Why are we so blindly faithful that they make decisions with favorable outcomes for us?
- Not only that, but many experts in their chosen field are ignored for political reasons.SigDesign
- Professional organizations lobby for policy all the time.Mimio
- who is blindly faithful?DrBombay
- I don't think anyone is very faithful of the government these daysSigDesign
- I prefer a bureaucratic muddle to decisive ideology********
- Sig, you're very right. You should see how pot got outlawed. Politics over medical findings http://wiki.answers.…tommyo
- not contradicting you but isnt Ron Paul a doctor? woulda voted for him.robco
- Ron Paul is a doctor in the same way Che Guevara was a doctor or George Habash.********
- Yeah he was a doctor. I like him too. :)tommyo
- fringe quack********
- capsize you have no idea what you're talking about. Did Che deliver over 4k babies?tommyo
- Again, none of this really has to do with the post. I'm just wondering why we have such faith in politicians to do 'right.'tommyo
- Che has sold thousand of t-shirts though. So I guess that makes him a capitalist of sorts :)TheBlueOne
- haha! indeed.tommyo
- Guevara: revolutionary simpleton, Habash, terrorist
Paul: paranoid fantasist********
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inspiring.
take this Johnnyboy- :.D_salisae_
- That’s gold, Jerry, GOLD!MrOneHundred
- got that right!sea_sea
- emmaopeel0
from NPR
At Rally, Muslim McCain Supporters Meet Intolerance
http://link.brightcove.com/servi…- if it were all so easy. The McCain Country Club First campaign had johnny-on-the -spot: "if you believe in the constitution you would not believe that."********
- in the constitution, you would not believe that." The campaign does not endorse this guy.********
- if it were all so easy. The McCain Country Club First campaign had johnny-on-the -spot: "if you believe in the constitution you would not believe that."
- BusterBoy0
How can this election be anything but an Obama landslide? It's simply astounding that it is even a contest at the moment and that is worrisome.
- TheBlueOne0
Via Chicago Tribune:
"A 74-year-old woman and a 46-year-old man with Obama signs in their front yards near the 600 block of South Villa Avenue received similar letters that had a Villa Park Village Hall return address. "Get the Obama signs off your property—now," the letter reads. "Failure to obey this order will result in the immediate death of all family members." Both residents said they will not remove their signs, though the man, who had voted Republican for 25 years before switching parties this year, said his wife is worried about letting their 7-year-old son play alone outside."
The Fayetteville Observer:
"Someone slashed the tires of at least 30 vehicles parked outside the Crown Coliseum on Sunday during a rally for Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama, authorities said.
Sheriff’s deputies are investigating. The tires were cut while people were inside the Crown Coliseum listening to speeches, said Maj. E. Wright of the Cumberland County Sheriff’s Office.
Many of the damaged vehicles were parked on Wilkes Road. Representatives from Obama and Sen. John McCain’s campaigns said they were unaware of the acts.
Susan Lagana, the North Carolina communications director for Obama, said it was extremely disappointing and unfortunate that "people would have to experience something like that."
http://www.fayobserver.com/artic…
From the Asheville Citizen-Times:
A dead bear was found dumped this morning on the Western Carolina University campus, draped with a pair of Obama campaign signs, university police said.
Maintenance workers reported about 7:45 a.m. finding a 75-pound bear cub dumped at the roundabout near the Catamount statute at the entrance to campus, said Tom Johnson, chief of university police.
"It looked like it had been shot in the head as best we can tell. A couple of Obama campaign signs had been stapled together and stuck over its head," Johnson said."
http://www.citizen-times.com/app…
My brother with the Obama sticker on his car just had words with his neighbor with the McCain-Palin sign, and let's say it involved threats of violence and the "terrorist" and "N" words.
This is going to get ugly.
No, Republicans... but please do go on with the "terrorist/Anti-American" narrative you got going there. Because that's what "real americans" do, right? Dish out the hate and fear. Rock on.
- TheBlueOne0
Make it fucking stop, please. Now they're inferring that Obama is teh Gay.
http://www.politico.com/news/sto…
He's like a one-stop boogie man shop for the moronic right.
- hahah. It’s pathetic.MrOneHundred
- anything and everything to try and smear the guy.dbloc
- i didn't really get the gay inference from that article,.BrokenAC
- tommyo0
Ron Paul a racist?
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Dr. Paul's latest Texas Straight Talk:In the midst of highly unpopular bailouts of Wall Street, many justifications have been given about why Washington feels the need to act. Some claim that capitalism and the free market are to blame, but we have not had capitalism. If you compare our financial capital to our aggregate debt, this would be obvious. In the same way, we have not had a truly free market. The monetary manipulations of the Federal Reserve, a complex tax code, the many “oversight” agencies and their mountains of regulations show that we are far removed from a free market economy.
Another unsatisfying argument is that certain entities have to be bailed out because of their economic importance. Supposedly, some entities can be so big, so important, that no matter what they do, citizens must perpetually sustain them.
Even limited government has a basic duty to defend against force and fraud. Some argue that force is somehow permissible just because the entity engaging in it is "economically significant." But one could use this reasoning to prop up slavery. It could be deemed unfortunate but economically beneficial, and indeed these arguments have been used historically to deprive people of their liberty. But slavery should never be tolerated regardless of any economic benefit, just as systemic fraud should not be tolerated. Some banks on Wall Street should fail. Fannie and Freddie should fail. They are perpetrating fraud against the people. Yet, government insists on rewarding behavior which should instead be investigated, prosecuted, and punished.
There has been much evidence of fraud at Fannie and Freddie, but when one man, Franklin Raines, defrauded the organization out of millions of dollars through illegal accounting tricks, and ends up agreeing to pay back just a fraction, one could argue that it was well worth it to him. Fannie went on to only get more deeply involved in subprime mortgages after this investigation. Several organizations are suffering right now precisely because the free market is trying to work and punish mismanagement, if only the government would get out of the way and let it. Perhaps banks are not lending to each other because they know that complicated accounting standards, created in part to defend against confiscatory tax policy, enables false fiscal pictures to be presented, which erodes trust. But this is not a time for the government to step in with more burdensome and complicated regulations, or more foolish liquidity injections. This is a time for some banks to fail, and remaining banks to deal honestly and transparently once again. More regulations will only result in more lies.
Just as economies that turned away from slave labor had a transition period, our economy would transition as well, but in the end, if we turned to honest, sound money and a truly free market, we would end up with a more just society, founded on truthfulness and decency, not subject to the violence of force or the whims of fraudulent institutions. Unfortunately, it seems we are headed into a new era of slavery, however, where all taxpayers will be forced to render to the Fed and big banking interests the bulk of the fruits of their labor, possibly through higher taxes but definitely through the eroding force of inflation.
- he denounced slavery, wow, he should get the NAACP award :PDrBombay
- haha just sayin'. Paul's ray gun is aimed at gov abuse not minorities. Just like me!! :)tommyo
- http://www.pawnstarp…DrBombay
- "truly free market, we would end up with a more just society"
Snake Oil 100%********
- hallelujah0
this thread smells like shit
- dbloc0
smells like updog in here.
- DrBombay0
Pretty classy people here.
http://thinkprogress.org/2008/10…
- BrokenAC0
Fear in Cape Fear
http://bubblemixx.com/wordpress/…
One not-so-nice Christian lady, Ms. Diane Fanning, kept yelling, “Socialist, Socialist... Get out of here!” at United States Senator Barack Obama as he made a pit stop for food and votes at “Cape Fear BBQ & Chicken” in North Carolina, Sunday. “At least he’s not a warmonger!” another diner, Cecilia Hayslip, 61, reportedly yelled back at Ms. Fanning.
Obama was given a mixed greeting at the restaurant, some diners applauded his arrival, while others, such as Ms. Fanning of the local First Presbyterian Church, who along with some other church-goers had gathered at the restaurant after services, were quite hostile. Senator Obama offered to shake hands with Ms. Fanning, but she refused, and later told reporters “I still think he’s a closet Muslim.” (Source) Referring to the warmer reception Obama got from other diners, Ms. Fanning added, “some of ‘em are just nicer than I am.”
While Ms. Fanning is no fan of Obama’s he was greeted much more warmly by 76 year old Betty Waylett, who told the senator “you’re doing a great job!” With the notable exception of Ms. Fanning, Senator Obama seemed to do well with the remainder of the diners including the pastor, Randall Bremer who told reporters, “I’m very impressed by his ability to meet people on a down-to-earth level.”
- Fuck me...the world has gone mad. There's no hope.BusterBoy
- DrBombay0
Calling people anti-american is jingoism.
- and the link... http://thinkprogress…DrBombay
- Holy fucking shit. Let's mark this day in our calendars, this is National I Agree with Rick Day. :Ptommyo
- still cuddlingDrBombay
- We might only be able to have IAWR Day every 4 years though, it'll be like a leap year thing.tommyo
- hahatommyo
- wtf izzat?
DrBombay - what the what is what? Oh sorry...I thought my hand was between two pillows. My mistake.tommyo
- hahah lAWR day or something.DrBombay
- oh... I Agree With Rick Day. IAWR Day. Read and retain Rick, read and retain. :Otommyo
- I dont know if you know this but I am always on ecstasy.DrBombay
- http://www.youtube.c…tommyo
- hahahhaDrBombay
- DrBombay0
It's like a lot of your older politicians are used to going to events like this and it not being televised so they say all sorts of crazy shit to rile up their peeps. Then it winds up on the internet and spreads like chlamydia, too funny.
- DrBombay0
all the talk about ACORN and then this...
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/20…
