Site crit please
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- thismanslife0
WTF@this thread...
Emperors new clothes?
- Instead of being all superior - why not offer your own suggestions if you think something's amiss?detritus
- I'm just *really* surprised.thismanslife
- Well...look at what the site is for...Jaline
- thanks for sticking up for the design process and each's development detrius. you'd made a good teacher too.jaylarson
- thismanslife0
"It's simple, and looks good..."
"Your page body layouts are great..."
"I like what I'm seeing..."Sorry to be brutal but, I really disagree with what people are saying!
Comments about capitalisation and highlighting of active tabs... I think there are some overarching fundamental design flaws than those. The layout, colours, type and even production quality are all pretty bad.
Ok, constructive criticism? Again, not meaning to be harsh, but it's hard to know where to start. First off, the layout would greatly benefit from some uniform spacing, it's all over the place. Look at the distance between the areas of content and the edges etc. The grid needs some regularity to its gutters.
- You're right.
I looked at what the site was about and figured it's just supposed to be simple though.Jaline
- You're right.
- detritus0
See? That wasn't so hard, was it? Everyone has a level and the thing to do is to aim your criticism or guidance so that it's appropriate to that level. Everyone on here has useful advice to offer - be it from the professional's or user's perspective.
You apologise for being 'brutal' - you needn't - being blunt cuts to the point and sidelines the murky bullshit which can distract from the root problem. Of course, it's always a good idea to temper that with some positives, no matter what you actually think.
ps. I'm still using your phiculator after... gosh knows how long :)
- jaylarson0
again, more great comments. proper grid structure and hierarchies are more important to me right now than style. thanks thismanslife.
- jonatne0
By my standards it's too wide.
You should either make it fluid to 780px or <= 780px strict.
If this was an artsy site catering to more techy people I could see stretching it to 1024px but it isnt. This site caters to an older, less "techy" crowd which I'm willing to bet has about 10-15% users with 800px resolution.
Just my opinion.
- Good point. But since September, only 199 out of 1448 have 800x600. All are greater. Tx tho.jaylarson
- Fariska0
Looks ok for me.
As the other people said, less fonts bit more hierarchy on the copy.
And possibly i'll refine a bit the tabs (more padding / font smaller but bold). and soften the drop shadow on the logo.
And maybe add a title and some bullets to the menu in the sires catalog
I can guess which kind of client this one is, and you did well.
- vespa0
I like the clean simplicity of the site. But the typography isn't working very well.
There are 4 different fonts in the first 4 cm. This seems unnecessary and contributes to a general sense of typographic unease about the site.
The main body copy is set too wide - the optimum line length for onscreen text is 7-10 words before peoples' eyes have trouble following the line.
The way the copy wraps around the photos looks messy. None of the photos are on any discernable grid structure. All gutters are inconsistent.
nice cow tho.
- dbloc0
get rid of the green box on the bottom. and I agree with the comments above. Make the text more interesting and take colors from that photo.
- AssassinAve0
Sorry to say my friend it has a long way to go towards being a standout piece in your portfolio. Good for you for getting cash up front, but you gotta deliver whether you got paid 30 or 3000.
It looks like a raw template that you just filled in. There are major deficiencies in the hierarchy of the content(navigation, type size, images) and then there is the aesthetic component which is sort of the intangible you have to create.
Not really trying to be mean, but do you have any experience in web design? If so are you a designer or developer. You seem to need a designer if you are the latter.
I spend a lot of my time working for small clients in the same area and have to clean up messes like this quite often.
Design isn't something that is cool, its a profession that has serious practitioners that understand how to translate a business' value and goals into communications that speak effectively to their customers.
I viewed some of your other work and it doesn't really seem to be of much higher standard. I would say you need to pursue your strengths or work harder at becoming a designer/developer as it will only serve to make you more prosperous either way.
- exactly what i needed to hear! i am neither developer nor designer. learning on my own.jaylarson
- rtr0
JL sorry for posting that mean note on the first page, I didn't intend to sound so mean. I was just trying to tell you to forget about the compensation and just try to make it good.
Some things to think about:
-font choice
-color choice (green is good but maybe darker different hues)
-photos (put some love into them) gradients/borders maybeI can tell it's not a fun project but it is up to you to make it a little fun.
Good luck and sorry for the mean post earlier.- no problem. i'm a big boy. i don't take anything really personally.jaylarson
- ukit0
Let's face it, it's hard to make a bad-ass-looking site about cows.
- epete220
larsons website is creepy
- BonSeff0
feel free to realize not everybody is looking to set the design world on fire with every project.
larson is one of the good guys, with a very good photographic eye,
maybe not so much with the blog design, but that's why he is leaning on qbn.
- MrOneHundred0
Fouty? (I can’t believe no-one else said this.)
- moamoa0
is this some dutch humor like kessels & kramer?
- designer4rent0
hmm pretty poor