D70 vs 20D
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- Kevin_Sweeney0
the d70 and the digital rebel are both plastic pieces of shit. get a D100 or a 10D. i really don't see much of a reason to shell out the extra for the 20D unless you feel that 3 less ounces and 500x300 more pixels is worth $150 to you.
- BrigadeDesigns0
I post this knowing full well that Canon owns a good chunk of my soul (Adobe has the rest):
Having shot both brads as film cameras, I'm still preferential to the Canons-- Nikkor lenses are very nice, and the fact that they kept the same mount when switching to AF was a nice touch, but EF lenses are nice too.
If it were me, I would get the 20D-- it's a fairly robust body (magnesium alloy), and the harware inside is slightly better (sensors, etc.).
If I were you, though, I'd buy the body and shop around for a separate lens:
http://www.photo.net has never steered me wrong yet.
Just keep one thing in mind:
with either of these cameras, your focal length is different than that on a film camera (the ratio's about1:1.6, I think).
Unless you desperately need a zoom or a wide angle lens, either the EF50 1.8, or the EF85 1.8 are both good standard lenses.Oh, and the D70 doesn't have an available vertical grip-- not a big deal to most, I know, but Nikon's poor (or non-existant) design of grips is somehting that steered me to Canon so many years ago.
- Tyrone0
I have a 20D LOVE it. Canaon has a wider selection of lenses if I'm not mistaken.
- _b_0
I have a D70 and love it. but the 20D is a step up - if you can spring for the extra bucks, you'll love the extra performance/features.
Keep in mind though that body is only half the equation. look into the range of lenses you might want in the future, and see how the different companies stack up there. don't just take into account the body/kit lens package.
- abstrakt0
the 350D and the D70 don't feel like toys at all, IMO, especially the D70.
- malediction0
Again, thanks for all the great advice.
I did hear that the digital rebels were small and lightweight, that steered me away from them. I want a camera that I know is there.
I know not to go with the 18-55 lens, it's not that great, I've heard that a lot.
My roommate has a D20, I'm gonna go home and mess around with it later today.
-CP
- adrianlunadna0
i've shot with both, the d20 is f-ing retarded. the new digic processor processes RAW images ultra fast and the burst mode is insane. if you have the cash, get the D20.
a more fair comparison would be the eos rebel XT vs. the D70.
the rebel XT body is lighter, has a stronger frame to hold heavier lenses without flexing, and is smaller in general.
the D-70 is a great overall camera. the stock lense that comes with it offers amazing detail and image capture, ad the colors are vibrant almost like a lomo.
- lvl_130
i was in your shoes not more than 2 months ago. the d70 is solid and the lens kit it comes with is much better than canon's cheap piece of shit lens.
However, the canon is 8.1 mp to nikon's 6.1 mp (that matters to some) but it is also a few hundred dollars more so...
and the canon is much faster as far as fps (5) compared to nikons 2.5). and canon says it can take a sequence of up to 27 shots (but i have pulled 70 consecutive shots in a row)both are really fast as far as focus time. the canon has 9 points and the nikon uses a matrix (i'm not that familiar with it so i can't really say much to that point)
in the end i went for the canon 20d. i got it without the crappy lens and bought a tamrac 18-200 for another $450. all in all it was just under $2k and totally worth it.
a lot of people would say the lens i bought is shit glass and blah blah blah. i'm not a pro photographer so i guess i don't have the 'eye' to notice the extreme details, but the lens with the camera is the shit! it took me 2 damn years to actually fork out the money for a digi that i thought would be worth it. so far so good.
good luck!
- lvl_130
oh and the new digital rebels are tiny! i don't have tiny squirrel hands so that choice was out the window quick. plus the thing feels like it would break just by putting it in my backpack.
as i said before, both the d70 and 20d are far more substantial in my opinion
- ********0
this is the lens I ended up getting:
- jevad0
great pics jason
- Beech0
I just bought a 350D mainly due to the price also i've been happy with other canon products. I'm more of an amature photographer though, I don't do a lot in my design work at this stage.
I also boght a fixed 50mil lens (cause I love 'em :) and am looking for a good standard zoom at the moment ... some of the sigma ones look good. I've heard bad things about the kit lens, but I haven't teted it yet.
I like some of the things that people have listed as negatives about the camera, so i guess it depends what you use it for. I like the fact that its light as hell, and sure its a bit cheaper constrution but its sooooo much cheaper than the 20D, more lens money i say.
here are my first shots with it from the band "the Pictures" who played here on the weekend
http://www.beechdesign.net/galle…
but ... yeah it sounds like your more interested in a higher end camera ... but yeah some of the canon lenses look sensational so that might be another point for the 20D
- jevad0
ps. D70
- spiralstarez0
cheers jevad.
You've got some nice stuff too. I actually have always really liked the simplicity of your photo viewing pages.
- ourcommon0
canon still owns digital, hands down.
- ********0
it never fails that these threads leave you more confused about the choice you have to make
- MXS0
I'm thinking of picking up the D50, there doesnt seem to be a great difference between the D50 and D70 - anyone had any experience with the D50?
- wilbur0
I've been checking the difference between the canon 350 and the D70, I used a canon and found it cheap to handle and I just wasn't really satisfied with the pictures. The only real decision now really would be the d70 or d50. It does look that the d50 could be the one..