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  • BuddhaHat2

    This one is a lot better, the one above is mumbo-jumbo

    • Having this conversation at CalTech automatically puts Deepak at a distinct disadvantage, but he gets destroyed.BuddhaHat
    • Why, because they have functioning bullshit detectors there?monospaced
    • Because he's in a room of people who, based on their extensive educations, are automatically hostile towards the points of view that Deepak holds on almost anyBuddhaHat
    • topic.BuddhaHat
    • And if there were currently research into the production of bullshit detectors, CalTech might be one of the places working on it :)BuddhaHat
  • _niko3

    The major problem with Abrahamic religions as i see them is this notion of believing in the otherworldly. We worship gods not of this earth but of the heavens and beyond.

    This creates all sorts of problems for us and our planet. We don't hold ourselves accountable for our actions here on earth since we believe at best that god will judge us, and at worst it's god's will.

    We also have zero respect for our planet since our ultimate goal is heaven. We are here temporarily so let's rape and pillage as much as possible since we're going to a better place in the sky.

    Most religions up to this point were rooted in the earth, and earth gods, there was a respect and a balance for nature and the planet.

    • amenmonospaced
    • yupmoldero
    • < Nonsense. Abrahamic religions expressly guide folk to look after their environment. The problem is greedy and ignorant humans regardless of faith or lack of.Morning_star
    • I agree with morning star. People are the problem. Not religion.
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    • Religion is a symptom of the human problemfuturefood
  • BuddhaHat2

    Rikkety-rekt. If you enjoy this sort of logical destruction, the Agatan Foundation has a series of Sam Harris 'Best of...' videos. Some parts are genuinely funny, and exposes religion for the farce that it is.

    • love listening to his talksGnash
    • Sam's short book, Free Will, explores the concept of free will using neuroscientific research to show that at the level of neurons firing in the brain, we haveBuddhaHat
    • very little control over our own actions.BuddhaHat
    • Have a look if you have a philosophical bent, you'll rip through it in an hour or two.BuddhaHat
    • I love Sam's podcasts, because he's not content to sit down and talk to people that hold similar views, he genuinely wants to sit down and talk throughBuddhaHat
    • contentious issues with people that are respected in their own fields of expertise.BuddhaHat
    • I've not cracked his books yet but intend to. I only know his podcasts and interviews. it's a joy watching how he engages in discussions.Gnash
  • dbloc4

  • scarabin2

    • Also the GOP
      Conception
      of the Universe
      utopian
    • When stars were still just the holes to heaven. Mmhmm And there were so many fewer questions.hotroddy
    • at least they had the oil part correctzarkonite
    • lolmoldero
  • monoboy3

  • whatthefunk1

    • lol let's watch those hypocritical Christian bitches squirm when they use this to make them look like backward foolsmonospaced
    • haha
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    • What's wrong with private religious schools? Of ANY kind? It's the PUBLIC religious schools you need to worry about. #MemeFailzarb0z
    • Yeah... and there isn't one public school that pushes any sort of God here in the StatesPonyBoy
    • ^ no public catholic schools in the us?Gnash
    • Is it progressive calling people with different beliefs or opinions to you backwards?robthelad
    • i'd go to that school.pango
    • "Psst kids, there were no such a thing as dinosaurs!! These are dragon bones! The ones Noah forgot to put in the Ark!Fabricio
    • "Dont believe in the media histeria and hype, they think they are superior than us!"Fabricio
    • nothing's wrong if they're private, what's wrong is when the public system is gutted in favor of private-only options, dominated by religionmonospaced
    • @robthelad. Mono has an irrational hatred of Christians. As a younster I think he was baptised against his will ;)Morning_star
    • morningstar in with the false assumptions, based on his own biases and #alternativefactsmonospaced
    • Aren't most children?detritus
    • you're a smart guy, but you sound really off when it seems like you're defending the union of church and statemonospaced
    • thing is ... my original comment will come true, if these guys proceed as shown in the photo ... it's happened so many times it isn't even funnymonospaced
    • Kids get indoctrinated with Religious bullshit as kids, and grow up believing that baby Jesus walked on water and was born to an actual virgin mother.section_014
    • They for real believe it as fact. And, when you question it, they have no fucking answer. "He was just born"/ "So, god fucked her". "No, he was just is" . "k"section_014
    • Again, there's nothing wrong with a private school that teaches ANYthing. Let the rich pay for ignorance. The meme fails. Arguments about collusion are mootzarb0z
    • 'I pledge allegiance to the Flag of the United States of America, and to the Republic for which it stands, one Nation under God, indivisible, with liberty...Morning_star
    • ...and justice for all'Morning_star
    • Wasn't the 'under God' bullshit added under McCarthy, in the 50s?detritus
    • yes, detritus, it was never in the original pledge, but brainwashed christians like their alternative history and keeping their heads deep in the sand about itmonospaced
    • Their protect the children project is rad though... https://thesatanicte…sea_sea
    • bottom line is, if you support the stance that charter schools should be allowed to be christian, you also support their right to be satanicmonospaced
    • hail satanscarabin
    • Mono: sure, I support Satanic private schools. Go for it, let the market decide. That has nothing to do with Christianity, so stick to your broken meme.zarb0z
    • Slippery slope. If you promote religion in schools, what does a hs diploma mean? If creationism is taught and science ignored, I am not sure that'sformed
    • going to fix itself w free "markets". There needs to be some reality or we'll just have cults everywhere. Worse, we'll have kids brain washed and willing toformed
    • die and kill in whatever "God" is taught.formed
    • When are you going to criticize Islam mono?Hayoth
    • @zarboz, it's not my meme and everyone knows it's unrelated to christianity; @hayoth, same god, same stupid bullshitmonospaced
    • 'The Devil' is directly related to xtianity, mono... what are you going on about? Where do you think the story of it's / his existence / origin comes from?PonyBoy
    • satanists are atheists, actuallyscarabin
    • http://www.churchofs…scarabin
    • do satanists actually believe in an entity known as 'lucifer' or 'the devil', scar?PonyBoy
    • ah... Q answered :)PonyBoy
    • What's the point of using all the pagan symbolism if it's meaningless? Seems like it's only purpose would be to piss off other faiths? (this pleases me) :)PonyBoy
    • that's basically it. they recognize a human need for ritual drama. otherwise it'd just be humanismscarabin
    • satanism is basically about denying shame for natural human impulses (like sex, masturbation, etc) and tempering our urgesscarabin
    • so they don't control us.scarabin
    • I just think it's funny that the aim the Devoss-backed is to push a christian initiative, and how it would backfire when other legit religions exploit itmonospaced
    • And trust me, I would criticize each and every one of them for the same things, because substituting science & reason for religious doctrine is backward.monospaced
    • ... that last part came out wrong, but you know what I mean. School simply shouldn't have to be an extension of church. It's not helping anyone.monospaced
    • couldn't agree more, mono
      <3 (you get a heart cuz it's valentine's day)
      .. and these are for scarabin: <3 <3 <3 He gets more cuz he's 'darker' :)
      PonyBoy
    • lol. yesss feed me heartsscarabin
    • You guys are making massive leaps. Private religious schools are fine. What do they mean? I dunno, what does Loyola mean? What does BYU mean, or Princeton?zarb0z
    • Who cares? What do they mean to YOU? Nobody is forcing any religion on anybody. You may FEAR that possibility, but it's not reality. Bring on the Satanists.zarb0z
    • Bring on the scientists, bring on the Muslims, the Jews, the Jain, the Rastafarian. If you can support a credible degree program with a faith, do so.zarb0z
    • Either way, the non-religious schools vastly outnumber the religious schools, either public or private, and that will not change one iota any time soon.zarb0z
    • Obviously nobody's forcing anyone! Nobody said they were! We're laughing about how the christians will SQUIRM when they see other religions doing it...monospaced
    • ... the Ironic part is that it is the conservative christian right that is the most intolerant of other religions in the USA. Fact.monospaced
    • Eh... one can argue that the anti-religious left in the USA is just as intolerant of Christians (but are fine w/other faiths)... kind of a vicious circle, mono.PonyBoy
    • Hayoth mentioned a lack of the same hate for muslims... I have to agree with him. The Left in the USA has a specific hatred for Christianity in general...PonyBoy
    • ... they'll piss in a jar w/a jesus statue and call it art. In the meantime they'll defend muslims who beat their wives as it's a 'part of their culture'PonyBoy
    • ... there most def. is a pick-and-choose scenario going on when it comes to which religions 'the left' chooses to pick onPonyBoy
    • It would seem this Satanist statue is more directed toward the Abrahamic-origin faiths... more specifically in the States though is Xtianity w/out a doubt.PonyBoy
    • incidentally, that statue was designed to be placed at the arkansas state capitol building after they put up a christian statuescarabin
    • http://fox59.com/201…scarabin
    • well, when/if the first muslim, satanic or local jewish charter school pops up, with government money going to them (Devos), let's see who's squirmingmonospaced
    • The heart of the problem is that Trump and Devos want to give PRIVATE charter schools government funds and not hold them to the same standards as publicmonospaced
    • So, they want to push the christian agenda further with government cash, ignore education standards, and probably continue living in fear of muslims.monospaced
    • its point is to highlight religious discrimination of the statescarabin
    • This isn't speculation, and it's not even subtle that that's what they're doing, so don't even bother trying to imply I'm exaggerating here.monospaced
    • My original point stands, let's watch hypocritical christians squirm and lose their shit when a satanic charter school starts operating on gov funds.monospaced
    • exactly!whatthefunk
    • can't argue w/you mono :) It will indeed be fun to watch Xtians trip-out in both fear and anger... and not see what absolute hypocrites they are in the processPonyBoy
    • Gov't funds means it's a public school. Period. Your argument is invalid. Charter means "charter of admission," which is not pvt.zarb0z
    • You are splitting hairs and moving goalposts for the One True Scotsman, all to make right what is, essentially, a misspelled meme.zarb0z
    • There is nothing wrong with a private religious school. The meme would make your argument if it said "public religious school." But it DOESN'T SAY THAT.zarb0z
    • apparently zarboz doesn't realize what the trump administration is planning to do with charter schools and funding!monospaced
    • yeah, if charters weren't about to take gov. funds, then maybe you'd have a point, but pay attention to the piece of shit Devos!monospaced
    • We want Private School Religion. Worship deans. Bond in boarding accommodation workshops. Sin. And take donations from rich parents.fruitsalad
    • mono is right about her motives: "There are not enough philanthropic dollars in America to fund what is currently the need in education...PonyBoy
    • ...Our desire is to confront the culture in ways that will continue to advance God's kingdom."PonyBoy
    • And do a little research before saying IT DOESN'T SAY THAT ... if they hadn't said that, this meme wouldn't even exist in the first place.monospaced
    • http://www.motherjon…PonyBoy
    • The meme says "SO YOU WANT PRIVATE RELIGIOUS SCHOOLS / OK GAME ON." Fine. So it DOES say "PRIVATE." Fine!zarb0z
    • yeah, but you're missing the message, which is that they want private schools with public funding ... that's what this is about, otherwise it would be stupidmonospaced
    • Fuck off with your conspiracy theories, mono. It says PRIVATE, which is exactly the same as me saying it does NOT say "public," so fuck the fuck off you fuck.zarb0z
    • if this was simply about wanting private religious schools, it would be meaningless, because there are already tons of those. sorry, but you're wrong, dudersmonospaced
    • You're interpreting too literally, and taking my comment out of context, which is the political clusterfuck that is a bible-thumper as secretary of edu.monospaced
    • Florida: Bill Filed to Insert Religion into Public Schools: House Bill 303 and it’s companion bill Senate Bill 436 http://bit.ly/2kHT6P…whatthefunk
    • Where were these satanic school when I was young? Damn I missed out :(pango
    • You satanists are such trolls
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    • which part of fighting religious discrimination in government-funded ventures is trolling?scarabin
    • This discussion is actually a little less trolly than I imagined it would turn out. Hoorah.robthelad
    • @zarb0z, LOL at telling me to fuck off, and calling me a fuck, when it's YOU who is 100% completely fucking wrong and missing the point. Made a fool of yourselfmonospaced
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  • drgs0

  • utopian2

  • i_monk3

    It’s Time to Start Calling Evangelicals What They Are: The American Taliban

    https://medium.com/@jcweatherby_…

  • utopian3

    Pope Francis says Islam and Christianity share an ‘idea of conquest’

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/n…

    • pope's checking the size of that mushroom cloudGnash
    • HIgh Sparrow?Morning_star
    • hehe—What's the guy doing being 'pope' if he's constantly shitting on his own religion? He's 'cool' to atheists/non-xtians but absolutely confusing to xtians.:)PonyBoy
    • hehe ... I see what you're saying, totally ... I just see the guy making an attempt at de-demonizing islammonospaced
    • if that cannabalistic, voodoo blood & flesh shit wasn't confusing enough, they still have to grapple with the whole holy trinity thing, which is a total mindfucmonospaced
    • Louis CK is getting olddbloc
    • why are you wanting to see islam de-demonized, mono? I thought you found religion to be ridiculous.PonyBoy
    • But i see you're cool hating on what you consider a 'mind fuck' w/your description of xtianity... could you be anymore of a fucking hypocrite?PonyBoy
    • *popcorn gif
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    • I think Islam is dumb as shit too. Just because I don't do it regularly doesn't mean I think it's better. All religion based on gods are a joke.monospaced
    • Oh and I'm not a hypocrite. Not sure you even know what that word means based on your use of it.monospaced
    • it was the perfect word to use to describe you based on your desire to de-demonize one religion while you openly shit on another... hypocrite. :)PonyBoy
    • No it isn't. I shit on both equally. Read what I wrote. I interpreted the pope as trying to stop demonization of Islam by comparing it to Christianity.monospaced
    • Fact is both religions are stupid as shit, neither is better or worse than the other, and anyone who adheres to either is a dumb ass sheep.monospaced
    • At the same time I don't think it's healthy to demonize Islam as some kind of evil religion compared to Christianity. That's just being fair. Opposite of hypocrmonospaced
  • utopian2

    Evidence against Jesus' existence

    http://www.cnn.com/2017/02/15/li…

  • scarabin22

    milkwalker knows all

    all hail milkwalker

  • Dillinger0

    • if it feels wrong because of white liberal guilt then it's wrong. Everything else goes._niko
    • Nice find, Dillinger... such simple logic. :)PonyBoy
  • Ianbolton0

    The way Harari breaks down religion and its future is genius. Not sure if it's completely correct, although he seems to have come to some great conclusions

    • Reading his first book 'Sapiens',
      very good - like what says
      Bluejam
    • nice, thanksApeRobot
    • great_niko
    • Started reading Homo Deus, SO GOOD
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  • ApeRobot0

  • i_monk1

    • ahah that's fucking awesome :Dsted
    • scarabin's neighborutopian
    • literally. he's waving at scarabin in the photo.pango
  • scarabin3

  • Miguex2

    oh this is gold...

    • great showmoldero
    • acting is way too polished. this is not real is it
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    • ok, violins...this is from a show
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