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- pango0
so what's the score here?
what's the conclusion?- not about score... conclusion. we are all slaves with no original thought of our own.yurimon
- name one original thought that didnt come from somewhere else.yurimon
- hun what?pango
- who's talking about original thoughts and slaves? Im just asking if you guys have come to a conclusion.pango
- you talking cray....pango
- is that what you're doing here? saying irrelevant things in a very confusing away hoping the other guy just don't even wanna bother respond?pango
- to respond?pango
- i said it not about score and conclusion is we all slaves. dont be cray crayyurimon
- lol wut?monospaced
- you are a slave mono..to your own ideas.. lolyurimon
- you're only a slave if you're imprisoned within dogma created thousands of years ago by people who didn't know shit. science frees us from ignorance.scarabin
- science frees us from ignorance.scarabin
- you still cant explain consciousness so who is free now. ever heard of scientific dictatorship my naive friend...
yurimon - your not free from dogmatic belief either.yurimon
- um, yes i am.scarabin
- please see post 727 of this thread an try againyurimon
- that's christian dogma, sir. are you arguing on my side now?scarabin
- ok.... tell me how am I a slave?pango
- Morning_star0
It's 3-2 to the anti-religiousists. However I don't think anyone really knows what game they're playing.
- how can you possibly say that when the religionists' (not a word?) only argument is "because god?"monospaced
- and to top off the religious ridiculousness, we're only talking about a single religion for the most part... that's how stupid this ismonospaced
- how stupid this ismonospaced
- its not only stupid, its cray crayyurimon
- Morning_star0
Ok. It's actually more like 6 - 2 to the religionists.
- all illusion is religion... even the illusion of science. even though its a method most of you believe in false science any whoyurimon
- say wut?moldero
- what in the actual fuck are you talking about?scarabin
- science is just figuring shit out instead of accepting things on blind faith. there's nothing false about it. it's the only reasonable course of action for understanding the universe.scarabin
- course of action for understanding the universe. there's no "illusion" involved. you either accept outdated ridiculous bullshit thousands of years old against all logic and reason or you use your human abilities of observation and logic and wake yourself up.scarabin
- bullshit thousands of years old against all logic and reason or you use your human abilities of observation and logic and wake yourself up.scarabin
- yourself up.scarabin
- in its pure ideal. but your not living in a scientific utopia.yurimon
- nobody said we lived in a utopia. but we have to try. religion is just giving up.scarabin
- moldero0
science is the pursuit of truth.
religion is a pursuit of meaning.- Note:
'The' vs. 'a'
:)detritus - its pursuing truth that already exists. science is like columbus finding america. shit was already thereyurimon
- Alot of the big scientists were trying to figure out old ancient vedic scripts and applying it to their work..yurimon
- and that not the definition of religion.. pursuit of truth is a balance of inner and outer understanding.yurimon
- without relationship of how things fit, its all the just parts you cant figure out.yurimon
- all truth already exists you foolmoldero
- < thats right. just needs to be discover for those who are not aware....yurimon
- loolscarabin
- dude yurimon, you literally just explained science as the pursuit of truth while trying to say it was wrong.monospaced
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- GeorgesIV0
honestly, can someone here give me a single example of something science has done in the last 200 years,
JUST ONE EXAMPLE!!
- its separated man from nature so man could easier to control..oh wait catholic church started thatyurimon
- i think science is going to finish the job..can you say borg...yurimon
- science didn't separate man from nature, it helped him understand it. man, you're living inside some kind of crazy movie. what's it even like inside there?scarabin
- even like being crazy?scarabin
- do you even see the same colors we do?scarabin
- LOLmonospaced
- science says man are just mammals. religion says men are better than most living things.pango
- "all dogs go to HELL" - godmoldero
- scarabin0
- boy. you really not that well studied.
you know what an allegory is?yurimon - when you sneeze?
x = ?
let me go pray to find the asnwermoldero - you know as well as i do the story of jesus wasn't meant as an allegory. the bible isn't rhetoric, it was presented as a historical documentation of events.scarabin
- documentation of events and has been accepted as such by blind idiots for thousands of years.scarabin
- your x= http://dictionary.re…yurimon
- Yes, there are many ideas regarding the intent. I think there are still mystical ideas in some texts..yurimon
- as there are ideas in other old texts worth understand without dogma.. however prob greek or hebrew is deeper languageyurimon
- i'm not being facetious, i'm just showing how stupid your argument is. big difference.scarabin
- to read in. because each letter, word has a number and multiple concepts attached.yurimon
- These are still the fucking fundamentals of Christianity: god, mass, praying, sin forgiveness, eden.monospaced
- language doesn't matter when the content is bullshit. again, with the dramatic mystical idiocy.scarabin
- not saying anything past that it has potential for expanding your consciousness if taken in it proper contextyurimon
- if this is an allegory, why the FUCK does anyone take it seriously? fuck, it really is so stupidmonospaced
- so does any other ancient text, story, etc... i feel modern world distorts it for its own purposes of keeping you ignorantyurimon
- so does sesame streetscarabin
- mono. you all know the benefit of keeping people ignorant and with ideas that create a higher archy of control..yurimon
- science does the same, institutionally speaking...yurimon
- well scarab. I question if you know what is real and what is not in same way i question if I know if.yurimon
- probably not. for starters, i question with good grammar and sentences that make sense.scarabin
- the analogy of consciousness, that an individual with 20 dpi consciousness cant see in 30 dpi. as metaphor.yurimon
- ...what?scarabin
- iPhonemonospaced
- science is trying to creat hierarchy?!?! O_O?pango
- boy. you really not that well studied.
- pango0
so the answer is "no conclusion yet"
is that so hard?- yes... the fact that people still think religous beliefs define reality, with no evidence whatsoever, is ridiculousmonospaced
- I mean, concluding that god exists because that's what you believe isn't a conclusion, it's just an assumptionmonospaced
- Evidence only points to the conclusion that god doesn't exist.monospaced
- Yet you can't completely rule out the fact that they COULD be rightlocustsloth
- only in the sense that you can't completely rule out a flying spaghetti monster or us all living on the back of a giant turtlescarabin
- that's no argument, though, and hardly any foundation to base one's life uponscarabin
- actually I wasn't asking about the content I was just asking about the argument... ...
nvm.....pango
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I just realized that there's people in QBN who actually believe in a god...SPAM ALERT!!!!
- fact is you cant prove or disprove whats on the other side so its pretty much evenyurimon
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SPAM ALERT!
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- omg ,that's some funny shitmonospaced
- too bad it's based on one's inability to understand the natural processes involved, and hunchesmonospaced
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- yurimon0
So j̶e̶s̶u̶s̶ Science is the truth and only way for salvation of mankind. Its the only way man could be free? well then h̶a̶l̶l̶e̶l̶u̶j̶a̶h̶ assimilate.
- GeorgesIV0
it's painful to see both camps trying to outsmart each other on who's the most well versed on each point of view,
every post is exactly the same bs that has been repeated before AD FUCKN NAUSEUM but somehow every 5 post it's all forgotten and can be repeated again,
yeah I get it religion is bad, science is good/science is bad, religion is good,
but for the love of God, Buddha, Vishnu, Zoroaster, Noodly can we fuckn move the discussion forward a bit, I'm sick of trolling this thread
- so quit clicking on itscarabin
- it's going nowhere because yuri is still operating a sunday school understanding of what science isscarabin
- no it's going nowhere because people can't accept that others have another point of viewGeorgesIV
- how can we have a religion thread but never actually discuss the fondation of it, everyone is doing a piss poor job at argumentation, it's 90% of the time, religion is bad, science is awesome, yet science isn't awesome, science is science and should be treated as such, same with religionGeorgesIV
- argumentation, it's 90% of the time, religion is bad, science is awesome, yet science isn't awesome, science is science and should be treated as such, same with religionGeorgesIV
- and should be treated as such, same with religion, the scientific doctrine could lead us to paradise but could also bring us back to the dark age, believe it or notGeorgesIV
- back to the dark age, believe it or not once a movement start putting dogmas it isn't long before it goes extremistGeorgesIV
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All you bitches is crazy
- moldero0
the flood covered the earth with water, was it fresh water? was it salt water? was it brackish water?
- it was WATER, GODDAMNIThereswhatidid
- Sugar water.
http://www.youtube.c…pango - <Krassy
- moldero0
according to the bible, the first rainbow was right after the flood, it was a sign of gods promise that he will never flood the earth again.
so did mist exist before the flood?
did waterfalls exist before the flood?
