Logo Design Contest
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- piperboytoy0
I do agree that some companies take advantage of designers. Having these contest is just an excuse to get lots of free ideas.
I would never enter a contest because of that reason. But I wouldn't discourage people to do it.
- iDp0
AMFA I agree with a lot of your points. But I think this is a bit different. If a potential client told me he was going to hire five designers to each design a logo. I wouldn't do it. Even if he were going to pay for the comp. I don't do comp work.
But I think this is more of a community thing and also to make sure that a member of this message board gets a good logo. Also, so that other people on this board get to critique different logos, its more for fun. I'd be in even if there were no money involved.
For me, designing is my number one priority, money is second. So I just see this as a healthy jam session if you will with others in the community.
- dippy0
"It just bugs me that this is one of the only fields that people work for free a lot, and because of it, people see all of us a commodity, not experts, and we all should strive to change that perception...."
I'll drink to that, bro.
- AMFA0
iDp
I dont mean to come off as some money first designer.
Design is my first priority as well., its just I dont like to see other designers getting taken advantage of.
We ARE worth something. We do good work, we should be compensated.
But I suppose that statement about not getting the best quality really bugged me. Just shows lack of respect.
And if youre doing work without being compensated, you at least better be getting repect. my 2cents.
- piperboytoy0
I agree with AMFA that contest cheapens our industry.
Graphic designers aren't considered real professionals because what we do is make pretty pictures. It is business people who cheapens our profession.
I don't know how many times a suit walked by my conputer and said "I wish I had your job"
- iDp0
yeah I totally agree. I guess I just see this as being different. I'm with you 100%.
I do pro bono work but only for causes that I feel close to and for people who respect what I do.
- kodap0
The greatest Gigs won by big companies mostly come from contests that involve huge projects, at least in my country that is. For the people who don't want to take any risks working on the field they like, its better to retire or change industry.
- SoulFly0
Just out of curiosity. Would the winner of this contest have to make revisions to the logo, or they take the cash prize and walk, like any other real contest?
- Hwa_Rang0
I agree, contest cheapen the industry. They do take advantage of designers.
9 times out of 10 people holding these contests have no idea what their brand is about so they think that if they go with bunch of designers they might stumble across it instead of looking at their own company first. Cause if you know what you want and what your company stands for you should be able to articulate that to a designer.
Also what guarnetee would we have to you would actually pay up?
Sitepoint holds these contest all the time I followed them for a bit entered a few, and I found that most times the person holding the contest never found what they were looking for and or it just dragged on for days until they felt like they had to pick one.
- Dr_Jay0
you need the contestants to sign an NDA...
will you sign a contract that says you WILL pay X dollars to one of the people who submits a design by X date?
- piperboytoy0
you enter at your own risk! Slinky is always on NT. But do we really know who he is?
- liquid0
AMFA.......dude I never got nausea from looking at blood.....but something with the blood in a bag just makes me get chills down my spine......
- SirLawrence0
what bothers me here is the contradicting terms and ambitions of this contest: you first have to prove you are worthy to enter this competition. This - in my view - touches on other people's issues here.
What I mean is that
- Yes; contests are a way for beginning and portfolio-building designers.
- No; you cannot use an excuse that "you want an assurance of quality" by pre-determining the participants of a competition. If you do, it is a pitch, not a competition. If it is a pitch, you invite designers who then know and accept it is a pitch project. Keep in mind that certain pitches are paid for.Big hand for the statement that we are professionals, experts. And not some hobbiests.
I'm not against competitions, if that is what it actually is. Contests are not graphic design only, they are done throughout industries.
Here however, what we have is some sort of open request to do a pitch. With the client doing a selection based on the expertise of the ones expressing their will to enter the pitch by submitting a portfolio.
Where it becomes confusing is when you start mentioning it is a community building event. It is not: call it for what it is: a pitch. For a job. For money. For possible follow up jobs.
A pitch, I say ;-)
- whoohaa0
from now on I'll do a contest for all my design work so you cunts can work for me for spare change
what a brilliant idea
oh preach
- SirLawrence0
now there is an idea... ;-)
I think I will join the ranks of the insulted.
And why should I not be? Since when do designers deliver jobs to their clients that do not meet the client's quality expectation? Why is it guaranteed to obtain quality by holding a contest between designers who can only enter based on their expertise, when it is the expertise that is questioned?
What insults me is to total lack of understanding of a design process here. The result of a portfolio is the result of a design process: a dialogue between client and designer. An outcome of a working relation, based on numerous factors.
If you are a chef you can only make a chocolate souffle when you have the ingredients. But you are able to make it, whether or not you have the ingredients at hand. Here you are asking for that perfect souffle while questioning the ability of those you ask to make it.
If quality is what you want; you commission a designer - likely based on their expertise and proven record. Then you get to work. Not just the designer, you too. The quality is the result of it. The lack of quality is the lack of process from either one. You can pick from the best portfolio and best designer pool, and still end up with crap. Holding a contest to avoid it is just gambling to see something you like visually, and disregard any process.
If you do out of love for community building: make it a vapor project, drop your prize money thing, make it an open contest, and let everybody play judge.
- nayades0
The greatest Gigs won by big companies mostly come from contests that involve huge projects, at least in my country that is. For the people who don't want to take any risks working on the field they like, its better to retire or change industry.
kodap
(Feb 5 05, 16:33)
--------------------that's true. but those big-huge contests usually pay some $$$ even if you're not teh winner.
last invitational contest, in which the studio i work at was invited to, had a prize of $14.000. six design studios were invited. every studio received $1000 for the time taken.that's how those contests usually work.
- lara0
well let's be honest, you submit work for a contest, because you are interested in getting an award of high reputation.
This here is called a PITCH!
that's all.
- zerofour0
Hi guys,
I think is no harm trying contest but we alway need to read the rules,terms and condition before enter. I got an bad time once which is a under a well known "Federation" which held this 1.5k logo redesign contest and it was an internal contest so i happens to be the selected work and got into the final. They got quiet for a few weeks after awhile when i email them ask them for update they told me their boss don't like the design and that cause no winner even my work got into the final so from that day on I will not take contest that is not open to public and do hope others know about this :)
- nosaj0
Well said SirLawrence.
- AMFA0
Thank you SirLawrence.
Can I get an Amen.
////bloodbag comment:
haha... i used foodcoloring, but had to use my mouth to hold the bag closed and I had red teeth for a week.....