Dutch Muslim school hit by bomb
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- vespa0
Dutchboy, i know what you mean, but this issue is politics! but lets remember to keep discussions calm, you're right.
- ********0
god i hate liberals ;)
- k0na_an0k0
speaking of skinheads.
when i grow my hair like the stereotypical designer, the styled mess look, i get fucked with at bars, clubs, wherever by whomever ya know.
i cut my hair short a time or two durning the year, mostly in the summer, and all that stops and i find people treat me very different in restaurants, bars and such. weird. i'm the same guy and all.
like last night. i was out at a bar shooting pool and had a couple hispanic guys start a little trouble. i had to explain to them it was just a hair cut. i guess in this day and age everyone suffers from shit like that. muslims, americans, guys who cut their hair really short. it's an ignorance that usually leads to bad things. sucks.
carry on.
- DutchBoy0
yeah, it's all about the deteriorating of tolerance. really sad, k0na.
i once had my head bald, when i was in France with a tv-crew and it was extremely hot, so one of the guys helped me shave it..
when i came home my grandfather treated me different and told me a looked like a racist.. :/
same goes for muslims, as soon as some girl is spotted wearing things that are connected to their religion they are looked upon differently.
but all that is to be judged or can be criticized is what people carry in their head, what intentions they have, hate or love etc.
not physical appearance.
- ********0
The spiral:
The Ottoman Empire collapses and the British and Americans move in
Franklin Roosevelt finds a bunch of hardcore ultraorthodox (therefore anti-communist) desert dwellers and makes them dictators in Saudia Arabia (and other Middle Eastern countries) to guard his precious oil supplie.
The US and the British conspire to give Palestine to European Jews
Middle Eastern's get pissed off at their fate following the collapse of Ottoman Empire and blame their loss of faith. Bunch become all hardcore and radicalised and fanatical and shit
US takes these fanatics and gets them to fight its proxy wars against Communism. Therefore turning them into warriors and fighters
Fanatics realise they are stooges whose countries continue to get fucked over and turn against the US and the West
US declares war on terror and starts giving all this crap on "clash of civilisation" "freedom and enlightenment" etc... Makes everyone hate Muslims, especially in Europe who are already neurotic about the wave of immigrants flooding in
Fanatics seize on this to precipitate their global war against the west.
The west go paranoid and feel like they need to defend their culture against the "barbarians" of the middle east. Think it's about time the Muslims were told "you guys are fucked up, your religion is fucked up, and we're gonna write books and make films about how and why you are fucked up... in fact, we're gonna flood the media with this shit"
Muslims start feeling insecure and scared. Start to actually feel under attack, and think the fanatics have a point
White people start making films about muslims. Muslims all like "there! you see! they're obsessed with us! Why are THEY making films about US?? What if WE made a film about Jews, who also have orthodox elements, and in fact have a patriachal/women as second class citizens type society which is actually spelt out in their holy texts?"
Fat Dutch guy gets murdered. White man is all like "ah ha! see, can't deal with those fucking muslims. There's all this crime these days. It's cos we got all these immigants. Prolly cos they muslim". Start bombing schools
Muslims more paranoid
Makes the white man more paranoid
Makes muslims more paranoid....
So you see, all the United States' fault.
- plastipop0
people hate. it has nothing to do with the U.S. explain what's happening in france? http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2…
iraq?: http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2…
in the sudan?: http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2…
- DutchBoy0
*sigh*
kuz, see what you just did?
do NOT start that debate again.
PLEASE!!!!!!!!!
- ********0
lol
right you are janne
- plastipop0
First of all Muslims shouldn't be hated by anyone. But unfortunately, Islam is anything but peaceful. The watered-down, "very similar to christianity" version being sold in the U.S. and parts of Europe is really just a way to make the religion more palletable and seem more acceptable to average folks.
Here are just a few of the "peaceful" dealings of Islam going on around the world right now. (you won't see these on CNN or the BBC)...
SAUDI ARABIA: Indian Christian, Brian O'Connor, arrested and tortured in a mosque on March 4th, was released from custody November 1st and returned to Bombay. He was jailed and charged with selling alcohol and possessing Bibles and pornography. False charges like this are typical when authorities do not want to admit their zero-tolerance policy toward other religions.
NIGERIA: Representatives of the Christian Association of Nigeria (CAN) in the central state of Plateau have called on the Nigerian government to bring an end to emergency rule imposed on the state six months ago and to restore all democratic structures. Emergency rule is slated to continue through November. However, CAN believes agitation by Muslim leadership aims to extend the state of emergency. Christian leaders told President Obasanjo that they fully support the establishment of a proposed Plateau State government Truth and Reconciliation Commission. A government report disclosed that 53,787 persons have been killed during the three-year crisis that has pitched Muslims against Christians in the state. Over 200,000 households have been displaced and 25,000 homes destroyed.
also in NIGERIA: In October, a Shariah court sentenced a young, unmarried Muslim woman to death for becoming pregnant. Hajara Ibrahim from Bauchi State had confessed to having had a physical relationship with a man named Dauda Sani, whom she claims had promised to marry her, according to a report from Christian Solidarity Worldwide. Mr. Sani denied this; and since Ms. Ibrahim did not have four male witnesses to support her contentions, he was acquitted due to lack of evidence. Ms. Ibrahim was released into the custody of her family pending the birth of her child. The legal charge of fornication would be punishable by flogging.
INDONESIA: On October 21st, unidentified drive-by snipers shot and injured Hans Sanipi, a 25-year-old Christian. Sanipi was speaking with several other people in front of the church when two men on a motorbike passed and shot randomly into the crowd. Christians and Muslims alike are speculating why police have not yet found the mysterious "drive-by" killers who have murdered at least five Christians and injured 11 others since April 2004. Meanwhile, Muslim youths attacked pig farms owned by Christians on October 20th, claiming the smell of pigs was offensive, "especially during Ramadan."
- stewart0
Honk for Peace!
Honk for Peace!
- stewardez0
Let's stay all in bed for peace the next days! And invite a bunch of journalists! And grow our hair, and sing songs with an acoustic gitar
- stewart0
yeah! Hump for Peace
(NSFW!!)and: anyone listened to the new Yoko Ono cd yet?
- DutchBoy0
haha, the stewards make little dutchboy smile.
- stewardez0
that's a lotta hair for 2004!
- stewart0
that's a lotta hair for 2004!
stewardez
(nov 10 04, 12:11)-------------------
Pro-Bush had another meaning that time.
- whoohaa0
hahahaha, dutchboy you make me laugh, do you really think I care if you put me on ignore or not? I couldn't give a fuck mate, I just couldn't.
now
First of I have muslims friends, all bad muslims but good persons. They don't pray 5 times a day, they don't follow the islam as they say themselves it's a hate manual. They drink alcohol, eat porc.
Bad muslims or infidels as a good muslim would call them. They are muslims not by religion but by culture.
A big difference.They would snitch on a muslim who would plan to blow shit up. Those are the muslims who we need but unfortunately most of them cover the terrorists of fear of reprisals or they silently support violence towards infidels or they straight don't give a fuck.
Now go grab the real quran, the one the fundamentalist preach from. Read that shit, report back right quick and tell me islam is a preaceful religion.
Oh calling me a racist is fucking hillarious, really get a clue. Bitch you don't know who the fuck I am or who my friends are.
Think hard mate or go back glued to your idiot box.
as you fucking weren't
- rabattski0
yesterday's news made the headlines in the newspapers here today. that's very rare that that happens. unfortunately with such a bad event.
anyways "speaking of skinheads" most people tend to forget that real skinheads aren't political / have nothing to do with politics at all. these days they are referred to as traditional skinheads.
it's odd to see though that the rightwinged skinheads have no clue whatsoever that the roots of skinhead culture lies mainly in the black culture. then again, they have nothing to do with being skinhead except having a bald head.
which actually points out an interesting thing in this thread that it's ok here to generalize skinheads but not ok to generalize muslims.
and that is just an observation before you think anything about it.