Going to Iraq
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- helloperson0
"say that your gay"
... I love how America's f**ked up backwards policies got us into this war, and could potentially get you out.
But just a question, are you going to return all of that money the government gave you for schooling if you don't go? It seems pretty unfair to take all of the benifits of the reserveres and leave behind all the actual work.
- vespa0
don't go. and convince anyone else you know not to go.
it's an unjust war - you weren't to know that when you signed up. you wanted to defend your country, not invade others' for dubious causes.
- Mimio0
Vespa, I think anyone who's entered military service since Vietnam has known that dubious causes are par for the course.
- bomy_dick0
i can't belive some people here say : 'do what a guy must do : go at war' or something like that..
is Bushmania driving you insane ?
there is no right reason for going in a war that was done on lies and money interests..say you're gay.. so is that the last way in your country to avoid army ?
very flattering for the Gay community...i'd choose self mutilation ...
- atomica0
"atomica's tune would change if they reinstated the draft"
Ummm, not by much. But when you sign up for something, especially something as demanding as the military reserves (even though you may think otherwise) it is your duty to stand by that. I don't care who is in power during what term and whats going on. It's your duty. You agreed have some honor in your word. And realize it's for a good cause.
- zedvox0
...and what is this good cause?????
- shaft0
afair the US is one of very few countries where joining the army is not compulsory. Did you guys freely choose to do it some time ago? Is that a case of being grown up a bit more now and having realized that military service means nothing but selling your ass cheap? Or you'd go to a war, just not this one? In countries like mine, where anyone can be conscripted it seems like it is bolder to avoid the army than to go there. Joining it is so passive, they'll come for you eventually if you do nothing. You must take action to avoid it here and it's not easy. It is really fair in the US, it's business: you decide to become a soldier and get paid. Not that there is much freedom in the US, but professional army based on volunteers actually means freedom most of the world could envy.
- k0na_an0k0
dude. you are a pussy. you signed up to protect and serve your country so f*cking do it you unpatriotic dodging prick.
- zedvox0
ugh..ouch its that word again.....unpatriotic ...ouch ouch ouch
- bomy_dick0
wow...
easy Kona.. easy boy...there'll be some more US blood, don't you worry.. either him or your neighbour, who cares ?
- dstlb0
Does failing to sign-up also make you a unpatriotic dodging prick?
- k0na_an0k0
it's the same as signing up to be a cop or a firefighter. you can't puss out when duty calls. it's an oath you take.
my friend was killed in the line of duty and i was hurt yes, but also incredibly proud. he pulled a guy over for doing 10+ and the guy didn't want a ticket and shot him as he approached the car. just as senseless as iraq but that's part of the job description.
- bomy_dick0
hehe : dstlb : 1 point..
- k0na_an0k0
does not siging up to be a cop or firefighter mean something too? or an astronaut or a fucking janitor?
i choose not to sign, he signed. it's the paths we chose.
- ********0
first off, I'm not so sure I even believe you, but ok let's say you are a reservist. You signed up, so deal with it. No country will ever have individuals that see eye to eye on matters. I also don't think there will be action in Iraq until 2031 and no not all jobs are frontline jobs, because a girlfriend of mine has a brother that is in communication and it's far from the action and he just went. Just be lucky that the draft isn't in place. A lot of countries military service is compulsory. :)
- vespa0
well yeah mimio, i could never do it but at the same time i am aware that we do need to have competent defences.
However, I do not believe this war is about defence - it is an invasion. I don't think everyone who signed up knew they were signing up to invade.
- ********0
then only sign up for defense vespa? not invasion?
- Anarchitect0
oi k0na [nice screenname btw], do you actually think that 130.000 soldiers stationed in Iraq signed up to because of their 'patriotism'.
Most of them did it only because of the money.
A patriot is a blind idiot. Your country's new, it will take some time for you to understand what 'follow the leader' really means.
- ********0
weren't you reaping the benefits of the money you received towards college and the extra cash before you were sent over? weekend warrior style?
- k0na_an0k0
what $ is there in the military. from what i understand it's dick. i'd rather churn burgers at mcd's then make what they make to go through what they do.
lets find a salary sheet on what they make and if it's not dick i'll be surprised. what? for college tuition? serve 4 years first then go to college, and by that time statistically a majority do not ever attend.
and btw the definition of a patriot is...
patriot
n : one who loves and defends his or her country
not a blind idiot.