"Under God"
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- Mr_Jump0
"Country", thats soooo 20th century...
- BonSeff0
dont pledge.
but remember why this country was founded; by people that wanted to practice religion.
kinda wacky
- unfittoprint0
GOD is soooooo 2000 years ago...
"One Nation under WWW".
______________ now that's nice!
- woodyBatts0
Not only that but the Puritans were deemed a dangerous cult that threatened the political stability in England.
...hmmmmm
- tymeframe0
nice one unfit.
zeroblade has a point about our currency.
"In God WE Trust" !?!
- Mr_Jump0
I'm wit' unfit - he's well fit
- GreedoLives0
this country was founded by god-fearing white males. women, slaves, indentured servants, free blacks, and native americans were not considered persons. Originally, you had to own a certain amount of land to even be able to vote. You had to own even more land to be able to run for governor.
So of course there's lots of religious references, but somehow those white males put together a remarkable document in the Constitution that allowed the people of this country to give themselves the rights they wanted and felt they deserved.
Take this court case as just another step in the secularization of the country. Religious flag wavers hate it when you use the constitution against them.
- CyBrainX0
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.
Case closed.
And get that "In God We Trust" off our money too.
The pledge of allegiance in my opinion IS the establishment of a new religion. It has all the symptoms of religion: forcing people to to do something, working the minds of the young, and blindly placing importance on soemthing, in this case a piece of cloth.
What a disgusting and insulting waste of time.
- jevad0
WORD
- Lop0
take away religion and you'll have peace
religion has always been a disease for mankind, too many wars have been fought for it and too many people have been enslaved by it
and still today nothing changed
- Mr_Jump0
Thats so stupid. Can't just blame everythin on religion. What about states? more wars been fought over counties and territory. Differences m-man. Wot it's about.
- Mr_Jump0
And geo-politics. Thats what wars of today are fought...
- Soler0
MR_Jump:
And what are states based on hmmmm. Religion!I think we all grew up (U.S. only) saying the pledge in school.
We aren't so stupid as to be brainwashed and just believe it. I said it as part of a routine, I could of cared less about the content of what I was saying. I just cared about recess.It didn't keep me from not believing in any religion. Actually I think it didn't do shit for me. Just leave it alone, kids can say it if they want.
the one thing I liked about it is that the class was quiet for a second. i think teachers appreciate that too
- Mr_Jump0
What u on about Soler? States aren't based on religion... apart from ur freaky country.... and Israel... and Pakistan.... and umm.... thats it.... so there.
- Mr_Jump0
actually scratch that. none of those countries are BASED on religion either. There are none. States are territories where different factions (relgious and secular) struggle for control in a nexus of power. so there (again)
- Soler0
what about umm... the middle east, india, asia
- Mr_Jump0
What about em?
- Soler0
Hmmm.. so you wouldn't say that pakistan and India are Muslim/Hindi rivals. Sure, not EVERYONE in a state is one religion, but it is the base of most of them.
Saudi Arabia has the Koran as the constitution. Iran claims to be an Islamic-Republic
France is completely secular. Once again involving religion
- Lop0
different beliefs creates conflicts
that's what religion provokes
people are killing in the name of god
ask bush, ask bin laden, ask the tribes in congo, ask the people in tschechia, etc, they all kill for their religion first and foremost
religion is the the roots of all evil
- Soler0
I do see your point, very few countries actually claim to be Baptist, or whatever rteligion.
BUT, to say it isn't the foundation and the driving force is just not true. the wars were and are fought over land, but why would people want to be seperate from each other in the 1st place. cos they are different culturally, demographically, and Religiously. or else they wouldn't be so picky about the land