drawing bad on purpose
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- dopepope0
A book of random bad art is in order. Real bad. Not good bad.
There's a haircutting place near by that has a drawing of a womans profile in the window that is just so bad...I marvel at it. I'd like to capture many more examples and compile a book.
- zeroblade0
nice list crapMr.
didn't know starck said that. and i was gonna showcase him in my upcoming presentation too... cool quote to have.
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back to the main line... there's good shit and there's bad shit. shit sometimes sells. just check out ebay.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI…
On a positive note, the more bad shit there is, the better the real deal looks yeah? It's a fad. It will definitely (maybe) pass.
- fugged0
http://maddox.xmission.com/irule…
That's some funny shit.
- LucidPhoenix0
I agree. Here's the thing, everyone defends it and calls it a "style" ok fine then show me some traditional drawings/illustrations........no... They can't. I think traditional art is going to hell. Skill is going way down and as thought by many we are in another dark age awaiting another renaissance (I hope). Of course the current focus and everyone's wet dream seems to be Barney now and I just say fuck that. I believe it's discouraging. Now there are some very valid psychological deep thoughts there but I don't think it's what we need now. I think it's just a poor excuse for talent. NO. I'm not saying Barney is untalented lol, I'm just saying people are hiding behind his beliefs (and beliefs of others, not just him). I wonder what his opinion on this would be...However there is crap. I think he would agree along with anyone else. The only people who would defend these bad drawings are those who have no talent or even dare I go so far as to say CARE for art. Of course it could just be people becoming lazy and unappreciate for things because as we all know nothing in today's world is sacred...Anyway, according to those with the new "movement" or one movement anyway, a drawing is just a representation not a presentation therefore it is ultimately wrong and not only fails but "destroys" the original. So why try to make it "realistic" when it can never be anyway. BULLSHIT!!! I think that's being used the wrong way and that's by the intelligent people. Most people who are responsible for these bad drawings can't even figure out what the hell I was just talking about. Of course I may not have been 100% accurate and I didn't cover everything but I think for breverity you understand. I hope you all do and this is a good point. YES art is dead/dying. What next? Lawyers for artists?
- voxpoet0
what do I think?
i would say that the thought to become more like a child is admirable. picasso did do things in reverse, in a way but if you read his biography or have read any interviews or journals you know that it had definate purpose and intention when he was exploring. I fail to see a great deal of thought or intention in much of the work.. except for maybe the "outsider art brute" work that is very popular (enough so that a magazine chronicles it's monthly gallery showings.
So, my 2¢ is that it has it's merits... but if you do it beprepared to defend your POV.
Cheers!
- peteski0
If you got the chops, you can draw anyway you want. Its hard to draw badly on purpose. Hard to get it right anyway. If you establish a style, "bad on purpose", whatever, within your talents and explore it thoroughly, you will learn about what works (and about yourself), and what doesn't.
Fact: Anybody can learn to draw.
- peteski0
and , if you hadn't noticed ...
crap is king
- vespa0
"I think traditional art is going to hell. Skill is going way down"
By traditional art and skills I guess you mean realism, renaissance style, as biofeldt pointed out.
Aren't we beyond that as an artistic aspiration now? I mean, we have cameras and 3d scanning and powerful computers to make things look "real", if required.
So shouldn't art be examining the way we feel about things? In this context, "bad" drawing skills aren't bad anymore if they can communicate an idea or emotion that moves us.
And that is why Expoding Dog rocks.
- Blofeldt0
Thanks Vespa.
How can you not see the link with Picasso? You accept Picasso, Cézanne hell, even Sagmeister because they're the establishment, you've been told they're good. You're not thinking for yourselves. They did and are doing what you term bad drawing.
The only bad thing about the style you mention is that you don't like it. It gets up your nose because you think it's easy and you're busting you guts to do something you consider better.
Well whoopee fucking doo! It's called snobbery. You're looking down on it. You think your great taste and skills are being overlooked by something you consider crap. You are conditioned!Bodega, you have to have gone to the worst art school on earth not to be taught how to identify and challenge your personal artistic ideology which has and still is being shaped by renaissance thinking. What about African art. Is that crap because it's not drawn very well? And if people are drawing 'badly' on purpose they they are obviously trying to communicate something that they feel cannot be reached through a more traditional and accepted way. They are rebelling and your mind can't handle. You are being a defensive reactionary.
Your argument is unconsidered, ill thought out and total bollocks.
- vespa0
"how to identify and challenge your personal artistic ideology which has and still is being shaped by renaissance thinking"
nice one biofeldt - but it's easy to forget all this a couple of years after art school. I try to rediscover it by constantly doing my own study and going to galleries and generally searching for creative satisfaction.
Otherwise the "industry" can brainwash you into thinking that commercially viable = valid. We get addicted to high production values. (I've found that especially with music.)
- tank0
insert your famous designer quote here...
- Blofeldt0
ha ha, nice one tank. Mmmm i don't know any.
how about
"do i not like that?"
Graham Taylor
- crapmeister0
and , if you hadn't noticed ...
crap is king
peteski
(oct 09 03)
- Wolfboy0
Come on, the drawings of David Shrigley friggin rule.
Wise old Owl, Thick as Shit
- tank0
content is king.blah!
- surfito0
concept vs look
- crapmeister0
good versus evil
- ********0
one man's style is another man's hatred.
Confucious say ....
- grafiske0
There is a ton of art I don't like, and occasionally when I have to much time on my hands, I complain about how bad I think it is. But I would rather be busy making my own art. Boredom is a doozy.