G5 ~vs~ DELL precision 650 workstations
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- benfal990
Forgot to say .. with that get an Intel MB and get an Asus GeForce4 Ti4200 128Mo or the last FX and man I promise you will kill any G5 out there. For a way less money than G$5
- frankbb0
I've got one of these..
http://www.cray.com/products/sys…
I've got a bomb proof basement and a shiny floor!!
i know i'm going to get flagged for this :(
- kpl0
you talking about apple turning off hyperthreading in the intel tests? they did so because it gave better test scores. Intel does the same thing.
what we have here are a bunch of overeager idiots getting riled up and suspicious trying to read between the lines and not knowing wtf they're talking about.
- unknown0
any mac that i've used that has been a year or so old... has been slow... slow to even open a browser window... whereas my pc that i've had for three years now is much quicker... perhaps macs have caught up? but I find them painful...
and get rid of those bloody imac they are useless
- kpl0
and get rid of those bloody celerons they are useless
- Mimio0
Someone should get to the bottom of why people insist on arguing about Apple and PC computers.
- kpl0
mimio, the reason is rather clear. if pc users didn't have the collective IQ of a beanie baby then I wouldn't have to swoop in and discredit their rhetoric.
- kpl0
(oh hell. lets make this a real flame war.)
- georgietexan0
I just wanted some help in finding what the best deal for my bucks. I don't need super duper fast computer ( but I would like one) if one is faster by a few kilo flops I could give a rats ass. I have a MAC now but I want to just video edit, AE stuff and create DVDs for mass use.
So if Adobe makes Ancore/AE/Premire would a PC be a good deal? or hooking up the new G5 to a G4(render farm) and using FCP/AE/Studiopro be a better deal.
I want the finished product to be made to a DVD then given to a Dub company like "diskmakers" to be mass produced. that my plan
- unknown0
Someone told me that only gays uses apple and only geeks uses PC. It suck being a nerdy faggot.
- Woolhouse0
I'd get this sucker:
http://store.apple.com/1-800-MY-…
It's got all the bels and whistles + the processing speed you'll need for what you want to do.
- jpea0
man, all this guy wants is help in deciding on a computer to best fit his needs... geez, get to the point.
-for vid editing, "for the most part" you'll find the same things on both platforms = various video editing and layout apps that help you get your job done, you obviously won't get FCP of your windows box and you won't get vegas or premiere on your mac. AE you WILL find on both platforms and basically functions the same on both platforms - adobe built it this way on purpose.. but, shhh... don't tell anyone on this forum cause it might breakup a fight or something.
-someone mentioned an external firewire hard drive. if you're getting a tower anyway, DON'T get an external drive. The speed of the firewire bus may be fast and all but a hard drive's speed itself is the largest limiting factor. Get a fast hard drive to put IN your tower.
-on mac's, a dual processor system is used throughout the OS, basically meaning that ALL apps will benefit from both of them. On a windows machine, a dual proc system is used by "part" of the OS and basically only apps that are optimized for a dual proc system will use both at or near their full potential. I'm not sure if AE is optimized for dual's on a pc, but i'm guessing that it is (as well as many 3d programs generally).
-if you're going to go with a pc, it's generally cheaper to build it yourself anyway so don't even bother with dell. Cheap OEM parts=cheap machine. They have to make a profit obviously so they're not doing you a favor or anything to build you one;-)
-basically, just think about your best workflow and go from there. If you use FCP then get a mac, if you need a ton of DVD authoring choices, get a windows box, etc.. you see where i'm going with this..
good luck!
- benfal990
... if the look is soooooooooooo important buy this ''sucker'' :
http://www.alienware.com/worksta…
*!*
- unknown0
You can what you want with either one. Since you are used to a Mac, then I'd say buy a Mac.
As an aside, I responded to an ad for a contract Flash developer job The dumbasses would only hire someone with Mac OSX. WTF??? I use a PC. It makes no difference, output is output. Idiots. I am sure they'll hire someone with .27 of my Kung Fu.
- georgietexan0
Jpea.. your the man thanks.
I like to points you made lots of help thanks.
As for HD space I know the new G5 has two spaces for hard drives but I need more them 500 or 600 gb of space. I have like a ton of shows look here to see what I mean http://www.punkrockvideos.com I plan to make DVDs soon and need a good system to copy video off my hard drive to a DVD-r but that's a whole other issue that I hope to make do able with a new system
- SaintWalker0
You know it also depends on what software you prefer to use...personally I think Premier is a joke...AE is obviously rad...and as far as DV authoring...I have used DVD Studio Pro 1.5 extensively...I maxed out the number of allowed tracks on a DVD with it...1.5 was ALRIGHT, but id did have some shortcomings as far as interface design goes...it still did EVERYTHING that the DVD spec allows for though...DVDSP 2 looks faaaar more promissing. Anyway, my point is that I have authored a DVD that was sent out to the masses called North (canadian skateboarding video)....it was sent out worlwide. I did this on my lowly dual 500 G4 with DVD Studio Pro 1.5 ...and it worked perfectly. So there you go...you actually dont NEED either of these computers...I COULD infact have just as easily authored that DVD on an iMac.
I think everyone is getting waaay too ahead of themselves here...he just wants to edit video and author DVDs. Not start a million dollar production facility.
- unknown0
you mean Encore
well adobe's integration between their apps are tight as a virgin
PC is always a good deal
less money more powerful
mac is all hype anyway
it's like a cute shorty with no brain, you bang her once or twice and that's it
kpl you herb did you drink your breakfast? you drunk punk
- SaintWalker0
jpea,
Premier actually is available for Macs and has been around on Macs longer than on PCs. I think it is the most comonly used PC editor though.
As for the external HD, there are many external FireWire HDs that are 7200rpm...which is mighty fast enough for video. That DVD project that I did (North) was actually on a Lacie 120GB FW HD. Now with FW 800 it would be even faster I imagine.
Another thing to consider...stability. When you're working on a huge video project you don't want shit to crash every 10 minutes......I'd stay the fuck away from Windows and OS 9.x if I were you.
I think that's all the advice I have to dish. Good luck on your decision.
- kpl0
beat it, scrub.
- jpea0
georgietexan, awesome concept for your own site.. i still remember going to a D4 show a ton of years back in minneapolis in some dude's basement... weird setting, but i was like 13 or something i think!