FUCK ADOBE!

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  • nb1

    Just please keep in mind that Adobe is privately planning to make ALL YOUR FILES inaccessible in the future unless you pay whatever fees they want to charge.

    This is the business value of Adobe Creative Cloud. It’s not to sell you convenience, it is designed so that Adobe will own the rights to the access of whatever you create on their platform.

    It’s your fault if you fall for it. I wouldn’t use Adobe for anything that I care about long-term. For dumb client work or my employer, who cares. But for my own work, I’m trying to stay the fuck away from Adobe.

    Sadly, I use a plug-in that requires Lightroom so for now I’m stuck there. But at least photographs, once complete, can live off the platform forever.

    • Source: I know PMs at Adobenb
    • all your files are already inaccessible unless you pay for CC currently. it's only a surprise to anyone who has been blindly walking in to it for a decadekingsteven
    • PS allows local file saving, right? You can use an old version of PS, right? I'm talking about the future state where there are no local files.nb
    • Figma did this. Designers love Figma but Figma has provided a free tier, forever. One of the reasons why everyone is so mad about Adobe buying Figmanb
    • It's one thing to sign up to a cloud service and accept the terms upfront, IS QUITE ANOTHER to retroactively lose access to legacy files going back decades!grafician
    • ah, to be young againkingsteven
    • I never save anything in CC, always local. This post doesn't make any sense.formed
    • Eventually they will not allow you to save a local file. That’s the point.nb
    • I'm just going to focus on trading for the next 10 years, rather than a design 'career'. If I focus on design, i'll end up penniless competing with AI.shapesalad
    • trying real hard to make something sound dystopian. don't use adobe because you won't be able to access your files, use software that wont exist in 20 yearskingsteven
    • unless it gets bought by adobe. i spent a day setting up a win 98 install to open a cakewalk 5 session last week. there is no absolution from obsoletionkingsteven
    • it's funny imagining myself in 40 years talking to the wind, coercing a pervasive A.I. to create an A2 hologram of a gig poster i designed in 2008kingsteven
    • i worked as a flash developer for a decade, i might as well put "2004 - 2014 Cared for a dying relative" on my CV, you've just got to let these things gokingsteven
    • I don't believe Adobe will prevent you from saving locally.CyBrainX
    • Hahahahaaha bookmark this thread Cybrain! Mark my wordsnb
    • "...not allow you to save a local file"... so that's it then - no more PSD, AI, INDD... it'll all be .Cloud files, no sharing, collab'ing or saving your files?prophetone
    • Good luck retaining your already-taxed CC user base b/c that model succeeds only if everyone in design industry gets on board, works in CC cloud onlyprophetone
    • ...and w/ all eggs in the cloud server basket: benefits of local high spec machine diminished, network lag issues, files exposed = no privacy, hacks, bugs, fun!prophetone
    • "ClientFlyer-V1-fina... cannot be opened at this time due to unusually high traffic volume, network issues. Please try again later."prophetone
    • Where is this "no longer able to save locally"? That sounds absurd to me. Most software requires a license to connect these days, but that has nothing to doformed
    • with the files themselves. Autodesk does this and is far, far more restrictive (now they are truly absurd and 1000x the cost).formed
    • it's nonsense, he even gives figma as an example which i think is a great way of doing things and has a local save option in the feckin file menu.kingsteven
    • tbh all my work is in Adobe cloud or Dropbox for 10 years and I've been paying ~1k a year to adobe since 2004. I can't open anything without the softwarekingsteven
    • so what does it matter as long as i can archive it locallykingsteven
    • Adobe did it cuz Autodesk did itgrafician
    • Everything is subscription now. We can't escape it. Hell, even Apple wants you to lease their phones.formed

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