Freedom Convoy
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- Salarrue3
The “Freedom Convoy” has been marketed as a backlash by truckers angry about Covid-19 vaccination mandates. In reality, there don’t seem to have been many truckers among the protesters at the bridge (about 90 percent of Canadian truckers are vaccinated). Last week a Bloomberg reporter saw only three semis among the vehicles blocking the Ambassador Bridge, which were mainly pickup trucks and private cars; photos taken Saturday also show very few commercial trucks.
The Teamsters union, which represents many truckers on both sides of the border, has denounced the blockade.
So this isn’t a grass-roots trucker uprising. It’s more like a slow-motion Jan. 6, a disruption caused by a relatively small number of activists, many of them right-wing extremists. At their peak, the demonstrations in Ottawa reportedly involved only around 8,000 people, while numbers at other locations have been much smaller.
- yuekit5
Just throwing this crazy idea out there...most governments of the world don't actually want mandates, lockdowns and travel bans. They are economically costly and politically unpopular after all.
Most governments were forced into it because we just lived through a once in a century pandemic that killed 6 million people (probably more like 10 million in reality).
Now that the pandemic seems to be receding, most governments are ending restrictions...not because a bunch of truckers held a protest but because it makes sense in terms of public health.
And ironically this is happening largely because of the thing the truckers are protesting against...because the vaccines created enough immunity that the virus is no longer as much of a threat to most people.
- if that's the case why is JT doubling down when other provinces are opening up?hotroddy
- because it's ego, power and ideology. 'The Gov't knows what is best'. Allowing for more beauracracy and big gov't.hotroddy
- I'm not saying every decision is perfect, but it's a crisis situation. For the most part the measures were justified IMO.yuekit
- And when you look at some of the actual oppressive governments that exist in the world, the whole thing seems like an extreme case of "first world problems."yuekit
- I think that's def the case in the UK. Govmnt proposed and then backed away from mandates on various (vaccine hesitant) groups.Fax_Benson
- without ever being 100% serious about imposing them. If you see vaccines as the way out of the pandemic, seems a sensible tacticFax_Benson
- Governments don't usually like to give up their new powers. How many emergency terrors laws brought in after 2001 do we still have?Chimp
- how many restrictions from Spanish flu epidemic are still around?pango
- it's called 'influenza' you racist cunt. :)hotroddy
- lol yes. only reason i called it Spanish flu cuz i wasn't sure if you guys understand what i meant.pango
- I guess it was avian flu or H1N1 if you want to be exact. But yeah, there are zero restrictions left from le Spanish flu.yuekit
- Here in Colorado they just ended the requirement that you need to wear a mask inside stores and restaurants. No mass protest or anything was required.yuekit
- How's things going in Austria?Chimp
- the vaccine doesn't prevent you from getting it, doesn't prevent you from spreading it. So why not remove the mandate and stop all this nonsense?hotroddy
- it's the principle of FREEDOM. And yes, FREEDOM is a first-world privilege. Not only first-world but NEW-WORLD that is slowly dying in the name of "progress"hotroddy
- I don't think that's actually true hotroddy, there are studies showing that vaccines do prevent transmission. Not perfectly, but to some degree.yuekit
- everyone that I know that have had covid, have been vaccinated. Same with masks. Science is proving the masks do shit all.hotroddy
- Of course masks help. You're confusing doesn't work perfectly with doesn't work at all.yuekit
- Why do you think doctors wear masks and other PPE if it doesn't work?yuekit
- they work in very controlled environments.hotroddy
- If you're forced to go into a room with someone who is infected, you're saying you would not wear a mask? Haha cmonyuekit
- why is no one wearing it at the SuperBowl? because everyone the rules are ridiculous.hotroddy
- *everyone knowshotroddy
- lolfadein11
- Milan2
Canadian Civil Liberties Association
The federal government has not met the threshold necessary to invoke the Emergencies Act. This law creates a high and clear standard for good reason: the Act allows government to bypass ordinary democratic processes. This standard has not been met.
The Emergencies Act can only be invoked when a situation "seriously threatens the ability of the Government of Canada to preserve the sovereignty, security and territorial integrity of Canada" & when the situation "cannot be effectively dealt with under any other law of Canada."
Governments regularly deal with difficult situations, and do so using powers granted to them by democratically elected representatives. Emergency legislation should not be normalized. It threatens our democracy and our civil liberties. #cdnpoli
- This is some seriously dystopian bullshit.MondoMorphic
- It also sets a dangerous precedent to squash any future protests using the Emergencies Act and financial blockades.Milan
- If you wanted to protest this (rather than the truck thing), how would you not get rolled up with the truckers and have your finances put in jeopardy?monNom
- Truepango
- I think protest movements in general need to think more about what the endgame is. If you set up shop in the capitol city and shut down businesses and traffic,yuekit
- blockade major bridges that carry millions in goods everyday, what outcome are you expecting? You're more or less forcing the government to either give inyuekit
- to your demands (which in this case are vague and unrealistic) or take some action like this, after which of course everyone starts freaking out.yuekit
- Which part of the "end vaccine mandates" demand is hard for you to understand?Milan
- Why would any responsible government alter their public health policy in response to a protest supported by a minority?yuekit
- But after watching some of the protesters videos, seems like they are calling for more than that..for all restrictions to be ended, and even a new election heldyuekit
- i_monk0
Shit I didn't know we had a thread for this!
1. Trudeau fell into Doug fucking Ford's trap by enacting the Emergency Measures; Ford has done nothing to make sure Trudeau would end up taking the blame just as he's done every stage of the pandemic. The Fed's have very little say over how provinces respond to the pandemic. Ontario votes in June and I won't be surprised if Ford wins on Trudeau's back.
2. It's not a protest and they aren't truckers. From the start it's been a rallying point for the far-right fringe to cry about Trudeau winning the (totally unnecessary waste of money) election last year, backed by foreign money. In any other country they'd be called domestic terrorists.
3. Police outside Toronto have so far proven themselves to be either incompetent or in league with these far-right fuckheads and white supremacists, unable or unwilling to uphold the law when armed radicals seize infrastructure and the fucking capital city.
4. Between the Jan 6 insurrection and this, you better believe people are taking notes on how fragile western democracy is and how easy it is to manipulate society directly. Who'll be next?
5. The pandemic isn't over now matter how hard cons want to pretend, but it's only still a problem because con governments handled it so poorly from the start. Maybe stop electing people who think science is optional.
- Somebody watches the CBCmonNom
- interesting that it was blatantly found these truckers were hikacked by a psyop... yet no one caresinteliboy
- monNom. that you know of.
Left thinks CBC is right
Right thinks CBC is left
¯\_( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)_/¯pango - Domestic terrorists.palimpsest
- I don't think left or right is the correct distinction.monNom
- white supremacist domestic terrorist science denialist jan6 insurrectionist.... We Didn't Start the Fire, tra-la-laBrabo_Brabo
- also, PARKLIFE!Brabo_Brabo
- No.4
This type of 'outside' manipulation is what helped fuel the Jan 6 insurrection. Outside influences are already taking advantage of the fragility.microkorg - Doug Ford is somehow responsible for Trudeau enacting the Emergency Measures Act???? That’s a lolnb
- "Domestic terrorists":
https://www.youtube.…Milan - lol..whenever you inject 'white supremacy' you know you have no argumenthotroddy
- Everything that makes the alt-right look bad is a flase flag or psyop, right?i_monk
- shapesalad0
- If you have racist flags and symbols, then that's the narrative being projected. Get out of the road. Blocking supplies puts lives in danger.ShenanigansTV
- Vaxx mandates put lives in danger. QEDBrabo_Brabo
- how exactly do vaxx mandates put lives in danger? One losing their job because they don't want it? Cause it's freedom to choose. You may not like the outcome,ShenanigansTV
- but freedom.ShenanigansTV
- I know two people who have died from the vaccine.Chimp
- I know two people who have died from reading the QBN notes.ideaist
- 'we are not about identity politics...
we want to revive the Canadian identity'
wAt?fadein11
- Brabo_Brabo3
she has a point
- Obviously a case of internalized white supremacyGnash
- nope. look at that smug face. definitely a white supremacistpango
- Freedumb Fighters Unite!utopian
- twitter outrage junkies unite under one nuffink burgafadein11
- it is a manSalarrue
- Is that Clayton Bigsby's wife?Akagiyama
- INdEed!Gnash
- https://i.redd.it/1q…pango
- Milan-1
"accounts will be frozen" means the Canadian government can now steal your money with the collusion of the banks because you provided financial support to a protest against the government. If you think this is a good idea you deserve what coming to you.
- There goes that right against unreasonable search and seizure.monNom
- HundyPnb
- calm down, its just to stop money flowing in to help them staying organized (food, gas, etc) And they just freeze the account they dont take the money.Bennn
- "accounts will be frozen" does not equals to stealing.sted
- If I take something from you without asking, and I say I'll give it back at some point in the future, what would you call that?monNom
- Governments have always seized money from terrorists, domestic or foreign. It's nothing new and calling this a protest isn't exactly accurate.CyBrainX
- Lol you guys defending this. “Don’t worry we will unfreeze the accounts as soon as you comply with all orders.”nb
- sounds totalitarian to me. more gov't overreach to add to the gov't overreach.hotroddy
- benn do you want to live in a world where the gov't can freeze your accounts if they don't agree with your protests?hotroddy
- This is a protest. Even blockades of roads and transport infrastructure have been a feature of many protests in our history. (Wet’suwet’en, Clayoquot Sound)monNom
- supporters of this are going to be fucked raw next time they want to block a pipeline or save an old growth forest.monNom
- i'm trying to get in touch with my mate who has his compressor outside and built a wall socket for the airbrush.sted
- Terrorists? Lol. Ya, we’re on the road to a nazi truckocracyGnash
- Seems a bit of an overreach.PhanLo
- *fuck wrong threadsted
- You guys are exagerating. This is an occupation and its illegal and the gov need to take actions. Comply or suffer the consequences. THATS ITBennn
- suffering is what nobody wantssted
- bootlickin' goodMilan
- Play Stupid Games
Win
Stupid
Prizesutopian - Prizes?! Awesome, the looting begin!Gnash
- Governments have always seized money from anyone who obtained it by demonstrating unlawful conduct. It is a complex process how and when this happens.sted
- Putting a hold on the account still leaves the $ on the account, nothing gets moved anywhere until a court order supported instruction to act differently.sted
- I like how the same people defending Putin in the other thread think this is some kind of egregious oppression.yuekit
- Like sure Putin may gun down journalists and poison dissidents, but it's nothing compared to the reign of terror of Justin Trudeau's Canada.yuekit
- ^lol. funny bc its truehotroddy
- "supporters of this are going to be fucked raw next time they want to block a pipeline or save an old growth forest.
monNom"jonny_quest_lives - Thatcher's sequestration of union money is brought to mind.Brabo_Brabo
- TPTB dont like us proles organising and objecting to stuff. If we do, we're extremists, populists, racists, terrorists.Brabo_Brabo
- A hearty *fuck you* to the bootlicking smoothbrains here cheering this tyranny on.Brabo_Brabo
- very good idea... good things are coming to me ...idiots with less money....i like it.neverscared
- https://www.theguard…neverscared
- Salarrue2
"accounts will be frozen"
- monNom1
Canadian Civil Liberties Association Files Lawsuit Against Government of Canada over 'Emergencies Act'
@5:00 for their claims
@11:54 Q&A
@17:22 Comment regarding the gov't insufficient justification for these powers.
Contrary to the governments talking points, the text of the act is in no way limited geographically and it affects all Canadians. It does impact your charter rights. (@7:15)
If you don't agree with the act. Let your representatives know.
Email your MP
https://www.ourcommons.ca/member…Email your Senator
https://sencanada.ca/en/senators…
- Salarrue3
In emotional video tonight, protest organizer Tamara Lich seems to accept she is going to jail soon.
https://twitter.com/glen_mcgrego…lol
- https://i.imgur.com/…Gnash
- I'm watching it now. Quality entertainment, protestor lady thanks for the lols.cherub
- Salarrue0
James Bauder, founder of Canada Unity and creator of the convoy that has been occupying Ottawa for more than a week.
- wow you can play bingo with these.pango
- This wing-nut isn’t the protest leader, ffsGnash
- @gnash : https://www.ctvnews.…Salarrue
- “One of the groups....” He certainly doesn’t speak for them allGnash
- Not saying that there aren’t a bunch of loons here, but the hyperbole is out of controlGnash
- tl;dr version: this canuk is a stoopid trumpercherub
- I love how other countries complained about all the raucous with Trump then they try to replicate it for some reason.cherub
- Like you look at how we were during the Trump years and thought to yourself, "I gotta get me some of that in my home country." ...wtfcherub
- The unnecessary capitalization of random words is more disturbing to me than the actual content.yuekit
- AAHAHA lol@bingosted
- TO CLARIFY ! google his first idiotic point and see it's false and the rest of his flimsy house of cards collapses. Facebook are full of these loons_niko
- https://cdn3.whatcul…pango
- how dumb can you be to assume that invalidity of one's individual make the whole movement corrupt?pr2
- You gotta admit tho. It's not a good look as one of the organizerpango
- Salarrue1
Not a surprise that Pat King makes another racist slur. He made his call to preserve “Anglo-Saxon bloodlines,” his racist slur against people of Chinese heritage, his anti-Semitic slur
Yet he is a leader of this occupation, which many Conservative MPs support
- Gnash0
All part of puti’s plan
- woah, hadn't made the Ukraine connection... thanks! :)fadein11
- Just for the morons!Gnash
- if you haven't made the connection between your N.American culture war and Putin yet, you are indeed a moran!
This has nothing to do with Ukraine though lol.fadein11 - https://i.imgur.com/…Gnash
- God, you’re an idiotGnash
- no loons, some loons, a bunch of loons lol.fadein11
- The tinfoil hat is on tight today. Get you wife’s boyfriend to make you a new oneGnash
- I don't have a wife, I'm a 50 year old, bald midget living in my mamas basement haha.
Keep doing what you do xfadein11 - Ah she left for the bf. shockingGnash
- yuekit1
The plot thickens...is this not the same guy in the video that kicked off this thread?
‘We want them infected’: Trump appointee demanded ‘herd immunity’ strategy
Then-HHS science adviser Paul Alexander called for millions of Americans to be infected as means of fighting Covid-19
- Yet again, one rule for Canadians and another rule for African nations we cant be arsed shipping vaccines to that develop less harmful strainskingsteven
- Something is thickening...Gnash
- Truckers did their own research.
Git-R-Doneutopian - https://www.bmj.com/…yuekit
- This guy was helping run USA's COVID policy back in 2020 amazingly enoughyuekit
- where are the birds?fadein11
- Salarrue0
- https://twitter.com/…Salarrue
- Lol. Amir is a jokeGnash
- It’s like a parody accountGnash
- Does Amir think $20 million is a lot of money to the government?i_monk
- do you think $20 mill is NOT a lot of money to 99.99% of people?pr2
- Of course it is, but calling it a 'grab' play off 'cash grab' as if the gov't is just trying to make money from this.i_monk
- ApeRobot-4
- Love the subtle background musicdmay
- "The legacy media" such a silly phraseyuekit
- In the future there will be no more news channels, just Joe Rogan talking for 12 hours at a timeyuekit
- "legacy media" lol fuck off.inteliboy
- Some well formed arguments here chaps. *golf clap*Brabo_Brabo
- Surely the 100's of dead children found in mass graves around catholic orphanages was worse than some truckers not getting to toot toot?PhanLo
- I only get my trucker news from QBN, don't think I've seen it on normal tv at all.PhanLo
- Legacy Media compared to: Facebook, Twitter, Youtube, Joe Rogan and Alex Jones...LOLutopian
- I used to like this guy when he wasn't cool.ideaist
- 1,539,244 views in 4 days.ideaist
- he got way cooler when he ended up a drug addict, the first true psychologist rock and roll star!fadein11
- BuddhaHat1
Convoy class action claim increased to $306M as downtown restaurateurs join lawsuit
The lawsuit also names donors who gave money through GiveSendGo, the alternate fundraising platform organizers turned to when GoFundMe shut them down.https://ottawacitizen.com/news/l…
Play stupid games....
- neverscared-1
One of the largest donations to the Canadian trucker convoy, for $90k is attributed to Tom M. Siebel, an American billionaire.
His company @C3_AI recently received a $500Mill contract from the DOD — Trump's NATSEC adviser McMaster is on the Advisory Board.- *That seems handy
*Next time let him give the Canadian insurgents $500M and have the Defense Dept give him $90K #oligarchneverscared
- *That seems handy
