#BLM
#BLM
- Started
- Last post
- 604 Responses
- Morning_star0
THE NEW RELIGION OF ANTI-RACISM
A podcast and interesting listen in which Sam Harris talks to John McWhorter., who once said this..."victimology, separatism, and anti-intellectualism underlie the general black community’s response to all race-related issues, and "it’s time for well-intentioned whites to stop pardoning as 'understandable' the worst of human nature whenever black people exhibit it."
https://samharris.org/podcasts/2…
Listen, or don't 'sup to you.
- anti-intellectualism underlies most of the american public right now.ben_
- @ben I'm afraid it's probably worse, it seems to be a global problem.Morning_star
- Absolutely. I think back to the women's marches a few years ago when Trump was elected. Nobody was tearing shit up.MondoMorphic
- ...granted, the women's marches weren't happening prior to an election.MondoMorphic
- I'm 50 mins in. They're basically picking apart all the things wrong with BLM thinking, and offering no new solutions to the problemsProjectile
- Listened to him on Vox's "The Weeds" podcast, he's a thoughtful critic of current events and offers solutions worth exploring12xu
- Yes global for sure. USA is over indexing in stupid though.ben_
- colin_s0
most on this forum seem to be some version of centrist/liberal, with a few on either side of the extreme (myself included), so i'd like to ask:
who that may be a moderate is against abolishing the police in the USA and why?
if there were proposals to replace a police department with, say, four or five immediate-response services (an expanded EMT service with different units for mental health, domestic, houseless or automotive incidents) that would have unarmed, trained professionals... would that sway?
obviously there could be a standard detective force for solving crimes, and an emergency armed unit for incidents like a mass shooting (so, a swat team that acts more like a fire department), but no more police.
i guess i don't understand if it's fear or a lack of imagination that is the issue at this point. or perhaps that cops have become so ingrained in american culture it's impossible to get people to realize not only their lack of necessity but the fact they impede social progress at almost every turn.
- it's just so easy to imagine a time in the future where they look back at us as so uncivilized because of copscolin_s
- most on this forum seem to be flat-brained pisswater reactionaries who think minority representation and struggle is amusing and something to be mocked.face_melter
- Personally I don't think the proposal does much without first revising the rights around firearms ownership and addressing wages/poverty.ben_
- ftr I agree with restructuring emerg response based on pillars of social need. I just don't think it can happen before the other two are anchored.ben_
- Aye, face_melter - because bearded non-binary emoji really make a huge difference in the world. Get over yourself.Nairn
- But maybe they do to the people who identify that way? I mean... we're *mostly* grown men here, what the fuck are you doing using emojis?ben_
- Like most other low grade corporate effort, it's not even a lick of paint on the situation, rather a distracting elastoplast for virtuous chest thumpers.Nairn
- You're right from that angle, Nairn. But the comments on that post were uniquely anti-representation and just sounded like bitter old men. Get a Jitterbug.ben_
- simpler times can be found here: https://www.fastemoj…ben_
- t(-.-t).ben_
- Meh, I prefer the world where bitter old men whinge about EVERYTHING, including their own shit. tbh, I found those emoji overly reductive and q. insultingNairn
- so I'm not really sure how the 0.01% of people they're supposed to 'include' would much benefit. Whatever though, we can agree - emoji are cretinous.Nairn
- yeah if you're an adult and you use emojis, you're cut. If you're not and you see yourself represented by emoji's, more power to you.ben_
- if you thought my line was purely about the emojis then you're oblivious to what I meant. the world would be a better place with less old men whining.face_melter
- especially about things they have no idea or experience with. because i'm sure bitter QBN men have been threatened in the street or forced to changed jobs...face_melter
- ...because of how they represent themselves. so don't tell me to get over myself when I see a prick make another '...I identify as...' 'joke'.face_melter
- The funny thing is, for some of the QBNers you've attacked, I know that life wasn't as black and white as you're simplifying, like you've got a clueNairn
- Most cunts in life that I see getting aggrieved about third party issues are the ones that haven't had too much to deal with in their own experience.Nairn
- So no, it wasn't just about the emoji.Nairn
- thank heavens you are back face_melterfadein11
- anyone seen serenity? point of trying to make people better. as long as peopel there will need to be policedeathboy
- so the whole idea is stupi. hell we are no different than we were 10,000 years ago. jsut know a alittle more and carried byt the 1%deathboy
- scarabin1
Racists ruined cross burning for everyone. I say we take it back
- Ramanisky22
Louisville police declare State of Emergency in preparation for Grand Jury announcement on the Breonna Taylor case.
- So ... preparing for failed justice then. Great.monospaced
- if they don't charge the officers with anything then, yeah, they're gonna need it.colin_s
- It’s a grand jury, isn’t what they decide the justice Part?Gnash
- Gnash, you're making too much sense.MondoMorphic
- That’s not what grand juries do. They only determine if a case is worthy of going to trial or not.monospaced
- that’s kinda relatedGnash
- Courthouses... ain’t they where no injustice has ever happened? Come on Gnash... I know you have more sense than that, right?ben_
- I’ve been on two grand juries. Unfortunately they aren’t given any power to exact the kind of justice you might be imagining.monospaced
- They have to follow the law as written - that’s kinda the point. You need to change the laws that are unjust, and that’s the juries jobGnash
- That’s ‘not’ their job, I meantGnash
- Seems reasonable officers not guilty. Bad intel. Sometimes shit happens. I get no knock orders. When aiming to take down some u believe is a suspect it's notdeathboy
- In self interest of police officers to knock and say hey anyone home to arrest. But there will never be a cure for bad inteldeathboy
- Just one of those everyday shit storiesdeathboy
- There was no no knock approval.monospaced
- There was no no knock approval. And there is no verdict you cunt.monospaced
- tHE PoLicE dO nOtHiNg WrOng aND ArE vERy BRavE, the imbeciles honk from the peanut gallery.face_melter
- They are preparing it because historically Grand Jury rarely indicts police. Yes, laws need to be looked at, but still it's historic injustice as it usuallyben_
- doesn't go to trial, so no Gnash, "Justice" isn't what Grand Juries deliver, because they are hamstrung by confusing use of force rules.ben_
- The grand jury could VERY WELL decide this goes to trial, in which case the police in question would immediately become criminal defendants.monospaced
- /\ Yes, let's hope they do. History would suggest that they rarely do that.ben_
- That’s so true, Ben. I didn’t articulate it very well. The jury gets screwed by the technical definitions. It’s not the objective justice people hope forGnash
- Those definitions get amended over time. Hopefully, this will trigger one of those changesGnash
- @gnash, all good. Yeah they seem to be amended slowly if at all. This is just another powder keg with the wick lit.ben_
- And for the record totally open to other views on this but history just shows such a bad track record in these cases. It’s lead to a type of assumed immunityben_
- For copsben_
- wait everything says a no-knock warrant was executed... and since everything was by the book besides body cameras activated... I fully expect officers be freedeathboy
- of charges and fully expect ppl to "feel" no justice has been served. its a shit thing. will you blame the judge for the warrant?deathboy
- people act in good faith on intelligence. you think these people acted as racist looking for a fire fight? acknowledge it for what it isdeathboy
- I wasn't claiming racism, but the combination of a no-knock warrant, no bodycams, and no identification after the breach seems that it's reasonable for Walkerben_
- and Taylor to stand their ground. No one here was there, so going off the report it seems that the cops fucked up and someone should answer for it.ben_
- It's negligence at least, so IF a bodycam were actually on, maybe that clears things up. Either way, cops rarely if ever see indictment past this stage.ben_
- my understanding is that there was no no-knock warrant and they just busted down the door without announcing themselves. Lied about body cams toomonospaced
- Furthermore, cops FAILED to hit the man who shot them. Then let said suspect who shot cop call the police for an ambulance 5 minutes later. Doesn't add up.monospaced
- Breonna didn't shoot at them, yet took all fire. Why did they not call an ambulance and make their suspect do it? Why lie about body cams?monospaced
- yeah from the accounts so far we have a no-knock without identification after the breach (rule 1 broken), lies about body cams (we will see), and then sprayben_
- & pray by the police after a warning shot (bad, but that's undertrained cops' response), then more cover up lies. Breonna caught the bullets because: Cops.ben_
- And what do you know...ben_
- It's about to get wild in KY!davey_g
- Mono u seem way wrong I. The details. Hell I believed bad intelligence by reports but looks all gooddeathboy
- And to bens point they can stand their ground. The question comes into intelligence. Seems legit.deathboy
- It's frustrating everytime a black person makes poor life decisions they are the victim. This is counter productivedeathboy
- Hold people no matter of creed or color to decisions they make. Did her involvement in illict drugs get her shit. Yesdeathboy
- Should drugs not be illicit? A better question for progressdeathboy
- I'm not wrong. The call is recorded and timeline is not contested. Also, last I checked, drug dealing is not punishable by death you fuckassmonospaced
- db, if the police announced themselves after the breach, which they are required to do this could have turned out differently. Who knows, but these cops shouldben_
- at least be held accountable for the protocols they didn't follow. The Louisville police department has always seemed like a bunch of rogue doofusesben_
- My cousin is stationed there and the police force and their training is an open joke amongst the military.ben_
- I mean one of them blind fired through drapes... do you realize what kind of gutless rookie shit that is?ben_
- it was a no knock warrant mono. if they announced themselves and got shot it only justfies it that much more u simpdeathboy
- or wait that is someone else talkign of annoucncement.deathboy
- you all look a like. if breonna didnt drug deal and run money would she have been in that situation?deathboy
- if they didnt shoot cops, if she ducked down. lots of what ifs. But fact is serious people stay in school. If you discuss business from jail lines, you are adeathboy
- lsot cause and goign to drag everyone down with u... or wait.. family got a 12 mil payday.deathboy
- haha maybe no moral to the story, jsut laugh slap your knee and move ondeathboy
- babydick0
I hate this blm "movement" so fucking much. And I'm black. Fuck that shit.
- What do you hate about it?nb
- there is no message to incite violence or damage, only to treat each other better within the community & come together striving for equal treatment as americansimbecile
- It's not very "woke" to downvote a black person expressing their opinion about a black-centric organization.MondoMorphic
- it'd be racist to base a vote on colorimbecile
- Not if u are an antiracistdeathboy
- Duh.deathboy
- f u babydick, I'm white and I support this BLM movement more than you!grafician
- Nobody needs to be disrespected in their own country like that, no human being needs to live in fear of getting shot based on their color of their skin fuck thagrafician
- all movements are hijacked by special interests. guess they're just louder these days with social media.inteliboy
- ^^^grafician
- Gayfician GTFO with your bullshitbabydick
- babydick = https://awaypoint.fi…Milan
- Shit nig if you aint for it you aint black. You a racist!deathboy
- jaylarson7
Why does BLM have to answer for looters and rioters but the NRA doesn't have to answer for school shooters?
- Because they are white, Republican and privileged, duh.utopian
- Also because guns are a fundamental right in the constitution, but being black wasn't considered fully human at the time that shit was writtenmonospaced
- fuck the truth in these three statementsimbecile
- Seriously? It's because the looting/rioting is being promoted *by* BLM and is happening during/as a part of BLM protests.MondoMorphic
- If NRA was promoting a revolution and people were shooting shit up at NRA functions, they'd be help equally culpable.MondoMorphic
- wow, did you get your opening statement from fox news!? blatantly incorrectimbecile
- lol you guys clearly are virgins to protesting, any peaceful protest has agitators brought in by the other side to discredit the initial peaceful protest...grafician
- Romania.monospaced
- BLM isn’t promoting it. The rioters are promoting BLM. Big difference.monospaced
- The NRA should be made to answer. They spend jillions lobbying to make mass shootings easier; 90% or something owned the gun(s) they killed with.i_monk
- the difference being if some kid dared to shoot up an NRA event he would get shot on site.hotroddy
- seen plenty of media, blm, and figure heads say looting is good reparations, blatant vandalism all cool, etc. the good thing is though its over until trump windeathboy
- media learned oh shiz we losing in the polls because most ppl dont really like this shit and we again are falling into our own feedback loopdeathboy
- as far as original question. nra stands for gun rights.not sure anyone knows what blm stands for. its lack of a purpose is its value to change with the windsdeathboy
- of the media. hence todays slider on the site saying today we transform. agile far far left political group akin to bolsheviks. Power is the only aim.deathboy
- so both are quite very different groups and like comparing apples to orangesdeathboy
- not to mention I'm still curious where all actblue unemployed 100 gift cards come from. Smells far worse than russia-trumpgatedeathboy
- actually talking real money now. pushed domestically. not some ukrainian click farm facebook ad buy to a tune of less than 200kdeathboy
- Yawn.garbage
- FFS Deathboy...how many keyboards do you go through a week?utopian
- How could this possibly be worse than a sitting us president guilty of possible treason and election fraud? I guess if you’re a fucking idiot like you.monospaced
- Or a despicable racist cunt who cannot comprehend what BLM is in the first place. Pretty much sums you up deathboy you sorry little excuse for a human.monospaced
- Go fuck yourself to death using a huge black dildo. It would do the world a favor if your genes were removed from the pool.monospaced
- Ah lil girls so sad and upset. Insult insult. But nothing rational... I'd love to hear you def of what blm is mono?deathboy
- Also curious sitting president as treason and election fraud? Can u source such shit or getting from the russiansdeathboy
- You brought it up.monospaced
- Both beed to account regardless of one another.cannonball1978
- No mono u stated fraud and treason with no backing. Yours to show evidence. But I'm guessing all msm hyperboledeathboy
- Cannon what should nra account for? Accounting and money or if there goal is legit liberty issue? Vs liberal super pac that doesn't stand for anythingdeathboy
- @deathboy "how because account why but? checkmate Vs"garbage
- imbecile8
- https://www.theguard…imbecile
- Fucknb
- damn, the more you know_niko
- Oh well in that case go right ahead and do property damage.
Jesus fucking... I cant with this stupid reasoning.cannonball1978 - Sorry im assuming you are making a case for BLM jackassery. I’ll presume you arent. At least I hope you arent.cannonball1978
- there is no reasoning. you're just an asshole looking at houses burned by a bomb dropped by police, yet you're whining about BLM as if they don't.imbecile
- very fine people on both sides.neverscared
- One violence does not justify the other. Therefore one is not an argument for the other existing.cannonball1978
- to clarify, you're okay with police dropping a bomb on your neighbor's house, killing your family and another, burning down a block, to stop your neighbors?imbecile
- cannonball, you are such a blatant and obvious racist.imbecile
- jesus Cannonball, he was pointing out the hypocrisy not condoning anything. Now do you see you idiotic you come across?Projectile
- Idiots: I'm not okay with either situation. Connections or similarities between the two justify nothing. Stupid assholes on both sides.cannonball1978
- "duh wait he not say thing against bad man. *checks racism bingo card*cannonball1978
- deathboy-8
And... No one remembers or cares! Haha bad for polls. Protests go poof
- the fact you're still posting here says otherwise.pango
- plot twist: deathboy is Georgesfadein11
- Just don't want ppl to forget lest they never learndeathboy
- They haven't. You for example is still posting.pango
- Why I said I was posting...deathboy
- U really just typing words for the sound of clicks nowdeathboy
- utopian2
CDC: Almost all of the US kids and teens who've died from COVID-19 were Hispanic or Black
- Ramanisky20
Give him the ticket and be on your way. This cop is in the wrong, knows it and still can’t back the fuck down and de-escalate the situation.
- imbecile4
Louisville settles Breonna Taylor's wrongful death lawsuit for $12 million
- They should make it come out of the police budget.zarkonite
- what about the cops?!grafician
- ^^ it will come from their budget, most forces have cash for lawsuits. NY police paid out around $300 million in lawsuit settlements last year. Cool, huh?face_melter
- From what I read it's a seperate slush fund that the city uses, sometimes it's even bonds: https://www.marketpl…zarkonite
- As in, they borrow money to pay off settlements but can't borrow to, say, build a school.zarkonite
- deathboy-5
So actblue funding... Who runs blm money...https://www.foxnews.com... so much concern of Corp or outside interests this seems to be not a big deal. I'd think this is bigger than 3 years of russia shit... But oh so quiet
- nice link moranutopian
- What in God's name are you fucking babbling about now? I mean, reply all you want - I won't read it. I'm not giving myself a fucking aneurysm.face_melter
- “ so much concern of Corp or outside interests” you idiotsmonospaced
- So u believe money came from unemployed?deathboy
- To see inflow on record low unemployment tosses a shit ton of foreign or election manipulationdeathboy
- It's more domestic related also that loose ukrainian click farmsdeathboy
- Or to say it in a tune u hear. There is many rich interests masquerading as unemployed to funnel fundsdeathboy
- For rich ppl interests. Including foreign govs using our Arab spring methods against usdeathboy
- who are you talking to, you fucking asshole?monospaced
- Well I guess u since u are respondingdeathboy
- dbloc0
Rally in Huntington Beach, CA
https://www.surfcityfamily.com/2…
- omahadesigns-5
- You really are a complete and utter fuckwit mate.BusterBoy
- you certainly are.bogue
- That's a badass jumpsuit! I want to be friends with her! hahahahaMondoMorphic
- PayPal me! lolGnash
- fuck you! pay me!pango
- deathboy-5
Looks like blm styled poor la hit on cops is unsuccessful. What does that do for voters,?
- wut?pango
- https://www.youtube.…PonyBoy
- https://memegenerato…hans_glib
- https://www.google.c…PonyBoy
- Sorry...
https://losangeles.c…PonyBoy - and that's connected to blm how?pango
- 'they' tried to block the ambulance at the hospital and then turned the hospital into a protest zone... chants like 'let them die' etc, pangoPonyBoy
- https://thehill.com/…PonyBoy
- Oh shit that's a dick thing to do. I wonder how police get that much hate.pango
- i read all the link and i couldn't find mentioning of BLM or members of BLM org at the protest nor being the shooter.pango
- Left it to see blank to see if ppl even get informed. Not so much funny the info they get in their each chambersdeathboy
- And fuck google auto correctdeathboy
- But to pangos comment I wonder how u go media didn't mention blm. But they do mention protesters and not thinking same. We're the non affiliated protestorsdeathboy
- Part of some other movement. Why did the news not ask. Or is it seo and narrative controldeathboy
- Nytimes ran a couple pieces of dead antifa guy without mentiong antifa or blm... Of course the also ghost edited the piece. Originally keeping a narrative thatdeathboy
- But within 24 hours changing entire structure and flow of story. I didn't screen grab. But funny the media and it's control on narrativedeathboy
- can you speak properly?pango
- lol!face_melter
- “Fuck google autocorrect” after all this time, that’s what it was?ben_
- I think he just hit next predicted word for all his notes...pango
- My guess is multiple google translates, plus wordscrambler then back to google translate for each individual post/note.ben_
- Yup sounds like willful ignorance flat earth shit. U believe what u believedeathboy
- Lol denialpango
- exact word i was looking for. thanks pango cakesdeathboy
- "Isn't that a river in Egypt?"
—DadPonyBoy - you're welcomepango
- omahadesigns-8
- yes. stop worshipping athletes and celebrities!pango
- how about you, Omaha? What do you do?nb
- https://s3media.247s…pango
- https://s3media.247s…pango
- https://s3media.247s…pango
- Actually fuc lkebron for trying to sell false narrativesdeathboy
- ya fuck anyone trying to sell false narrative. that includes db.pango
- Yeah, what a cunt. Imagine trying to use your platform to raise awareness of important social issues.BusterBoy
- Ha only issues that sign his paychecks. See what his reaction is to Hong know ng protestorsdeathboy
- Or nba. South park already killed the hypocrisydeathboy
- You want him to sort out blm AND Hong Kong? Lol. You gotta pick your battles, mate... something you know nothing about obvsscruffics
- Ha he's not doing anything but getting paiddeathboy
- See his anti racist kiddie books. Get up on any trend that paysdeathboy
- omahadesigns-8
- it played nicely into the hands of republicans so much so that it could be a false flag or at least the work of agent provocateurs._niko
- whatthefunk0
- https://www.qbn.com/…imbecile
- It's so ridiculous it's truly worth double posting, I thought I saw it somewhere...jfcwhatthefunk
- for sure. laughable if it weren't so frighteningimbecile