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- Ramanisky22
Louisville police declare State of Emergency in preparation for Grand Jury announcement on the Breonna Taylor case.
- So ... preparing for failed justice then. Great.monospaced
- if they don't charge the officers with anything then, yeah, they're gonna need it.colin_s
- It’s a grand jury, isn’t what they decide the justice Part?Gnash
- Gnash, you're making too much sense.MondoMorphic
- That’s not what grand juries do. They only determine if a case is worthy of going to trial or not.monospaced
- that’s kinda relatedGnash
- Courthouses... ain’t they where no injustice has ever happened? Come on Gnash... I know you have more sense than that, right?ben_
- I’ve been on two grand juries. Unfortunately they aren’t given any power to exact the kind of justice you might be imagining.monospaced
- They have to follow the law as written - that’s kinda the point. You need to change the laws that are unjust, and that’s the juries jobGnash
- That’s ‘not’ their job, I meantGnash
- Seems reasonable officers not guilty. Bad intel. Sometimes shit happens. I get no knock orders. When aiming to take down some u believe is a suspect it's notdeathboy
- In self interest of police officers to knock and say hey anyone home to arrest. But there will never be a cure for bad inteldeathboy
- Just one of those everyday shit storiesdeathboy
- There was no no knock approval.monospaced
- There was no no knock approval. And there is no verdict you cunt.monospaced
- tHE PoLicE dO nOtHiNg WrOng aND ArE vERy BRavE, the imbeciles honk from the peanut gallery.face_melter
- They are preparing it because historically Grand Jury rarely indicts police. Yes, laws need to be looked at, but still it's historic injustice as it usuallyben_
- doesn't go to trial, so no Gnash, "Justice" isn't what Grand Juries deliver, because they are hamstrung by confusing use of force rules.ben_
- The grand jury could VERY WELL decide this goes to trial, in which case the police in question would immediately become criminal defendants.monospaced
- /\ Yes, let's hope they do. History would suggest that they rarely do that.ben_
- That’s so true, Ben. I didn’t articulate it very well. The jury gets screwed by the technical definitions. It’s not the objective justice people hope forGnash
- Those definitions get amended over time. Hopefully, this will trigger one of those changesGnash
- @gnash, all good. Yeah they seem to be amended slowly if at all. This is just another powder keg with the wick lit.ben_
- And for the record totally open to other views on this but history just shows such a bad track record in these cases. It’s lead to a type of assumed immunityben_
- For copsben_
- wait everything says a no-knock warrant was executed... and since everything was by the book besides body cameras activated... I fully expect officers be freedeathboy
- of charges and fully expect ppl to "feel" no justice has been served. its a shit thing. will you blame the judge for the warrant?deathboy
- people act in good faith on intelligence. you think these people acted as racist looking for a fire fight? acknowledge it for what it isdeathboy
- I wasn't claiming racism, but the combination of a no-knock warrant, no bodycams, and no identification after the breach seems that it's reasonable for Walkerben_
- and Taylor to stand their ground. No one here was there, so going off the report it seems that the cops fucked up and someone should answer for it.ben_
- It's negligence at least, so IF a bodycam were actually on, maybe that clears things up. Either way, cops rarely if ever see indictment past this stage.ben_
- my understanding is that there was no no-knock warrant and they just busted down the door without announcing themselves. Lied about body cams toomonospaced
- Furthermore, cops FAILED to hit the man who shot them. Then let said suspect who shot cop call the police for an ambulance 5 minutes later. Doesn't add up.monospaced
- Breonna didn't shoot at them, yet took all fire. Why did they not call an ambulance and make their suspect do it? Why lie about body cams?monospaced
- yeah from the accounts so far we have a no-knock without identification after the breach (rule 1 broken), lies about body cams (we will see), and then sprayben_
- & pray by the police after a warning shot (bad, but that's undertrained cops' response), then more cover up lies. Breonna caught the bullets because: Cops.ben_
- And what do you know...ben_
- It's about to get wild in KY!davey_g
- Mono u seem way wrong I. The details. Hell I believed bad intelligence by reports but looks all gooddeathboy
- And to bens point they can stand their ground. The question comes into intelligence. Seems legit.deathboy
- It's frustrating everytime a black person makes poor life decisions they are the victim. This is counter productivedeathboy
- Hold people no matter of creed or color to decisions they make. Did her involvement in illict drugs get her shit. Yesdeathboy
- Should drugs not be illicit? A better question for progressdeathboy
- I'm not wrong. The call is recorded and timeline is not contested. Also, last I checked, drug dealing is not punishable by death you fuckassmonospaced
- db, if the police announced themselves after the breach, which they are required to do this could have turned out differently. Who knows, but these cops shouldben_
- at least be held accountable for the protocols they didn't follow. The Louisville police department has always seemed like a bunch of rogue doofusesben_
- My cousin is stationed there and the police force and their training is an open joke amongst the military.ben_
- I mean one of them blind fired through drapes... do you realize what kind of gutless rookie shit that is?ben_
- it was a no knock warrant mono. if they announced themselves and got shot it only justfies it that much more u simpdeathboy
- or wait that is someone else talkign of annoucncement.deathboy
- you all look a like. if breonna didnt drug deal and run money would she have been in that situation?deathboy
- if they didnt shoot cops, if she ducked down. lots of what ifs. But fact is serious people stay in school. If you discuss business from jail lines, you are adeathboy
- lsot cause and goign to drag everyone down with u... or wait.. family got a 12 mil payday.deathboy
- haha maybe no moral to the story, jsut laugh slap your knee and move ondeathboy
- scarabin1
Racists ruined cross burning for everyone. I say we take it back
- colin_s0
most on this forum seem to be some version of centrist/liberal, with a few on either side of the extreme (myself included), so i'd like to ask:
who that may be a moderate is against abolishing the police in the USA and why?
if there were proposals to replace a police department with, say, four or five immediate-response services (an expanded EMT service with different units for mental health, domestic, houseless or automotive incidents) that would have unarmed, trained professionals... would that sway?
obviously there could be a standard detective force for solving crimes, and an emergency armed unit for incidents like a mass shooting (so, a swat team that acts more like a fire department), but no more police.
i guess i don't understand if it's fear or a lack of imagination that is the issue at this point. or perhaps that cops have become so ingrained in american culture it's impossible to get people to realize not only their lack of necessity but the fact they impede social progress at almost every turn.
- it's just so easy to imagine a time in the future where they look back at us as so uncivilized because of copscolin_s
- most on this forum seem to be flat-brained pisswater reactionaries who think minority representation and struggle is amusing and something to be mocked.face_melter
- Personally I don't think the proposal does much without first revising the rights around firearms ownership and addressing wages/poverty.ben_
- ftr I agree with restructuring emerg response based on pillars of social need. I just don't think it can happen before the other two are anchored.ben_
- Aye, face_melter - because bearded non-binary emoji really make a huge difference in the world. Get over yourself.Nairn
- But maybe they do to the people who identify that way? I mean... we're *mostly* grown men here, what the fuck are you doing using emojis?ben_
- Like most other low grade corporate effort, it's not even a lick of paint on the situation, rather a distracting elastoplast for virtuous chest thumpers.Nairn
- You're right from that angle, Nairn. But the comments on that post were uniquely anti-representation and just sounded like bitter old men. Get a Jitterbug.ben_
- simpler times can be found here: https://www.fastemoj…ben_
- t(-.-t).ben_
- Meh, I prefer the world where bitter old men whinge about EVERYTHING, including their own shit. tbh, I found those emoji overly reductive and q. insultingNairn
- so I'm not really sure how the 0.01% of people they're supposed to 'include' would much benefit. Whatever though, we can agree - emoji are cretinous.Nairn
- yeah if you're an adult and you use emojis, you're cut. If you're not and you see yourself represented by emoji's, more power to you.ben_
- if you thought my line was purely about the emojis then you're oblivious to what I meant. the world would be a better place with less old men whining.face_melter
- especially about things they have no idea or experience with. because i'm sure bitter QBN men have been threatened in the street or forced to changed jobs...face_melter
- ...because of how they represent themselves. so don't tell me to get over myself when I see a prick make another '...I identify as...' 'joke'.face_melter
- The funny thing is, for some of the QBNers you've attacked, I know that life wasn't as black and white as you're simplifying, like you've got a clueNairn
- Most cunts in life that I see getting aggrieved about third party issues are the ones that haven't had too much to deal with in their own experience.Nairn
- So no, it wasn't just about the emoji.Nairn
- thank heavens you are back face_melterfadein11
- anyone seen serenity? point of trying to make people better. as long as peopel there will need to be policedeathboy
- so the whole idea is stupi. hell we are no different than we were 10,000 years ago. jsut know a alittle more and carried byt the 1%deathboy
- Morning_star0
THE NEW RELIGION OF ANTI-RACISM
A podcast and interesting listen in which Sam Harris talks to John McWhorter., who once said this..."victimology, separatism, and anti-intellectualism underlie the general black community’s response to all race-related issues, and "it’s time for well-intentioned whites to stop pardoning as 'understandable' the worst of human nature whenever black people exhibit it."
https://samharris.org/podcasts/2…
Listen, or don't 'sup to you.
- anti-intellectualism underlies most of the american public right now.ben_
- @ben I'm afraid it's probably worse, it seems to be a global problem.Morning_star
- Absolutely. I think back to the women's marches a few years ago when Trump was elected. Nobody was tearing shit up.MondoMorphic
- ...granted, the women's marches weren't happening prior to an election.MondoMorphic
- I'm 50 mins in. They're basically picking apart all the things wrong with BLM thinking, and offering no new solutions to the problemsProjectile
- Listened to him on Vox's "The Weeds" podcast, he's a thoughtful critic of current events and offers solutions worth exploring12xu
- Yes global for sure. USA is over indexing in stupid though.ben_
- Ramanisky22
A grand jury decision on the Breonna Taylor case will be read in court today at 1:15pm
- colin_s13
ONE officer indicted on three counts of wanton endangerment
none of the officers that shot and killed taylor indicted for anything
burn it all down and abolish the police
ACAB
- So just endangerment of her neighbors
Unbelievable and pathetic.Ramanisky2 - after lookin deeper it wasn't bad intel. you think ppl wouldn't say dumb shit over a jail line. But yea blind fire not good. Thank god he didnt hit anyonedeathboy
- So they went looking for her previous boyfriend, who they already had in custody... yeah bang up job.Nutter
- but they had her talking of drug tranaction details and him saying that day she has money and runs itdeathboy
- unless he is smart mastermind and jealous of his boo banging another dude tellin him she loves him on business... well sketchydeathboy
- they found no money or drugs, you assholemonospaced
- someone should write a thesis on deathy's bootlicking.face_melter
- The abstract goes: Failed self-taught designer finds solace in internet diatribe sparking move to self-taught maths.ben_
- You put a copy of The Turner Diaries and Libertarian policy pamphlet in a food processor, buzz, then throw the paper at a wet wall. Will make as much sense.face_melter
- lol face... that's basically it.ben_
- they found no money but the calls are legit. independently checked. Why i said maybe the guy was smart calling from jail lines to get cops there.deathboy
- either way verdict make sense. anything more wouldn't. haven't seen one comment that would stand up in courtdeathboy
- and nutter they went after her. phone calls stating 8K. with defund police they need any money they can get. make rabid beasts for confiscationdeathboy
- but i jest. was this before the defund the police? would screw that fun up. it is what it is.deathboy
- So just endangerment of her neighbors
- Ramanisky20
Kentucky AG Live
- imbecile0
Former Louisville Police Officer Charged In Breonna Taylor case
Jump to 16:10 to begin video
- Ramanisky21
all you need to know about Kentucky AG Daniel Cameron.
- Was he on the jury?MondoMorphic
- No but he guides them, do you know how a Grand Jury works? Go wave a flag.ben_
- Projectile0
Fuck me. One officer charged with wanton endangerment! The rest walk
- Louisville will burn tonight; rightfully so...ideaist
- Yep, sorry state of affairs. 5 year max. Unlikely to face any time for this whatsoever. And it's grim that the pussy who blind fires through windowsben_
- takes the fall for the other cops. USA!ben_
- What a joke. Shithole country.BusterBoy
- Buster what do u expect and on what grounds. Pretty curiousdeathboy
- Rightfully so? You're an idiot, ideaist.MondoMorphic
- Oh ... No grounds...deathboy
- akiersky2
- Sam is the attorney for Breonna Taylor's family, one of four lawyers that worked for her $12 million settlementimbecile
- Was shot fired into ceiling effecting other blacks? I'm thinking no. And again. Pos attorney race baiting. Not racial issuedeathboy
- I'm pretty sure he's stoked on the settlement commission regardlessdeathboy
- You act like your interpretation is the only correct one, db. Of course it's entirely possible it's race related. There's a track record of it, ffs.monospaced
- If the only difference is race when handing out charge counts, it raises eyebrows.monospaced
- oh really. well do show the evidence. i do think race is involved in the payout. a white person wouldnt get shitdeathboy
- i also think white death wouldn't have got wanton danger or whatever. no one would have cared. white chic controlling drug money gets shot. noddadeathboy
- do u think we'd have had riots? city pay outs? one of these days youre gonna have to get real mono. quit being a simpdeathboy
- seriously u are suggesting, profiling cops as all racists. and in this case they target this black shit becuase of racism, got a judge to sign off on theirdeathboy
- racism, and they went over there and shot her dead only getting wounded because of their racism...deathboy
- or are you stating law means nothing and anything negative happens lawfully towards a black person must be racist? because cops are inherently racist?deathboy
- sometimes you make me wonder how you ever made it home from school.deathboy
- Oh what no question about race now?deathboy
- Or handling? Hmmmmdeathboy
- utopian0
The newest Tik Tok Rave....Blackfishing
Dumb White Celebrities Push App That Gives You Digital Blackface and Yellowface
- utopian0
Scott Disick and Brody Jenner criticized for promoting app that can make white users appear Black
- deathboy-7
Let me get this straight. Media headlines made me think it was bad intel and someone unrelated to a past aquaintance got a no knock and shot. But not the case. She was actively involved with her side piece dealer guy. Jail phone records and info. Quite changes the narrative from tragic. To meh. Take responsibility for actions and lifestyles
- you sir are an asshole...jonny_quest_lives
- English common law has required law enforcement to knock-and-announce since at least 1604...jonny_quest_lives
- Miller v. United States (1958), the Supreme Court of the United States recognized that police must give notice before making a forced entry.jonny_quest_lives
- In the U.S. federal criminal law, the rule generally requiring knock-and-announce is codified at 18 U.S.C § 3109.jonny_quest_lives
- However, in Wilson v. Arkansas (1995) the Court created an exception to prevent the destruction of evidence and in Hudson v. Michiganjonny_quest_lives
- No-knock warrants may be issued in every state except Oregon (where state law bans no-knock warrants) and Florida.jonny_quest_lives
- Thirteen states have laws explicitly authorizing no-knock warrants, and in 20 additional states, no-knock warrants are routinely granted.jonny_quest_lives
- In the wake of the Breonna Taylor shooting the Louisville Metro Council voted on June 11, 2020 to ban no-knock warrants in Louisville, Kentucky.jonny_quest_lives
- All 26 council members co-sponsored the ordinance, which they called "Breonna's Lawjonny_quest_lives
- they did knock... according to the evidence presented to the GJ today... they most certainly knocked / announced themselves as the police.PonyBoy
- https://bit.ly/301MH…PonyBoy
- get fucked...jonny_quest_lives
- "The scope of our investigation didn't include the obtainment of that warrant by LMPD's Criminal Interdiction Division."jonny_quest_lives
- Federal law enforcement partners are conducting that investigation," Cameron said.jonny_quest_lives
- Cameron said Hankison, Cosgrove and Mattingly were called into duty to help effectuate the search warrant and were not involved in the obtaining that search warjonny_quest_lives
- No drugs were found at the property...jonny_quest_lives
- Mr Walker was initially charged with attempted murder and assault of a police officer, but the case against him.jonny_quest_lives
- Mr Hankison was fired from the Louisville Metro Police Department in June after investigators found he had "wantonly and blindly fired 10 rounds"during the raidjonny_quest_lives
- Mr Mattingly and Mr Cosgrove were reassigned to administrative duties.jonny_quest_lives
- You're quoting old info, jonny. There's new info... take a little break and read the current info. I'll be over here "getting fucked" awaiting your response <3PonyBoy
- The main target of the search warrants was in custody 10 miles away at the time of the shooting... fuck off...jonny_quest_lives
- They found the ex boyfriend's mail on scene? That justifies death by law enforcement?jonny_quest_lives
- You are a genuine cunt
"Take responsibility for actions and lifestyles"jonny_quest_lives - 1:46 a.m.: EMS leave Taylor's apartment complex.
3:35 a.m.: Police return with a second search warrant for Taylor's apartment.jonny_quest_lives - Inside, they find shell casings and bullets. Police recover no drugs or cash, though they do find mail for Glover.jonny_quest_lives
- Did you read the new info, jon—or are you going to continue to deny yourself current info? Telling me to fuck off doesn't change the GJ's facts. *gigglePonyBoy
- At a news briefing, Lt. Ted Eidem says officers found an "unresponsive woman who was later pronounced dead"jonny_quest_lives
- and that officers were "still working through what her involvement was on the narcotics investigation.jonny_quest_lives
- Johnny is emotional. Not sure the history . But also see necessities. Take Obama o osama bin laden. Should they have knocked?deathboy
- Should gov agents knowingly go into dangerous situations and Announce themselves.... Think about it brodeathboy
- The whole concept of the 4th Amendment is fucked in this country...jonny_quest_lives
- And also think about her personally responsibility in shit that happens to herdeathboy
- The issue is there was all due cause signed off. Got into a fire fight. The officer who got spooked and fired could have harmed someonedeathboy
- How the fuck does Osama bin laden have any fucking thing to do with this? This woman had the same freedoms and rights as you and I.jonny_quest_lives
- And incase u think conculsion of no drugs. That's despite the point. Evidence talked of such means a officer can't suspect elsewisedeathboy
- U in w go whip haji into shape a bit moredeathboy
- Look on jail phone she was the mo ey manager. Stupid idiots.deathboy
- And osama is an example of danger to enforcement when it comes to knockingdeathboy
- After reviewing multi sourced evidence I can say meh and the outcome is as should be with more than normal harshness on indicteddeathboy
- And why are u so emotionally concerned?deathboy
- Did like nytimes brain wash u?deathboy
- "U in w go whip haji into shape a bit more." What?monospaced
- WAIT A SECOND LET ME GET THIS STRAIGHT. Media headlines lied to you db? I thought you didn't listen to them. Brainwashed baby boy.ben_
- jonny... did you bother to read any of the actual GJ's report or follow-up on the whole 'no knock' thing? Do you know who fired the first shot here?PonyBoy
- not always. but i don't have enough time and use herd think as well. I was on the incorrect side this time in skimming fake narrativesdeathboy
- But clearly goes to show media signals decisions on where to lead or insinuate. IE where does racism come in? surprised on one sideddeathboy
- of this one but also looks liek info was withheld after media frenzied it, didnt do much to fix itdeathboy
- jonny_quest_lives3
Breonna Taylor shooting: A minute-by-minute timeline of the events that led to her death...
- Why not go by records in which warrant was obtained and reasoning?deathboy
- Jail calls etc.deathboy
- It concerns me your emotional passion for things not truedeathboy
- it's not uncommon for the police's records and reasoning to be a bit biased, especially against black people, that's whymonospaced
- "It concerns me your emotional passion for things not true"jonny_quest_lives
- The truth is Breonna Taylor's life was ended. She was collateral damage to these Officers in their pursuit of her ex boyfriend.jonny_quest_lives
- No chance to defend herself or present any evidence in her defense... The Louisville Police said it themselves...jonny_quest_lives
- "still working through what her involvement was on the narcotics investigation."jonny_quest_lives
- = We killed someone but we will present a narrative that paints her as an accomplice.jonny_quest_lives
- I don't care about her. I never did when I didn't know her. I can say I share equal sympthy for her as collateral damage as much as some kid in pakistan obamadeathboy
- bombed. taking into media hype and riots i wanted to see context. the evidence gives reasons for cops to be theredeathboy
- if they did announce themselves and an officer got shot it also gives reason to defend oneself. there's not much else there. thats the situation and is just.deathboy
- your upset at loss of life can be transferred to almost anyone and many with more merit. That little black guy who shot a 5year old kid just recentlydeathboy
- that is way worse than this in terms of unjust. my gals sister best friend died from a cop running a red light at 5am and t-bone. Off duty, union backed himdeathboy
- said a call came in. couldn't prove it. toxicology was all a mixed bag. 1 dead 1 crippled. no 12 million dollar settlementdeathboy
- which my point is if u can feel so passionately about this but so much other shit in the world how can u be so selective?deathboy
- make me think your heart would have bled out by now. or you dont. its short lived social idignation. hate has its own endorphine highsdeathboy
- i think its more the latterdeathboy
- elahon8
- The Klan is alive and well in Murica.utopian
- The jury members were klanspeople? You know that?MondoMorphic
- "klanspeople" how very inclusive of you.ben_
- It must be so nice to be so easily manipulated (and to be a communist/fascist like Utopian)Hayoth
- People or guns don't kill people...bullets do.utopian
- very fine people on both sides is what utopian is refering too obviously , but the klan members on here don´t get it.neverscared
- we can see u hayoth wearing your hood.neverscared
- "We were told today that Breonna's life was worth less than the drywall next to her"Milan
- hear that utopian, according to Hayoth you're part of the Nazbol Gang now.face_melter
- There are certain people in this thread that need to fuck off in a big way. This verdict is outrageous.garbage
- actually her life was valued at 12 million...deathboy
- actually a pretty nice payday considering she was in lower averages who would never see that kind of pay off drug deals, or nursing.. just saying....deathboy
- I'm trying to believe that you're trying to do a bit and you're just really bad at edgy comedy.garbage
- But if you are actually being serious, please go punch a cop. Maybe we'd suddenly not have to read your boring bullshit. Darn.garbage
- _niko0
Menthol cigarettes have been banned in most countries worldwide as being more addictive and dangerous than regular cigarettes but America has refused to do so thus far in fears it will offend African American smokers who smoke menthol at a rate of 80% of their demographic! 35,000 african americans die of smoke related diseases per year. crazy.
- or, big tabacco in concert with racist america is purposefully trying to kill them off, damned if you do, damned if you don't._niko
- Is it really because they don't want to offend black people? Probably more like cigarette companies don't want to lose a third of their profits.yuekit
- from cigarette companies for sure, but from SJW that have banned everything from water bottles to big gulps, you'd think they'd be all over something as dangero_niko
- as menthol cigs, but nope, too chicken to offend._niko
- Actually looks like they were banned in California just last monthyuekit
- https://publichealth…yuekit
- only just recently banned menthols in UK.fadein11
- If u don't want to see riots. Don't try to take our mentholsdeathboy
