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- trooperbill1
shes only done what we all knew she fucking would - back down on everything same old status quo bullshit while lining their pockets.
- Imagine trying to unify a party of turds on Brexit. I dislike her intensely but she faces an impossible task. Let's all blame Cameron again.fadein11
- Yep, what the f was Cameron doing? Instead of a vote, he should have grown some balls and told the EU to calm it.shapesalad
- Ianbolton2
Who in their right mind would think Brexit was a good idea - today?
- Plenty people. Repeating soundbites on a loop.PhanLo
- "...but the swarm of immigrants and £350 mil a week to the NHS"fadein11
- It's not, but EU's Juncker is a alcoholic despot - read some of his quotes. Instead of Brexit, we needed an EU2.0 update.shapesalad
- Japan & EU just signed off a virtual zero trade tariff agreement. And UK have...?shapesalad
- what brexit will be - no, what brexit should have been - yestrooperbill
- EU is fucked. I'm not a Britexiter but the people leading out were a joke and anyone that fell or their bollocks poor fuckers. As Shape says EU 2.0mugwart
- EU was corrupt from the start and talking of military army ... no way.
UK are equally as fucked and corrupt. Blind leading the fucking blind.mugwart
- MrT5
- detritus4
We should've stayed in the EU - but - done what all EU countries do, especially France & Germany, when things don't suit them: break the rules.
I remember reading a while back - and wish that I'd kept the link - that there's a large scoreboard somewhere in Brussels with all the EU countries listed on, noting their compliance across EU rulesets. Who was top of the compliance list? The UK.
We're a weirdly spineless country sometimes, quick to blame others for our own failings, slow to act and amend our own failings .. on our own.
Look at Portugal - https://www.nytimes.com/2018/07/…
The UK is - for now - still one of the larger economies in the world, especially for its size. What's to stop us occasionally bending rules for our own benefit?
We really are a nation of meek, curtain-twitching idiots.
- “Listen, smile, agree, and then do whatever the fuck you were gonna do anyway.” – Robert Downey Jr.sinjun
- Hah, indeed... was in Berlin smoking cigarettes with branding on the packet, in a bar - somewhere in the UK there's someone blaming all 3 on the EU.kingsteven
- I think it's the Ozzies we have to blame for that particular game, no? I quite like the camo green everything comes in now.. :)detritus
- Yep, Australia’s doing. And the government here is just as messed up as back home in Blighty. Let’s move to Portugal.MrT
- On Portuguese tv last night, there was a l best regional meal+wine competition, each region cheering on it's specialities.shapesalad
- Couldn't imagine that on BBC 1, too nationalist, not including enough minorities etc.shapesalad
- National debts, money owed to banks that create money buy typing digits into a computer, it's all nonsense.shapesalad
- Soz shape but there’s been quite a few series on regional food in the ooo k.MrT
- Fax_Benson2
Aye. Post-Trump and the rise of the populist right, or whatever you want to call it, 2 more years of migration issue inertia and with the threat of a referendum in our pocket and Cameron gone, we really could have put pressure on Brussles to reform.
In the meantime we could have actually had a think about the the massive problems we have and what Brexit might be able to achieve. Have an actual debate, maybe a cross-party commission, even put together some kind of legislation outlining what a potential brexit might look like.
And THEN have a fucking referendum, if you really must.
- +1fadein11
- easiest way to shit the EU up would have been to be serious and do things properlyFax_Benson
- really freak em outFax_Benson
- yepfadein11
- we still had the best deal out of any member state though.fadein11
- A second referendum... I feel now would be too much of a EU disruptive play to get us to remain.shapesalad
- wasn't suggesting a second one - just waffling about what we should have done before the first.Fax_Benson
- shapesalad0
- these videos have no substance. just weird emotional shit about something that may or may not have been true decades ago.scruffics
- 'May or may not' - nobody knows. Mostly because it was long before anyone today would claim to have experienced.scruffics
- ^ huh? Decades? what?shapesalad
- i don't know, have you watched the video?scruffics
- youtube; allowing idiots to share their BS opinions in a smarmy tone from their bedrooms since 2005.lowimpakt
- lowimpakt0
- OH, It all becomes so much clearer now. This has nothing to do with sovereignty - we just like making things complicated for everyone else in the world...detritus
- ... https://upload.wikim…detritus
- < bit out of date, as Canada and Japan now have those trade agreements. We should join them.shapesalad
- I'm from "England, Great Britain, United Kingdom, British Islands, British Isles". I'd like to that on a dropdown menu...shapesalad
- it isn't out of date.fadein11
- ^ https://www.bbc.com/…shapesalad
- "mid-prcess, 5 years so far"
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"[a] workable agreement may take some time"detritus
- Gnash1
- This brown and morbid landdetritus
- Ooh, I can see Arron Banks' brass neckFax_Benson
- detritus0
- < a bit bias, some people voted leave for genuine reasons, not due to being Nazis right wingers.shapesalad
- @shape - read the article, its about what may likely happen rather than reasons for voting.fadein11
- I think I should stay in Lisbon and make it a permanent move.shapesalad
- < Add in to that hard brexit mix issues with immigrants vs locals - both sides will start fighting.shapesalad
- < he makes the point that food won't be imported, yet food in uk fields will be left to rot as no export market - I think we can eat that food?shapesalad
- I'm going to seek refugee status in the EU!shapesalad
- The imported food concern's a bit awry, I think - EU restrictions would more affect exports from the UK. Still, an interesting hyopthesis.detritus
- as he says around 50% of the food we eat comes via the EU and prices will increase sharply if no deal is done, fair assessment imho.fadein11
- Fax_Benson0
Dry as a bone but objective twitter thread about possible way round the NI customs issue. How these brexit hard-ons can be involved in finding a way out of this and STILL guff on about 'clear mandates' and 'will-of-the-people' is fucking staggering.
- chukkaphob4
- EU regulation width, no doubt. He'd have cleared a proper British narrow-gauge canal.Fax_Benson
- ffs this gif is the large file on QBN and even with high speed interwebs it's take uncountable minutes to load!shapesalad
- @Fax touché.chukkaphob
- it's the change up from grass to concrete that confuses him. Like putting from up against the fringe.Fax_Benson
- Keeps crashing my browser. Brexit style.PhanLo
- Wolfboy0
I'm feeling a bit peckish... I could really go for some adequate food.
- Fax_Benson4
"Brexit is so weird to follow from afar. It’s like watching a guy slowly demolishing his own house with a sledgehammer because he lost a Twitter poll"
- shapesalad0
Best solution would be to not leave the EU, but for the Britain to take over the EU and rule it our way.
- like the good old days, eh?lowimpakt
- We need a 'Stamford Raffles' of the 2018 to lead us.shapesalad
- Imagine Britain running the EU. They'd work 24 hours a day and get nothing done.PhanLo
- tbh we're here because america is doing a decent job of funding it's destruction, i don't think the fact that we succumbed to the BS first makes us leaders...kingsteven
- +1 kingfadein11
- shapesalad-1
- https://twitter.com/…shapesalad
- The first steps towards the EU army.shapesalad
- ^ yeah so much for just a free marketmugwart
- detritus1
https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk…
Rees-Mogg: “We will know at some point, of course we will. But it’s a question of timescale.”
Guru-Murthy: “So how long have you got?”
Rees-Mogg: “We won’t know the full economic consequences for a very long time, we really won’t.”
Guru-Murthy: “Of course not, but I mean we’ll have an indication. We’ll know if there’s been chaos, we’ll know if there have been job losses.”
Rees-Mogg: “The overwhelming opportunity for Brexit is over the next 50 years.”
- For the proles. His opportunities are already presenting themselves.Fax_Benson
- [insert specifically-violent sentiment against Rees-Mogg that could land me in trouble with the authorities]detritus
- He could be the worst of the lot.Fax_Benson
- Ever since I first saw him pop up on Have I Got News For you years ago, I've wondered why he has any relevant public existence. He lives in a different world.detritus
- If he's the worst and most regressive right-winger, then going by current trends in the world he'll inevitably be PM soon :)yuekit
- It's a crowded field.Fax_Benson
- we need politicians from the real world, not political work shy elite.shapesalad
- There are lots of great constituency MPs from the real world, from all different parties. We need a system which allows them to get to the top instead of the cuFax_Benson
- Rees-Mogg is the most absurd example of many unfortunately. Brexit was always about protecting elite wealth and nothing else, shame so many were suckered in.fadein11
- lowimpakt1
a decent well researched article discussing the possible impact of a no deal on food imports and the nonsense idea of stockpiling foods within a just-in-time system (unless you just want to eat spam)
- I wish somebody would put Dunt up against Rees-Mogg or Johnson or any of the hardcore brexiters for more than a few minutes. He properly knows his onions.Fax_Benson
- Folk will be eating their young within two weeks, but it will be worth it.PhanLo
- It strikes me as completely eco un friendly to be exporting/importing meat. Surely if we stop exporting meat we won't need to import it?shapesalad
- It's all a race to the bottom, global/eu trade allows constant supply of cheap meat, regardless to the environmental or local cost.shapesalad
- In any case, the UK has an obesity problem - it's not a bad thing for the UK to be low on food supplies for a while.shapesalad
- The uk's recent African migrants will soon fill the meat supply gap, being used to bush meat, by offering up squirrel, hedgehog and badger meat.shapesalad
- and a nice plate of gammon for you Shape haha.fadein11
- you're right about meat but about half of all food eaten in UK is imported, of that 30% from the EU and 11% is from countries that have agreements with EU.lowimpakt
- yuekit4
- Some interesting discussion from people who actually work in shipping and trade.yuekit
- great!Krassy
- we're f****d.shapesalad
- I said Brexit means Brexit in my sleep the other night my wife said.PhanLo
- That was a decent discussion, but they need a gammon guy to make it more Brexity.PhanLo
- Gammon!I made the mistake of buying gammon - what a disgusting food.shapesalad
- shapesalad0
- It's going to be great. He's talking nonsense.PhanLo
- ^lol...shapesalad
- shapesalad-1
- why the down vote? It was a really informative lecture!shapesalad
- I did ... he had no message/nothing unique to say. Same old shit. To be honest I switched off early on.mugwart
- It was his mindset for me. But I'm weird and in a mood!mugwart