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- ernexbcn4
£1 = 1.08€
- lowimpakt0
Trump officials don't want to work with Boris Johnson 'because they think he's a joke'
http://uk.businessinsider.com/do…
"The French think Boris is totally unreliable, the Germans think he’s a liar and the Italians think he’s dangerous," one Conservative MP told Sylvester.
- ********0
49/51 you say?
- before the sensitive people get their knickers in a twist, I'm just posting this impartially. Just thought it interesting considering the figures.********
- We have voting machines in the UK?detritus
- I would hope that you're well aware that we do not.********
- what's it got to do with brexit? and why are they clapping in court?Fax_Benson
- They're American. It's relevant because of the figures. For whatever reason they see it appropriate to rig it 49/51********
- I don't understandFax_Benson
- lost me, yours retarded one xfadein11
- I have to spell it out do I. My point was simply that the most likely result of a rigged election is 49/51********
- oh I got that. soz thought there was another point... my bad.fadein11
- I did preface this with a note saying I'm not really suggesting anything.********
- detritus couldn't help himself though********
- "Miss! Miss! The older boys are picking on me again!"detritus
- It's alright little fella I was only joking********
- before the sensitive people get their knickers in a twist, I'm just posting this impartially. Just thought it interesting considering the figures.
- Bluejam0
PM’s decision is ‘yet another own-goal’ while minutes of Brussels meeting reveal EU negotiators’ low opinion of David Davis
https://www.theguardian.com/worl…Ukip donor attempts to unseat 'Brexit saboteurs' Rudd and Hammond
https://www.theguardian.com/poli…
- detritus0
I'm wondering if we'll see a massive ratcheting of "Russian involvement" in a bid to dilute the Brexit movement's legitimacy.
- not sure they can, or at least there doesn't seem to be any concrete evidence of direct meddling. Don't think the UK political class would even notice, anyway.Fax_Benson
- Who needs evidence?detritus
- The Brexit Fannies are already doing a bang-up job making themselves look like a bunch of fucking spare pricks. No need for Russian tricks.face_melter
- As much I I'm against Brexit, referring to 50% of the population as 'fannies' is possibly why we've gotten ourselves into this mess in the first place..detritus
- Brexit will be a laugh, folk dying of starvation, mad max in the streets. Union Jacks everywhere. HeavenPhanLo
- ^ sounds like where I grew up!mugwart
- ^ It's the dream, a miserable utopia. Back to the good old days, like during the blitz.PhanLo
- Nope. They're fannies of the highest order, myopic, selfish, little fannies. Laying threat to my fucking livelihood? Fuck them.face_melter
- It's massive fuck you to people working in the EU, we're bottom of the list just as long as cunts can get their curvy bananas and fake £350 million-a-week.face_melter
- "Your fucking livelihood?" And they're the ones here who are myopic and selfish? Have you travelled around much of ex-industrial parts of England, face?detritus
- Fax_Benson1
- shared by someone who works in the EC apparently. Completely unverified, so may be fake news bollocks.Fax_Benson
- Bluejam0
James Murdoch warns No 10 not to shun Fox's Sky bid in Brexit run-up
https://www.theguardian.com/medi…- Slimy deceitful cuntdetritus
- someone, somewhere at some point surely has to to them to to fuck off.Fax_Benson
- all are scum of the earthmugwart
- detritus0
Huh, one of my biggest bugbears over the past years has been been the sense that UK had managed to gut its manufacturing base, so this is a bit of a surprise to me..
"new data shows that Britain is now the 8th largest industrial nation with an annual output now worth $249bn, up from 9th place last year."
- be interesting to know how much of that is genuinely British manufacturing and how much is overseas companies building here for export to EuropeFax_Benson
- yeah, true - we are Nissan, Siemens, Komatsus et al's worker bitch after alldetritus
- Brexit could be pretty good if somebody else was doing it, in about ten years time, with a plan and some costings and a less cuntish attitude.Fax_Benson
- once the various looming crises have been cleaned up.Fax_Benson
- I'm just trying to grab on to whatever I can before the rug's pulled from underneath us all.detritus
- The growth can be attributed to the huge drop in the £ making us way cheaper and businesses ramping up orders before they jump ship.monoboy
- Shame. As our manufacturing businesses are world class. But they are bought and sold to the lowest foreign bidders by boards that want dividends.monoboy
- And before that, in 2015 when we surpassed the French? Or do we default to shitting on everything about our country because some decision didn't go our way?detritus
- Sure, some of that growth is directly attributable to currency rates, but it saddens me how quick many in our country are to be negative.detritus
- Yeah. It's like putting a hard hat on before being kicked in the balls.Fax_Benson
- Now, to your last note I do agree with, sadly - that's why I wanted to post < this . That's an endemic 'class' problem though, nothing to do with Brexit.detritus
- i wish more in Blighty had long-term local perspective, something like Germany's Mittelstand. All that died out here decades ago though.detritus
- we've been cutting away at the roots for so long and so deep that, with brexit on top, the whole things is going to topple overFax_Benson
- Manufacturing remains the backbone of the Germany economy. They have a supply chain that goes from steel to a BMW, to the purchaser financing.monoboy
- We dismantled that in the 80s in favour of a free market economy that favours the finance and service industry.monoboy
- Why provide jobs to unionised northerners when you can make shite loads sitting at a nice desk in the City.monoboy
- The EU takes a more socially democratic view, whereby the free-market is great, as long as it's for the 'greater good'. Which is why the Tories hate it.monoboy
- Sometimes, yes, but the EU is often just as placatory towards big business as any other political agglomeration.detritus
- Witness the change in law next year wherein charges for payment by credit cards are no longer allowed - who does that best serve? Consumer or business?detritus
- Witness the nkultiple legsilations that aren't affordable by small businesses and startups. The EU's not perfect - in fact, it's got a lot wrong with it.detritus
- ..but as said so often, we'd still likely be better off inside as a political ane economical counterweight to federalist conglomerate fantasies.detritus
- The EU is just a mutually beneficial trade agreement between rich nations. Businesses bend the rules and call the shots. But it's fundamentally positive.monoboy
- Where it fails, is the fiscal management of poorer EU nations and the banking industry. What the EU did to Greece was outrageous.monoboy
- But that has more to do with ECB, corrupt Greeks government and the crash of 2008 than the principles of the EU. Shame really.monoboy
- Do you know which of the big EU countries has the highest compliance rate? The UK. Who plays by the rules more than Germany, France or Italy?detritus
- Which are the countries who bend EU regs by illegally supporting national industries the most? France, Germany and Spain.detritus
- The UK joined the EU as a member of a trading bloc - we have no problems with that and fairer than any other. Has it benefitted us more than not being part?detritus
- No one can say. Which two national banks were the most against the Euro? BoE and the Bundesbank. Why? Because of the real fear of a 2 speed federation.detritus
- the EU has some SERIOUS fundamental problems tha go way past Greece's treatment. Go visit Italy and see what cost they pay to German supremacy.detritus
- our leaving is sad, and has been much missold to the electorate, but it is NOT without reason, and is NOT provably a catastrophic decision.detritus
- German 'leadership' is pragmatic to the point of utopianism and is ultimately inward looking navel gazing borne of a chip-shouldered guilt complexdetritus
- we always had the best deal though, so much leeway. but yep the UK (or it's elite) will never toe the line - still trapped in empire dreams.fadein11
- Ughft, I wish people would stop regurgitating that crap - honestly, how many people have you met 'harking after Empire'?detritus
- Liam Fox, the Brexit secretary. Has a portrait of Cecile Rhodes above his desk.monoboy
- detritus0
- they did it to themselves - went crazy for the SNP in the wrong vote and ended up with the tories forever.Fax_Benson
- monoboy0
Boris used the £350m NHS lie again.
This is actual position of the government...
- The landed gentry vote Tory, they've already been guaranteed replacement subsidies form UK tax payers. Even the ones that rent to farmers. So, bye bye NHS.monoboy
- The alternative, land owners up rents to tenant farmers, food becomes really fucking expensive and/or entirely imported.monoboy
- Unless of course we have a government with the balls to make land reform. But it'll never be a Tory one.monoboy
- "Boris is Boris"
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http://bit.ly/2qbkqa…Bluejam
- fadein110
Brexit: 'Zero chance' leaving EU will make Britons better off, Nobel laureate economist Paul Krugman says
- monoboy1
- Lets have non of the benefits for 13 times the cost of membership. Excellent work Britain.monoboy
- Also, most EU immigrants are working age tax payers, paying for older Leave workers pensions and healthcare.monoboy
- New trade deals with countries outside the EU will also include immigration deals.monoboy
- We always did and always have had sovereignty. All EU member sates do. The government even said so in their 'Brexit' bill.monoboy
- shitshow.fadein11
- the power of media.fadein11
- We can control our borders. We chose not to.monoboy
- We can and do set qualifying criteria for EU citizens to live and work here.monoboy
- Fisheries and Agri policy was set by the UK. Farrage was even on the EU fisheries committee but failed to attend a single meeting.monoboy
- There is one benefit to leaving however. We avoid the EUs new anti-tax avoidance directive set to become legislation in Jan 2019.monoboy
- So makes you wonder why all these city boy financiers bankrolled the Leave campaign? And used Cambridge Analytica to orchestrate it?monoboy
- yepfadein11
- Stitched up like a kipper by nefarious wankers and fucking idiots.monoboy
- indeedfadein11
- hans_glib1
the whole mess is descending into a total shitshow. and now that germans have other things on their minds, supposedly everything is further delayed until they sort out their government.
and owen smith thinks that northern ireland is now going to be remain as part of the eu?
ffs
