Paris terrorist attack Nov13th 2015
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- i_monk0
120 dead at Bataclan. 3 killed in explosions at Stade de France.
- fues0
- fuck your postoey
- yup, sad but truefues
- Quit burying your head in the sand. They're ISLAMIC terrorists. They are powerful and organized and killing just as many if not more muslims.IRNlun6
- They are wealthier and more organized than moderate muslims.IRNlun6
- ISLAM the religion of peace and tolerance.utopian
- If indeed Islamists, will be interesting to see if they were homegrown, or if they fought in Syria and were part of the recent influx of migrants_niko
- Pic above is clearly Mossad agents lol_niko
- Lol _niko and so true IRNIHijoDMaite
- I feel bad for the victims family and also the none extrist Islam... Sigh... More suffering to come for all.pango
- Freedom rules!freedom
- oey-10
Could it be cause of some sort of symbology behind the name?
Eagles...Death...MetalCrazy shit...
- by crazy shit I mean the attacks not any conspiracy theory behind a band name.oey
- I'm hoping this was just a coincidence. Ive meet this band and they only want to have a good time.fooler
- A lot of people gathered in a low-security area is why I think it was targeted.Cosmodrome
- utopian0
- Unfortunately the idiots that carry it out often do it in the name of Islam fucking it up for all the rest, doing irreversible damage to the brand (if you will)_niko
- yep, now turn that into the context of freedom and democracy and that will give you the pov of a muslim living in the middle eastgeorgesIII
- praying, the best solution ever.ApeRobot
- georgesIII3
guys before this thread become a hatefest, I invite everyone to take a step back and look at this event with clear eyes,
stop trying to find a culprit already, because if it goes like the previous time, this is only the beginning,
I pray for the families and france,
but untill everything is settled can we put the pitchforks down ----E- feel the same here. we don't even know much about the detail yet.pango
- The Radical Islamic Terrorist Muslims have claimed responsibility...the... name is ISIS.utopian
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you do know who is isis don't you?georgesIII - ^
No I don't, please enlighten me.utopian - I hate whomever did this. Chances are it was Islamic extremists or related to ISIS. Is it wrong to think these things?monospaced
- No. Speculations are natural at this kind of situation. As long as it's not being stated as an fact when nobody had the evidence to support it.pango
- These kind of accusation has to be absolutely accurate when being stated as fact.pango
- Gardener5
- well.. that was unexpectedautoflavour
- The Hoffsea_sea
- Did they hoff to do that??iCanHazQBN
- set5
- or it is just gladio b in action, be this or that the ultimate goal of raising islamophobia is working pretty wellgeorgesIII
- God Bless ISIS and their freedom fighters bringing their message of love, tolerance, and freedom to every country around the world!utopian
- Saudi Wahabbis are so peaceful in spreading their beliefs. Don't worry, because they openly push to build Mosques to spread their fundamentalist peace.IRNlun6
- But let's not blame those that counter ideological criticism with terror.IRNlun6
- ISIS says it was because France was bombing Syria. Will be interesting to see if this affect the UK's plans to move forward with their own air strike in Syria.yuekit
- If ISIS could find a way to attack and blame Iceland and or Haiti it would.utopian
- This religious denial is basically saying don't criticize Islam because Muslims are ticking time bombs who terrorize because hurt feelings.IRNlun6
- what religious denial? I'm finding it hard to follow your point, IRNlun6monospaced
- There are terrorist who vehemently believe in Islam and to say it has nothing to do with religion before people have even been buried is fucking insulting.IRNlun6
- I'm really fucking pissed about this mono, not directed at youIRNlun6
- I know. I don't think there is flat-out denial here, actually. Just to a call to recognize it's not Islam in general dictating this, it's an extremist group.monospaced
- These terrorists might "vehemently believe in Islam," but they are also clearly distorting it.monospaced
- I've seen flat out denial, with a "it's not our responsibility to weed out the extremists from our midst"formed
- There are 1.6 billion Muslim in the world. Wouldnt you think it's logical to narrow down de profiling 2 the small group of people(extremis) who's responsible?pango
- The problem is there aren't any moderate muslims. A secular muslim is an oxy moron. 99.9% of arabs identify themselves as muslimhotroddy
- muslim won't call them out on their shit because they believe 85% the same shit. They maybe disagree on how to wage jihadhotroddy
- Go search Twitter #notinmyname.pango
- Exactly. Jihad doesn't mean to kill other. It mean religious duty. The difference is "how" they spread their religion"pango
- the fact is there should be arabs not identifying with the name. Secularist society wouldn't give a fuck about the name.hotroddy
- missionaries are fucking annoying as well. exploiting the poor and starving ones to spread their religion. But they haven't killed yet.pango
- So you are saying they are guilty because they don't want to give up the name of their religion?pango
- yes. they are accomplices. the society to change from within and be more critical about religionhotroddy
- That I can agree. Change needs to come from with in. But still not enough for me to do or say anything that might cause harm or suffering to those who haspango
- Nothing to do with the attack.pango
- Miesfan0
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- The guy who took this video was, himself, shot in the arm, trying to help victims, I think. He's sais to be recovering in hopsital.Continuity
- said*Continuity
- Well, he keeps saying 'Qu'est-ce qui se passe?', which means 'what's happening?' I think I heard him on the BBC after the police left his apartmentBuddhaHat
- They temporarily used it as a sniper positionBuddhaHat
- That is a shocking and horrific video. It literally makes me want to take action.HijoDMaite
- yeah hijo, why don't you enlistgeorgesIII
- I did my time, 6 years thank you. I have another role as a husband and father now. If i was single maybe it would be a different story.HijoDMaite
- utopian0
ISIS Claims Responsibility, Calling Attacks ‘First of the Storm’
The Islamic State claimed responsibility on Saturday for the catastrophic attacks in the French capital, calling them “the first of the storm” and mocking France as a “capital of prostitution and obscenity,” according to statements released in multiple languages on one of the terror group’s encrypted messaging accounts.
- Screw them and this helpless feeling, I refuse to live in fear. :(sea_sea
- Exactly sea. And yet here I am, scared.monospaced
- utopian0
Islamic State says France remains top target
"To teach France, and all nations following its path, that they will remain at the top of Islamic State’s list of targets, and that the smell of death won’t leave their noses as long as they partake in their crusader campaign," said the group.
- it's convenient how these isis fools, conveniently ignore the country that are arming themgeorgesIII
- it's not that simplemonospaced
- jmckinno0
Paris terrorist shooting: Man arrested in Bavaria by German police 'linked to French capital attacks'
- D4W33D2
witness of the barbarity:
https://www.reddit.com/r/france/…
I was at Bataclan tonight. I came back home over an hour ago, but I can't sleep anyway.
I don't have the full story, the situation quickly meant that we couldn't see what the terrorists were doing, or elsewhere in the room etc. . I will give 'my' version.
The moment we heard the 'fireworks', I was in the mosh pit near the stairs when the terrorists came in, and, out of reflex, I ran directly towards the right side of the stage.
In my 'corner', everyone was on top of each other in contrived, painful positions, face on the ground, head resting on whatever, a leg, for example. On top of a bloodbath. And that's how the worst game I have ever played started.
The waiting game.
The heaviest silence in the hall was punctuated with gunfire. Not in time, with no logic, nothing. Just, gunfire now and again. And we asked ourselves if the next bullet was for us.
Waiting for the police to arrive, without any notion of time (no watch, couldn't get to my phone). Feeling people getting up to suddenly get shot down. And again. And again....
Not allowed to move, because a simple movement made the pain worse - mine as well as theirs - (we were really all interwoven together). Not allowed to talk, to whisper, nothing. Someone starts to cry? They were met with 'shushes' from everyone.
The terrorists didn't say anything, apart from at the beginning when they said something about Syria, French President Hollande, and the fact that it was only the beginning. At the start, they 'explored' the place, shooting randomly at people lying on the ground. Then we couldn't see anything. Then we heard gunfire. It was impossible for me to quickly get up and escape, every muscle was numb and it was impossible to see the rest of the hall without potentially coming into view of the terrorists, a chance that I didn't dare take. I was counting on the police.
You think that with an event of this magnitude, the army will be called up and that someone will come and intervene. We clearly had no idea about what was happening at République or Stade de France at the same time. Nobody came. And the gunfire continued (not in bursts). So we waited, playing lottery with the terrorists. You have these awful thoughts, like "I beg, please not me, aim at the other side of the hall." These thoughts are interrupted by gunfire.
At one moment (shall we say near the 'middle?' My idea of time is distorted), an explosion rang out. According to other witnesses, it was a grenade which was thrown into the pit near the stage. I can't confirm, if it was only an explosion.
And there, that is when the waiting game took a turn. They had explosives. Fanatics armed with explosives, without demands... Your brain has a way of only thinking of the worst: we are not a currency to be changed. Of course, I asked myself if the aim was not simply just to blow up the building, or least us, the crowd. The waiting was not the same as before. Time became longer. The pain intensified. People were panicking/suffering more and more. Telephones began ringing more and more, as friends and relatives were trying to get information, which just intensified everything more and more (don't make a sound!). We looked for comfort by exchanging looks with people around us, only then to come back to the feeling of fear.
Where are the police? What are they doing? We really started to despair. Finally, someone whispers 'The police are here.' And everything changed. Time became longer again, as they did not come and intervene straight away (scoping things out, etc). At this moment I think that the terrorists went upstairs somewhere inside Bataclan, as the police came in without shooting.
Then a horde of police came in. Getting up, helping people to get up, seeing armed police bursting into Bataclan.... It was a relief I cannot describe. We looked at each other, shaking, still alive. We obviously stayed extremely vigilant. The police didn't know if the terrorists were among the crowd or elsewhere (and I wouldn't have been able to say). It turned out they were elsewhere, according to the news.
We started to walk, hands on heads, inside a feeling of almost joy. That soon came to an end by THE vision of a NIGHTMARE. Tens of bodies, some at deaths door, a tide of blood in the pit. Awful. Horrible. I look at the place where I was standing before I sought cover towards the back and I can see numerous bodies. That easily could have been me.
I get out quickly, still had my hands on my head, seeing staff at the entrance of Bataclan lifeless on the floor (the 'fireworks' that we heard earlier were the terrorists coming in). A few steps down the pavement and I collapsed. A torrent of tears. I can't remember the last time I cried before tonight, but it's impossible to stop. I was shaking all over. A ringing in my ear. But I am alive.
Finally, we gathered together in cafes in the adjacent street, relieved to have got out, pulled out our phones to update people. And we learn of the 'rest', République, Stade de France, etc. How fucking tragic. All that, and for what?
I am not giving any essential information in this message, but it's cathartic. It's 'frustrating' to be in the heart of such an event and to be of no use, staying flat against the floor/a leg/arms, etc, for 2 to 3 hours and not helping.
- CygnusZero40
ISIS seems like a poor mans Al Qaeda. More like a bunch of punks picking fights. Theyre operating over there because they clearly dont have the means to pull anything large scale in the US, so they target the weaker countries like a bunch of punks. They likely dont have nearly the same kind of funding that Bin Laden provided, and since they are a smaller organization but more spread out than Al Qaeda was, theyll probably never be completely gone no matter what sort of response comes out of this, so this will likely just keep happening for many years/decades with them.
Doesnt take much to get 8 dudes to shoot hundreds of people in a packed city. But to pull off a plane heist requires far more. Seriously doubt a 9/11 will ever happen again. I just get the feeling like they will do some bombings on known ISIS targets, and theyll just still be hanging around doing their thing after all is said and done, pulling off these smaller attacks in countries less fortified than the US.
- D4W33D0
Sarkozy believes still be president and made a discour with codes of l'Élysée...
- georgesIII-3
like clockwork
- Yup! We all know that they were really white and devout God fearing Muricans.utopian
- conspiracy, false flag, lizard people, cu cu cachoo.shoes
- As usual GeorgesD4W33D
- ok, because it makes total sense for a well trained terrorist group to take their passport with them, it is totally logical, exactly like the last time,georgesIII
- So because they found a passport, that means France butchered their own people?yuekit
- Why don't you come out and say what you think happened instead of dropping these hints all the time, then we can at least consider it.yuekit
- I agree with Georges on the similarity with Charlie Hebdo, again he finds a passport next to a body. But can we say a conspiracy ?D4W33D
- It is strange to release this information to the press while there is still an active investigation.IRNlun6
- Question everything.iCanHazQBN
- sureshot0
shit is getting scary as fuck. Paris is only a 4 hour drive for me. besides we got a lot of extremists here too. Its creeping me out.
- Netherlands right? As you probably remember i used to live in A'dam and wondered all the time how it was actually so quiet somehow.oey
- Not near where I live (The Hague) its slowly becoming a getto. Like more big cities here. A'dam is super strict cause of the tourists visiting dailysureshot
- And Rotterdam?oey
- even worse. I work downtown.sureshot
- Get used to it there will be more and posting tricolors on facebook wont make any difference. Dystopia coming ? 2000AD magazine lolDillinger
- Continuity0
A lot of Berlin friends are beginning to wonder if all of this shit is going to be exported here.
Frankly, so do I. Makes me slightly less comfortable travelling the U-Bahn, or working/living in the centre of town.
- Fuck! You live in Berlin and I totally forgot! My girlfriend was there from Thursday till today and I was thinking sort of the same. I was supposed to go...oey
- ...to this party today but had to work till now and I'm totally tired. In case you're interested in some good music and techtools live drawing.oey
- I also would love to visit Georges!oey
- And to be honest I didn't went to Berlin for many reasons and one is that I actually feel uncomfortable to visit big cities and after yesterday...hm..oey
- yo, if you ever come to duss, let's totally meet upgeorgesIII
- I wonder this also.. but i think honestly France has a pretty loaded history when it comes to colonial past in the middle east aswell as its current militaryautoflavour
- involvement in Syria etc.. Berlin, while an obvious target I think has less appeal.. if only slightly. Germany isnt bombing Syria, its accepting refugees..autoflavour
- but yep, living in one of the largest european metropolises and also living pretty close to Mitte, it does freak me outautoflavour
