FUCK ADOBE!
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- NBQ00-1
Seriously, Adobe. This is the splash-screen for AI 2023?
- Going after that Canva market?nb
- You can hardly create anything more complex with the new versions ;)OBBTKN
- Hey! Yeah - that's a very cool illustrator who's work is very smart: Giacomo Bagnara https://www.instagra…shapesalad
- Been following him for a long while. Some great work in their portfolio.shapesalad
- His stuff is nice but not this particular splash screen.NBQ00
- slappy1
1) Will it though?
2) Why do we still have a designated drawing area?
- sted0
Adobe Wants Photoshop to Be More Like New Acquisition Figma
Photoshop, the company’s flagship image-editing product, will add more collaboration tools, artificial intelligence features and web capability as the creative giant aims to update its software portfolio for a younger and more-casual audience. Last month, Adobe announced it would buy Figma Inc. to try to capture some of the small businesses, social media creators and nonprofessionals who have flocked to the upstart maker of web-based design tools.
The updates introduced Tuesday at Adobe’s annual product conference symbolize the company’s efforts to streamline its offerings as smaller rivals like Figma and Canva Inc. threaten the software juggernaut’s market dominance. Adobe has responded with updates to its line of desktop creative tools and the introduction of a slimmed-down online Photoshop and Adobe Express, a web-based service that looks more like Canva than other Adobe products on the desktop.
- NBQ002
CC 2023 is out. I'm mostly excited about the AE update.
- The mattes thing is decentPhanLo
- And native H.264 render back, finally.NBQ00
- still using 2021 due to all the bugs in 2022... will wait a few months to see if it's also buggy...shapesalad
- Haven't opened Photoshop in months...grafician
- YESSS!!!Projectile
- The H264 will save about a day of my life next yeartoemaas
- Foundry NukeApeRobot
- garbage1
They peaked at CS6, and they don't need to admit it because they don't fucking care.
- their softwares are cs6 but with a load of bloat,novelty features and weird save options added.shapesalad
- CyBrainX0
I will never want a subfolder. Never have, never will. And to check this by default. Punches for 10 minutes.
- grafician4
- Nice. Surely in the useful thread?MrT
- Another $40 for a feature Adobe should be implementing for that sub you pay each month...shapesalad
- A liquify tool for the timeline. Interesting.CyBrainX
- Fuck Adobe but I like plugins so I can bloat the software in the way I choose ❤MrT
- DopeYakuZoku
- Super Nicerobthelad
- grafician1
- : https://twitter.com/…grafician
- for approximately $20 billion in cash and stock. well...at least they fought as hard as they could.uan
- I can't evengrafician
- NOOOOOOOOOOOChimp
- How long before they start to bloat it with useless stuff like 3D animation.Chimp
- More like they will introduce 2GB cloud and 7 day trial
or simply roll it into Adobe XDgrafician - Either way, RIP Figmagrafician
- Yay!Gnash
- RIP Macromediapablo28
- OH JUST FUCK OFF ADOBEhans_glib
- https://penpot.app/grafician
- awesomeoey_oey
- lolNBQ00
- So what about XD?NBQ00
- Fe, Fi, Fo, Fireworkskingsteven
- Fuckmort_
- Is it true Adobe got Figma AND Ligma?kingsteven
- So they will kill Figma, and push Adobe XD. Like they did with Freehand and Illy...shapesalad
- Kinda shocked Adobe (and Autodesk) have been able to buy up all competition. You'd think someone would be concerned with monopolies.formed
- that's what I was thinking formed_niko
- Don't worry, if its like their other products they won't change anything, just keep charging you for unspecified "updates"yuekit
- @formed it's the US, this wouldn't fly under EU rulesgrafician
- Sounds like they're moving resources away from XD and keeping the Figma team onaliastime
- :'(instrmntl
- Had to happen... Adobe had no answer for the biggest growth sector in Design for the last 10 years. Legitimate existential threat to Adobe.jonny_quest_lives
- ^ Like Facebook buying Instagram, so let's see who will be the new tiktok of the design worldgrafician
- 20 Billion is the new 100 millionNBQ00
- Figma. It's saying Sigma with a mouth full of dry cookies.stewart
- Adobe's new annual subscription will be increasing by 33%.utopian
- LOL stewartmonNom
- back to Sketch?shapesalad
- Honestly hate Creative Cloud, can't sync, won't sync, can't find files...oops I've deleted all your work, ffs!mrAtor
- buy out competition - collect the patents so noone can do better ideas - kill innovations - repeat.api
- https://twitter.com/…BonSeff
- nb1
Figma’s revenue this year was $81MM.
It still has steep growth trajectory, but nothing is certain in the world.
If revenue were to stay flat, it would take about 247 years to make back this $20B.
Note: I am aware that revenue isn’t profit, I am aware that growth is likely, I am aware that part of the $20B was paid in stock, I am aware that they may be trying to cull presumed losses.
Still, 247 years!!!
Adobe overpaid.
- Individually, investors are dumb. As a whole group, they generally are correct.nb
- More like a do-or-die situation for Adobe...
Exactly like when Facebook bought Instagram - existential threat.grafician - with any luck adobe will be forced to overreach themselves to sustain what is basically a pyramid scheme and will then implodehans_glib
- grafician-2
Stock went down 'cuz of the low performance, the Figma deal wasn't in the cards:
- Revenue and subscriptions were right as expected = no growth
Dropping $20B on Figma with low revenue (even if they had huge market share) was enough.grafician - Next Q gonna be a blood bath, start shorting now :))grafician
- A company that negotiates subscription fees over the phone basically bleeding money...
fuck'emgrafician
- Revenue and subscriptions were right as expected = no growth
- utopian2
Adobe shares plunge on deal to acquire design platform Figma for $20 billion
- sted0
https://www.figma.com/blog/a-new…
read this before throwing shit on adobe.
- The disclaimer part is greatdmay
- "Undue reliance should not be placed on these forward-looking statements"
FUCK OFF ADOBEhans_glib - How can they accelerate growth? Adobe is slow AF and Figma ships faster than anyone. What a bunch of horseshitnb
- "accelerate growth" = investors need to be paid fastgrafician
- accelerate growth = accelerate cost increase to the customerChimp
- dmay0
From the email from Adobe:
"While we have been reducing our investment in XD, we will continue to support it. We are excited about Figma's vision for the future of product design and the potential of our teams coming together to benefit our customers"
Apparently XD will get axed
- i_monk2
- This is now the default save option in Illustrator.i_monk
- a simple do not show this prompt again toggle in the UI but nooo Adobe wants your creative on their servers... FU I need to work locally.jonny_quest_lives
- they want users to save their files on the cloud so they can scrub the images so Adobe's AI image algorithms get better... Prove me wrongjonny_quest_lives
- it's just convenient...you can switch in preferences file handling if you prefer old school (at least in ps)uan
- Just set default location thanks! Still think there should be a set default dialog on that window so you can be done with it there.jonny_quest_lives
- I would NEVER trust anyone with my files on their server but I've been able to get adobe to stop asking me to save to cloud. There's a Don't ask again option.CyBrainX
- i_monk3
- Pantone shooting themselves in the fucking foot again... No Adobe No Pantone... Let's fuck with the one software suite that actually implements our product.jonny_quest_lives
- fucking morons... then again the people that actually understand a pantone color is just a reference point for the printer and u need to mix a specialty ink andjonny_quest_lives
- run an extra color on press to get your "pantone color" which isn't really a "pantone ink" but just a color matched pigment your print vendor mixed to match thejonny_quest_lives
- Pantone the creative team selected from an 8 year old Pantone book are all retiring or quitting anyway so fuck it... Rip out the Pantone Libraries.jonny_quest_lives
- Let;s get our users to save their creative on our cloud so our AI team can scrub it for or Neural Filter offerings for 2025 when we really wow our user basejonny_quest_lives
- sab6
Fuggin Adobe and Pantone! Just saw a notice in InDesign pop up stating "Some Pantone colours may no longer be available due to changes in Pantone’s licensing with Adobe".
Apparently we now need to fork out an extra $60 a year (to Pantone) to fuggin access the Pantone colour library in Adobe products.
Further info says... "Pantone’s licensing with Adobe was adjusted. Due to this change, customers will need to purchase Pantone Connect licenses to access Pantone colors in Adobe Creative Cloud products."
Wow! Fugg those khents!
- How was that a good decision for Pantone and Adobe? Surly it was in both parties interest to come to an agreement.shapesalad
- so if we have the Pantone swatches IRL we can't pick colors 'cuz Adobe CS doesn't have the colors anymore?!
Unrealgrafician - Wut? Just make a spot colour swatch, call it whatever it is in the book and the printer will do itsausages
- that's a DTP hack, not a "feature" in 2022 in the main apps for fucking design
Adobe is openly adversarial to its users now!grafician - Not a hack. If you spec your Pantones from Adobe swatches on screen and not a book you're doing it wrong.sausages
- LOL
And I suppose Adobe isn't reducing its pricing by 60/yr to compensate? Fuck them.Continuity - ^ this ofcgrafician
- Yeah, this is shit. Hard to believe it's not entirely megaCorp Adobe's fault, although given how much Pantone branding I'm seeing on landfill tchotchke...Nairn
- ...perhaps Pantone's business model's fairly fucked. Quite why there isn't a viable OS equivalent for coordinated colour specs, I don't know.Nairn
- CyBrainX0
After Effects - Dependencies - Collect Files
You'll get what you need, although adding in the fonts would be nice. Quark Express did it 30 years ago.The real problem is even if you check the Selected Comps option, you know you're going to get tons of crap you never asked for.
- I've spent so much time going through the project folders and saying saying, "No. I didn't want you.", then doing the same with the footage folder on my drive.CyBrainX
- reduce project first. be careful to save separately to keep your original.shapesalad
- You select the comps you want to keep - reduce project. Save As. Then do a collect files. Font Book - grab font. Send to co-worker.shapesalad
- I think they don't bundle fonts to avoid licensing issues; The engine that deals with font DRM in ID, Acrobat, AI, etc. isn't in AE.evilpeacock
- SimonFFM4
The whole saving process in Photoshop is so odd now:
Save, Save as, Save a copy, Quick export, Quick export as, Export for web, ...
Save as JPG is not possible anymore when there are layers (it used to ask if ok to flatten in the past).
Also I recently get a "Save to cloud" screen first, even though I just want to save locally.
Is Adobe reading this thread?
- affinity photo, just sayinghans_glib
- I really miss Photoshop, if I'm honest. Affinity's useful enough, but there are so many things PS Just Does Better. That said, fuck Adobe.Nairn
- And as Not Great as Designer is, it's utterly unusable for my work as it doesn't handle stroke thicknesses under 0.1pt or something. Useless.Nairn
- And also asset export with its own set of separate conventions. And then legacy output modes. So weird.monospaced
- This is a good point. They really should have one export window with tabs for GIFs, PDFs, layer comps to images, PNGs, etc. All of it.CyBrainX
- Never save, use iPhone to photograph your artwork from the monitor, clients so far haven't noticed. Keep computer running 24/7 and all projects open.shapesalad
- better yet just do a screen capture. Use any free software, and don’t mind how it compresses, nobody will notice.monospaced
- this never made sense to me. I get the idea that "export" is for files other than .psd files and that's what adobe nominally considers as "saving" but that's socherub
- some marketing douche's wet dream. nobody fucking cares adobe. just use the word "save" and drop all the dorky "export" talk.cherub
- They need more options: 'Save export as', 'Slow save mode', 'Export and save a copy', 'Quick save as an export' 'copy as an export' 'save export and copy'shapesalad
- even the most fanatical adobe fanboy has at least heard of non-adobe programs even if they don't use them.cherub
- it should just be save, save as, export. all streamlined, optimised, fast, great ui.shapesalad
- It's the result of too much legacy stacking; e.g. PS can't get rid of "Save for Web..." because it's still the only way to do some things (animated GIF).evilpeacock
- You can change the settings back to a legacy version. That's what I did and it's all fine. But yeah, it's stupid.formed
- I still save for web for most shit.monospaced
- With save as and export as a 500x400px JPG resulted at 20mb. Really time some Adobe dude checks on this.SimonFFM
