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- CygnusZero4-5
I dont believe black holes exist. At least not in the dumb sci-fi sense that scientists would have us believe, with them being holes or tunnels. I dont refuse to believe that.
The good thing for me is scientists literally can never prove me wrong.
- movies say holes/tunnels, science just says "a fuck load of gravity, that not even yurimons trolling can escape"moldero
- Reputable scientists don't claim they know what black holes are. Black holes have been observed however, of course pulling everything in...Kuuchuu
- ...but also pushing out a certain type of energy. This energy has been measured using various instruments.Kuuchuu
- NASA's opening line: Don't let the name fool you: a black hole is anything but empty space. Rather, it is a great amount of matter packed into a very small areaT-Dawg
- Replace the word 'scientists' with 'filmmakers' and this checks out.T-Dawg
- but scientists aren't promoting the sci-fi version that they're holes or tunnelsmonospaced
- black holes exist ... what happens inside them, and what they actually do, that's all subject to the data and evidence we can collect through math and observatimonospaced
- they're real. just go to blackholes.comsarahfailin
- I seen porn. There are some black holes.robthelad
- yurimon0
paging....
- Cool beans, seriously. I really hope he finds a way to show a connection and add to the growing body of human understanding.monospaced
- Personally, I would love for there to be a link between my "field of consciousness" and quantum mechanical fields. I hope he can someday show the connection.monospaced
- The idea is fascinating. The theory at this point seems quite rocky, though.monospaced
- Vodoutopian
- scarabin0
- I want to like this guy, but find him to be an arrogant asshat.utopian
- His head is in ultra fast flight. That's all I know about him. I like him.CyBrainX
- You looks like him, CyBrainXmonospaced
- Bill Nye? I've not seen much of him, but arrogant? Because he talks facts? Truth isn't arrogant.Luda
- If only my disembodied countenance could achieve warp speed...CyBrainX
- utopian0
Are We Alone? - An Odyssey Beyond The Limitations Of Science
Since the beginning of time, mankind has reached out beyond the ceaseless abyss achieving wonders. But the insidious question remains, “Why is there something rather than nothing?”. The universe appears the way it does by virtue of our presence as observers within it, but that makes the mind wonder, what else is out there? Are we alone?
- yuekit1
A team of Chinese scientists will be the first in the world to apply the revolutionary gene-editing technique known as Crispr on human subjects.
- This stuff is amazing...will change science and medicine during our lifetimes.yuekit
- Agreed. Huge for human tech. Let's hope it isn't demonized by ignorant moronsmonospaced
- One of the most potentially dangerous technologies we've ever created, and barely a peep about it, because complex. Will be interesting to see what happens.detritus
- utopian0
11 Brain-Twisting Paradoxes
Paradoxes have been around since the time of Ancient Greeks & the credit of popularizing them goes to recent logicians. Using logic you can usually find a fatal flaw in the paradox which shows why the seemingly impossible is either possible or the entire paradox is built on flawed thinking. Can you all work out the problems in each of the 11 paradoxes shown here? If you do, post your solutions or the fallacies in the comments.
- uan1
- so they were right!
https://www.youtube.…_niko - ^ pretty muchmoldero
- so they were right!
- yurimon-7
- wrong threadmonospaced
- stop messing up your vibration.yurimon
- there is no vibration to mess up, so stop trying to troll the science thread with nonsensemonospaced
- What on earth do you mean there is no vibration? Listen to yourself man.set
- harmonics, everything is vibrating, do you even study bro?yurimon
- sounds like yuri is basing his science on a Beach Boys songmonospaced
- utopian6
A team of researchers using telescopes in space and on Earth announced a new haul of about 100 previously undiscovered alien planets on Monday.
104 newfound alien planets confirmed
The cosmic "treasure trove" was revealed using data from NASA's Kepler Space Telescope and other observatories on Earth, according to a statement from the Keck Observatory in Hawaii, which was one of the telescopes that helped corroborate the planetary discoveries.
These newly confirmed worlds will now be added to the approximately 3,300 planets we know of outside the solar system.
- STILL not a belief systemmonospaced
- keckekeksarahfailin
- What makes them "alien"yuekit
- Not in our solar system.monospaced
- scarabin5
Your brain does not process information, retrieve knowledge or store memories
https://aeon.co/essays/your-brai…
- amazing article, thanks for sharing!monospaced
- so my memory what i'm trying so hard to destroy in the past 33 years isn't in my brain. goodsted
- and what can Mr. Robert Epstein say about that I can still draw my grandfather who died in '95 without any reference photo?sted
- Or remember art pieces what i have only seen once?sted
- very cool! I was skeptical at first but it won me over.sarahfailin
- i think the point is that it does but not in the way we think it does ie like a computer_niko
- they reckon it's in them there cellsset
- @sted, it means that you are able to "recreate" that memory, which apparently is different from retrieving itmonospaced
- he seems to be positing that current metaphors fall far short of what actually happens, and that we still have a lot of understanding to doscarabin
- yeah, like 100 years more of understanding to domonospaced
- nice article. what was it about again?Fax_Benson
- @mono you are right and I misunderstood some part of the allegations... after the second reading it's much clearersted
- A lot of "what"s instead of "that"s in this note thread. It's making me punchy.set
- GeorgesII4
Has science gone too FAR???
I say FUCK yeah!!!After living more than a year with a wearable total artificial heart device, Stan Larkin, 25, returned to the University of Michigan Frankel Cardiovascular Center for a heart transplant.
- utopian2
- cool but not footage. you can tell by the milky wave conveniently in the background for maximum effect.hotroddy
- (that's why it states "Animation" on it)monospaced
- you know an animation can consist of photographs or are you just being argumentative?hotroddy
- you do realize we can't get photos like this of an exploding star right? or are you just being argumentative?monospaced
- "caught best glimpse" means to me that we canhotroddy
- What you're seeing < there is an illustrated interpretation, not photos or anything otherwise directly-imaged.detritus
- uan0
Simulation (Sim) Theory
- remember they used to think everything was mechanical because of their limit in consciousness https://farm5.static…yurimon
- That wasn't a limit on consciousness. Phrases like that have no meaning in the real world.monospaced
- yeah they have no meaning for materialist reductionists which is outdated science.yurimon
- then you really are a moronmonospaced
- sted0
Previously unknown fifth fundamental force of nature discovered
- is it a 5th force or they say its a 5th force because they cant make numbers fit?yurimon
- what are the first 4drgs
- gravity,weak strong forces or something with electromagnetism, been a while. need to revisit.yurimon
- but electric universe theory more or less everything is a by product of electromagnetism, including gravity.yurimon
- I know this is close to your heart, but there's a HUGE question mark hovering over this, so it's categorically NOT yet a fifth fundamental force!detritus
- this article is based on the discovery what was made in February, and today they released some papers to help US scientists to recreate the dark force :)sted
- don't try this at home:
http://journals.aps.… :)sted
- scarabin1
http://journal.sjdm.org/15/15923…
A paper that some may find scientifically illuminating: "On the reception and detection of pseudo-profound bullshit"
The paper gives a working definition of bullshit, details 4 experiments carried out on the ability of participants to detect pseudo-profound statements (i.e "Wholeness quiets infinite phenomena" or anything from Deepak Chopra's twitter feed), as well as how receptive participants were to accepting such pseudo-profundities, and based on this data, gives an interpretation as to what mechanisms underlie a person's ability to detect bullshit, or conversely, accept it as truth. The study finds that people who ascribe profundity to bullshit statements are more likely to believe in the paranormal, more likely to accept conspiracy theories, and more likely to endorse alternative medicines.- ugh I was hoping it was a science paper. kinda of a survey.yurimon
- were you in it?drgs
- A survey is scientific.monospaced
- Survey is mostly political. they set the desired parameters. You could do this with any group you want to target.yurimon
- I was hoping this would disprove something scientifically. real science.yurimon
- of course yurimon is defending bullshitscarabin
- a political poll is still data, yurimon, and data is the basis of any scientific approach. derpmonospaced
- You can label parameters any way you wish in data collection. I would love real scientific on biased research not a survey to disprove, big difference.yurimon
- Not exactly. You can interpret data in different ways to show a preconceived bias, but the data itself is inherently unbiased.monospaced
- not if you start with bias in the parameters. If it started with first disproving the actual parameters with solid science, or proof. not thesis, or theories.yurimon
- this survey just basically shows peoples preference, its as scientific as netflix recommending you movies.yurimon
- you're making very vague, sweeping statements that make you look like you haven't even read the article. read it and cite specific flaws in their method.scarabin
- if you feel there are biases, point out specific examples. if you feel they are interpreting the gathered data incorrectly, cite specific examples.scarabin
- right now you're just making knee-jerk, emotional statements based on a feeling of being threatened.scarabin
- I read the paper. I'll post it for you. I didnt highlight what I thought was wrong so I'll reread it for you. ok give me few.yurimon
- I think what yurimon is saying is that those statements aren't bullshit in the first place. He actually considers it profound, and sees a bias in calling it bsmonospaced
- if that's the case, then we really shouldn't be discussing this with himmonospaced
- I'm not accusing the issue as bs. My question is a challenge of understanding, not only mine but all of yours. That is why I am asking what would be the basisyurimon
- of you supporting bernies solutions or anybody elses in this issue. what is the history of this in fact to lead to current crisis. its not an over night thing.yurimon
- oops wrong thread. hahahayurimon
- No what I got out of the paper is that they laid a ground work of parameters of what they consider bullshit. they described what they think is bullshit asideyurimon
- random generated messages. its doesnt disprove paranormal activity with science like i was hoping. they just said if you believe this your more likely to believyurimon
- this idea.yurimon
- its a fucken survey.yurimon
- so yeah, you're right mono. he's literally defending the bullshit itself. lol.scarabin
- cats, defined as not cool. Dogs defined as cool.
q: do you have a cat? a: yes
q: do live alone a: yesyurimon - conclusion, people who live alone are likely to be not cool.yurimon
- conclusion, yurimon believes the bullshitmonospaced
- I like how scientific the word truthiness is. lol good job science report, for using a term claimed to be coined by Stephen Colbert.yurimon
- maybe this more of reading comprehension test. slash survey.yurimon
- your inability to comprehend humor is another matter entirelyscarabin
- Im engaged in humor by entertaining the verisimilitude in the structural accumulation of words inputted and displayed on this device.yurimon
- it is only logical that I engage in successive, rhythmic, spasmodic expiration.yurimon
- that's grossscarabin
- http://img.pandawhal…scarabin
- still waiting for the analysis, yuri, where you show the biases in the test parameters, and your explanation on how theses and theories aren't part of sciencemonospaced
- monospaced0
Meanwhile ... the U.S government is throwing $100 million at figuring out how to reverse engineer the brain.
- we don't need to copy it to make something that works. human brain has its biological limitations, its all fluids etc, which we do not need to cover over to AIdrgs
- more importantly, there might not be any algorithm at all in the brain to be found (see previous post) in the first placemonospaced
- for simple propagation networks we already have something that outperforms human vision, and its based on copying abstraction by layers in the braindrgs
- https://upload.wikim…
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http://www.cs.uwyo.e…drgs - yeah, recognition systems require tons of input to store and process and they're getting better, totally understood.monospaced
- the argument is that the brain doesn't necessarily do any of that (see previous post from scarabin). all quite interestingmonospaced
- I think this is all so fascinating, and I appreciate the discussion.monospaced
- the difference currently is that AI learning is supervised (or "labeled", ie you have one sample input and a corresponding target),and you learn the assosiationdrgs
- technically it means that in a NN you try to predict a target from input, than compute error versus real target, and propagate the error backward, top to bottomdrgs
- human brain learns the other way around, in unsupervised fashion, from bottom to top, ie. you start with recognizing some basic patterns on lower layersdrgs
- first couple of years of a baby's life is basically unsupervised learning, they can recognize and separate things from each other, but dont know what they aredrgs
- in fact if you look around you, 90% of crap around you -- you sort of have seen before, and can sort of describe with language, but you dont know what it isdrgs
- AI skip this "dark" knowledge, and are only trained to recognize a limited number of very specific thingsdrgs
- later in life babies only need to label (learn language) the things they are already familiar with, and then you can build up abstraction etcdrgs
- lack of abstraction = autismdrgs
- utopian2
'Not a scientist': Palin slams Bill Nye over global warming stance
The former Alaska governor, at a panel Thursday on Capitol Hill, ripped the TV star's credentials and accused him of intentionally using his stature to spread what she described as an alarmist agenda on global warming.
- She is the definition of dumbmoldero
- One thing about British politics in comparison is that, while they're all utter cunts, at least they are intelligent utter cunts.set
- the USA is race of the bumbling half witsset
- Can't believe anyone, especially politicians, ever considered her or listen to anything she says.monospaced
- so so dumbmoldero
- some comments on that article are goldmicrokorg
